What kind of bug is this

[J Miller]

Yesterday I went out front to get the mail and was stunned.
Apparently we have some sort of bug infestation and these bugs are killing the tree on the corner of the house. Anybody here know what these are? Pics of the bugs and the tree to show the damage
The first time I was able to get a pic of these bugs was on the water bottle that is outside for the community kitties.

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Does anybody know what these are and how to get rid of them?

[GunnyMack]

Never seen that before- I'd get in touch with your local extension office/ horticulture folks.

[jeepnik]

Possibly a pine beetle. If so let your Dept of Ag know. I watched a healthy douglas fir die in a very short time. They have killed hundreds of thousands of tress in our local forests.

[harry]

We had them in our cedar trees in OK.
https://homeguides.sfgate.com/worm-coco ... 71471.html

[Blaine]

That one on the blue water dish is crawling out of it's...cocoon? It's a moth/butterfly of some kind would be my guess.

[765x53]

Bagworms. Malathion will take care of them. They will be back every year.

[J Miller]

Thanks for the info. We have some Seven spray, would that work? So far only one bush is infested, and this is the first time this has happened in the 4 years we've been here.
Icky bugs.


joe

[Tycer]

Thanks for the info. We have some Seven spray, would that work? So far only one bush is infested, and this is the first time this has happened in the 4 years we've been here.
Icky bugs.


joe

https://hortnews.extension.iastate.edu/ ... gworm.html

[AJMD429]

Birds will eat them, but not if you spray them. Then the birds get sick and you lose your natural control that keeps them in check. We usually clip the easy to reach ones and toss them to the chickens, but since we quit spraying the birds take care of them so we hardly see any. The other fun thing you can occasionally see is if you have enough daisies and other asters in your garden there will be a type of stingless wasp attracted that lays eggs inside the little pests and the eggs hatch and eat the bagworms.. ...but not if you have used insecticide; it would kill the good guys as well as the bad guys.

There is a product called Thuricide that wouldn't harm the predators that eat bagworms. It is a bacterial spore that kills certain insects. We paid about 8 bucks for a bottle several years ago but we're using it on tomatoworms. Worked well.

[FWiedner]

Bagworms are insidious.

Poison the little bastids before they kill everything.

[J Miller]

Birds will eat them, but not if you spray them. Then the birds get sick and you lose your natural control that keeps them in check. We usually clip the easy to reach ones and toss them to the chickens, but since we quit spraying the birds take care of them so we hardly see any. The other fun thing you can occasionally see is if you have enough daisies and other asters in your garden there will be a type of stingless wasp attracted that lays eggs inside the little pests and the eggs hatch and eat the bagworms.. ...but not if you have used insecticide; it would kill the good guys as well as the bad guys.

There is a product called Thuricide that wouldn't harm the predators that eat bagworms. It is a bacterial spore that kills certain insects. We paid about 8 bucks for a bottle several years ago but we're using it on tomatoworms. Worked well.

AJ,

That makes sense, and coincidentally answers a question. The last 4 years we have had birds all over this place, especially in the trees the bag worms are in. This year, no birds and lots of worms. I wonder why no birds?

I'll bet FT Wayne Animal Control banned them. This is the most animal hating city I've ever lived in. Even the coons and possums are missing this year.

Joe

[J Miller]

Bagworms are insidious.

Poison the little bastids before they kill everything.

Since there seems to be no birds this year looks like we'll have to.

Joe

[Batman1939]

As Doc has pointed out, poisons have secondary consequences. Poisoning insects may kill birds, which allows more insects to proliferate


There are alternative means of "biological control".

[Blaine]

As Doc has pointed out, poisons have secondary consequences. Poisoning insects may kill birds, which allows more insects to proliferate


There are alternative means of "biological control".

Find an overflowing outside ashtray and round up all the butts you can find...soak them in a pint water over night. Spray. The nicotine water will kill most bugs.

[J Miller]

As Doc has pointed out, poisons have secondary consequences. Poisoning insects may kill birds, which allows more insects to proliferate


There are alternative means of "biological control".

Find an overflowing outside ashtray and round up all the butts you can find...soak them in a pint water over night. Spray. The nicotine water will kill most bugs.

That would be great but we don't know anyone that smokes. If we started collecting butts in this neighborhood, most of them would probably be mary jane.

[GunnyMack]

Go buy a tin of snuff, make up the nicotine concoction and have at it!

[Blaine]

As Doc has pointed out, poisons have secondary consequences. Poisoning insects may kill birds, which allows more insects to proliferate


There are alternative means of "biological control".

Find an overflowing outside ashtray and round up all the butts you can find...soak them in a pint water over night. Spray. The nicotine water will kill most bugs.

That would be great but we don't know anyone that smokes. If we started collecting butts in this neighborhood, most of them would probably be mary jane.

Come on, Joe ....Where do people want to smoke when they drink, but can't do it inside? You can pay 8 bucks for a can or pouch of dip if you want.

[J Miller]

Blaine,

We don't smoke, we don't frequent places where people do smoke, and I won't throw away money on worm dirt.

I'm not a tree hugger and there have been no birds around eating the worms this year.

We had a jug of Seven spray and they got hosed.

Joe

[GunnyMack]

I wonder if NEEM oil would work? It's all natural. My yard is fungus gnats galore, just bought some NEEM oil and I'm going to try and wipe these suckers out. Just miserable PITA creatures!!