Winchester 94 .30-30 with light loads
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Winchester 94 .30-30 with light loads
I took my Model 94 out yesterday with the 110 grain Speer LRN bullets and 30.0 grains of Reloader 7, which is on the very low end of that load. It shot high, to be expected and when I finally got a decent 6 o'clock hold figured out, it shot some pretty wide groups and to the left. Compare that to the 170 grain loads, both shot at 25 yards and then out to 125 grain yards with the 170 grain loads. My guess is the 110 grain bullets are too light and are moving too fast for the rifling to really stabilize them.
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Re: Winchester 94 .30-30 with light loads
I have used the Lyman 3118 over five grains of Red Dot. About 5/8ths at 50 and 1 1/2 at 100. They run at about 1220 fps.
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Re: Winchester 94 .30-30 with light loads
I'm assuming a Speer LRN is not a lead bullet but a jacketed bullet? Because a lead bullet might not even stay on the paper at that velocity level.
I load a 30 carbine 110 grain roundnose jacketed bullet occasionally. From my notes, accuracy improved dramatically as I went up from 30 grains to 32 grains of RL7. You might try that.
I load a 30 carbine 110 grain roundnose jacketed bullet occasionally. From my notes, accuracy improved dramatically as I went up from 30 grains to 32 grains of RL7. You might try that.
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Re: Winchester 94 .30-30 with light loads
Whoa! I didn't realize Speer made a Lead Round Nose bullet but have since been educated. So belay my "a little more RL-7" advice. I am most impressed that bullet even stayed on the paper at your velocity somewhere in the vicinity of 2400 fps.
That soft lead bullet is built for about half that velocity. I'd guess Catshooter's load suggestion would get you muuuuch better results. And be real fun to shoot.
That soft lead bullet is built for about half that velocity. I'd guess Catshooter's load suggestion would get you muuuuch better results. And be real fun to shoot.
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Re: Winchester 94 .30-30 with light loads
Isn't that 110 half jacket the bullet they sold for the 30 carbine, think they called it the Plinker?
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Re: Winchester 94 .30-30 with light loads
That's the one -- back when I was just starting reloading and didn't have a powder measure I shot a bunch of those Speer plinkers. I could pour the case almost full of 3031 and seat my plinker on top and have quite the zippy little shooter. Made some lucky shots with that combo -- running jack rabbits, flying magpies -- young eyes and faster reflexes.
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Re: Winchester 94 .30-30 with light loads
I thought so! Yes I used to send them outta my 06 at prairie dogs. Zippy for sure!
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Re: Winchester 94 .30-30 with light loads
I've been experimenting with some .311 muzzle loader balls seated atop 30 WCF case with 4 grains of Unique. The balls weigh about 42 grains so I've more or less duplicated a 22lr load. At 30 yards I get a 2 inch group.
I previously tried similar experiments with #0 buck shot but accuracy was erratic due to irregularity of the buck shot. Not too erratic for plinking just too erratic for small game hunting.
I'm going to try some 2400 next and see if I can get better groups. I think the low volume of powder in the case is detrimental to consistent pressure curves and maybe a little bulkier powder will help.
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I previously tried similar experiments with #0 buck shot but accuracy was erratic due to irregularity of the buck shot. Not too erratic for plinking just too erratic for small game hunting.
I'm going to try some 2400 next and see if I can get better groups. I think the low volume of powder in the case is detrimental to consistent pressure curves and maybe a little bulkier powder will help.
Maybe TrailBoss is the ultimate answer...… It is kind of a ongoing experiment in which the pursuit of data & the act of research is the goal rather then a conclusive answer.
Re: Winchester 94 .30-30 with light loads
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Re: Winchester 94 .30-30 with light loads
I like the Speer Plinkers in a .308 carbine for a barn yard load. The lead is so soft those bullets all but disintegrate nearly eliminating the chance for a ricochet (though not completely negating it). Havent gotten around to loading them in anything else but a .30-30 and a .30-40 are both on my short list.