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The range time the other day with the Glenfield reminded me that I've been neglecting my leverguns.
Out dodging rainstorms once again but had a blast with a Pedersoli Sharps and Miroku 1886.
It was the first time out with the '86, though I've had it since November. It really didn't like the 300 gr. bullets I had along, I couldn't get better than a 3-4" group. Need to work with that one a bit more. I did, however go through three boxes of shells with the Sharps. That thing is just plain fun to shoot! The sights are awful and I'm thinking I might do a re-work. Something like the old Officer's Model Trapdoors. A tang sight and a globe style front sight.
The targe on the left is with Cast Performance 405 WFNGC bullets and 48 gr. of Varget. The right target is a 300 gr LHP over 12 gr of Unique. This was POA for the Sharps with the very basic rear sight, holding dead senter of the target. The left target was a six o'clock hold on the orange dot.
jb
jasonB " Another Dirty Yankee"
" Tomorrow the sun will rise. Who knows what the tide could bring?"
A couple of very nice rifles, Jason. I have a Pedersoli Sharps to "get dirty" as well, but a post-cataract surgery complication has temporarily rendered the dead center of the lens in my right eye as virtually worthless for shooting. Should clear up in a few weeks.
"The sights are awful and I'm thinking I might do a re-work. Something like the old Officer's Model Trapdoors. A tang sight and a globe style front sight. "
I really like a Tang-and-Globe setup on a 'target' levergun.
For regular 'hunting' I prefer the ghost-ring effect of an apertureless Williams Foolproof rear and either a 1/16" Lyman gold bead or yellow Williams FireSight front, and for just totin' or woodswalking I like a Marbles Bullseye rear and blade front because it is so fast to acquire but an extra second allows the inner aperture to be used for more precision.
Great to see the 45-70 beasts get a workout....!
It's 2025 - "Cutesy Time is OVER....!" [Dan Bongino]
M. M. Wright wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:28 pm
And you had FUN!
Man, did I !! What a blast!
Nath,
In my world, BP is for my muzzle loaders. I did the BPCR stuff years ago and I'm just not into it. Last thing I want to do is clean out an '86 or Sharps all day long.
There's a reason someone invented Smokeless!
By the way, I'll be out with my .58 Musketoon next week.
jb
jasonB " Another Dirty Yankee"
" Tomorrow the sun will rise. Who knows what the tide could bring?"
Every gun I have had was different as to what it liked. That made it interesting to come up with the right load. When I found the right load, each rifle became much more accurate.
D. Brian Casady
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2ndovc wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:54 pm
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By the way, I'll be out with my .58 Musketoon next week.
jb
We are waiting for the range report....
In my opinion that configuration of the enfield is as good a deer slayer (or bigger) as anything made.
Pros:
Relatively light and compact.
Quick pointing.
Good sight picture.
Easy loading with the greener/minie slip-fit expansive bullet design.
Cons:
The metallic noise of sling swivels and buttplate and rammer can alert game. Any original or replica martial musket can make creaking and clinking noises in the woods.
Sometimes super-high sight regulation can be a problem.
Each gun is a law into itself on preferred loads.....We have been led to believe that 60 to 70 grs. of ff under any design hollow base bullet will shoot good and load all day long without swabbing but that hasn't been my experience.....I have had to load as little as 40 gr. under the old style lyman lighter weight and thinner skirted minie to get my .58s to group well.....
Absolutely.
Some find the thin skirts blow out just exiting the muzzle.
Some add grease to the base of the slug or machine the mold,
Some find the thin skirts blow out just exiting the muzzle.
Some add grease to the base of the slug or machine the mold,
Jason, whimpish excuses
N."
and ray's response:
Or forget the minie altogether and try my musketoon load of 5 c.c. of FF under a .125" card wad under 3 c.c. of farina under t w o .020" patched .562" balls.....
Yep, double balling works great in most front stuffers.
Looks like the Miroku Winchester 1886 Extra Light I owned for a short while.
Sold it in favor of a Marlin 1895GS that was a lot slicker, more accurate & 1/2 the money.
The lawyered up Winchesters will never be as smooth & slick as the original Winchester 1886s and I want smooth for that kind of money.
I own an original Winchester ‘71 and there is no comparison.
Way too many UNNECESSARY parts in that Miroku.
If Winchester ever makes another ‘blueprint’ JMB 1886 EL I might buy one.
pricedo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:41 pm
Looks like the Miroku Winchester 1886 Extra Light I owned for a short while.
Sold it in favor of a Marlin 1895GS that was a lot slicker, more accurate & 1/2 the money.
The lawyered up Winchesters will never be as smooth & slick as the original Winchester 1886s and I want smooth for that kind of money.
I own an original Winchester ‘71 and there is no comparison.
Way too many UNNECESSARY parts in that Miroku.
If Winchester ever makes another ‘blueprint’ JMB 1886 EL I might buy one.
I'm with you there. I have a Marlin LTDIII that will shoot one big ragged hole at 50 yds. all day long. I'm going to get it out with some 405's just for kicks butI'm not holding my breath. I picked it up at a show for $700 and figure I can make a couple bucks on it if I decide to send it on it's way.
jb
jasonB " Another Dirty Yankee"
" Tomorrow the sun will rise. Who knows what the tide could bring?"
pricedo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:41 pm
Looks like the Miroku Winchester 1886 Extra Light I owned for a short while.
Sold it in favor of a Marlin 1895GS that was a lot slicker, more accurate & 1/2 the money.
The lawyered up Winchesters will never be as smooth & slick as the original Winchester 1886s and I want smooth for that kind of money.
I own an original Winchester ‘71 and there is no comparison.
Way too many UNNECESSARY parts in that Miroku.
If Winchester ever makes another ‘blueprint’ JMB 1886 EL I might buy one.
I couldn't agree less. My Miroku 1895's and my Miroku '92 are all slicker than my Winchester 71, even the Miroku 71 is slicker than the Winchesters I've handled. That's saying a lot if a new gun is slicker than one that is 70 years old. Maybe I've had back luck but Marlin's have never impressed me much, my old JM stamped .45-70 was alright but nowhere near the class of the Miroku's (of course it was less than half the price so I didn't expect it to be). The new 336Y has had a lot of internal smoothing up and it's nowhere near what it should be.
