I am getting brittle

Hillbilly · Post by **Hillbilly** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:42 pm

got kicked by a horse Tuesday afternoon.

Nice square tap to the lower leg about 6 inches above the ankle.
I got a pretty good look as I was falling over... the foot was pointing like the hinge was on sideways...

Took a 40 mile ride in a Fire service ambulance. OKC has the nearest level 2 trauma unit.. good call. I would have ended up there after waiting the night at the local hospital. The FD cant carry narcotics so I took the ride sober as a judge.

Got looked over.. x rayed etc. OF course a student nurse was there... 40 minutes and 3 busted trys she finally gave up and the RN put an IV port in my elbow, the got 4 units of morphine in the line.

Doc came in .. asked wife to leave the room and reduced the dislocated Tibia by hand... I was still pretty straight and the sensation is not to be beleived. The little bone was broken and only the least bit of skin was holding it in.

I guess I will be laid up for 9 weeks or so.

You guys be sure to put up some nice pictures and stuff I are bored already.

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:52 pm

Hillbilly wrote:the foot was pointing like the hinge was on sideways...

Yikes, that's never a good sight...

If we don't post pics of stuff are you going to be "hopping mad"?;)

Best wishes! Been laid up with a busted ankle before. No fun and you're right, it gets boring.

Jaguarundi · Post by **Jaguarundi** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:54 pm

Sorry to hear.

Well as you are recoup'n.........

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:00 pm

so sorry to hear that. wishing you a fast recovery. blessings.

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:05 pm

Going to N.M. in the morning,I WILL take the camera this time, pictures forthcoming

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:23 pm

Well I reckon we are going to have to go in and buy you some shin guards

Heal quick

2ndovc · Post by **2ndovc** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:30 pm

"Owich!" To quote Bugs Bunny.

My ex's T-bred took a shot at my head one day. Couldn't have missd by more that a 1/4". good thing I wasn't packn' that day. Always hated that animal. Chased him around the pasture for about 20 min. he knew he was in for it.

Heal well and don't rush it. Broken bones are a pain in the rear but you don't want to have to have it reset! Even worse.

gunslinger598 · Post by **gunslinger598** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:57 pm

I've had a few close calls this past week with horses my own self.

I'm glad to say close calls.

Hope ya heal fast.

WCF3030 · Post by **WCF3030** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:06 pm

I hope you heal soon.
I'll try and post some pics for ya.

stretch · Post by **stretch** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:35 pm

Heal fast.

You ought to miss some summer chores

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but ought to be all right for deer season in the fall

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Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:56 pm

Heal well friend.

RIHMFIRE · Post by **RIHMFIRE** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:07 pm

did you kick the horse back?
best wishes and speedy recovery

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:15 pm

I'll have to keep that no narcotics thing in the back of my mind. I wonder if they could fit one of those things in the local beverage barn? How about if I buy a round all around? I'm not a drinker but something would have to be better than nothing.

Paul told Timothy to have a little wine for his stomach's sake.

LeverBob · Post by **LeverBob** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:00 pm

Those dang knotheads...they'll cowkick you just to be ornery. Never trust any horse...how people get all squishy & sentimental is beyond me, must be because the've never been labeled good by some ornery nag. The dang things will step on you foot if your not careful & then just stand there snickering. You stand there too until the cayuse gets it in their mind to let you go. Just a little reminder of who is really boss...if'n you let them.

I hope you feel better Hoss...take it easy until the bone knits...and watch out...never let your guard down. Stay on yellow alert...they'll mug you if you give them half a chance.

Hate to hear of my bros. gettin' hurt...

LeverBob

JReed · Post by **JReed** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:44 pm

OOCH! That is a crappy place to have a break.Broke my Tibia in close to the same place

They hooked me up with a full leg cast for 6 weeks with an at the time 9 months pregnant wife. I feel your pain heal well.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:02 am

Get well soon Hillbilly.

marlin shooter · Post by **marlin shooter** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:26 am

Sorry to hear of your bad luck with a horse. I have to admit to being afraid of horses as my Grangfather got kicked in the head by 1 when he was 14. He had a pretty good divot in his forehead and it made a lasting impression on me when young. My wife's little cousin (9) got thrown and dragged by her horse. Her head hit the fence and killed her. I was reading some old newspaper account's from the turn of the century and could not believe the amount of injurie's to logger's and everyone who worked with horses, shattered hip's, knee's etc. I have a honda 4 wheeler and feel completely safe around it

. Hope you mend quickly and stay safe.
Karl

Ram Hammer · Post by **Ram Hammer** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:56 am

Get well soon!

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:02 am

Heal fast and well!

BenT · Post by **BenT** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:25 am

You won't be getting back in the saddle for awhile. Your might as well spend you time healing shooting and reloading.

20cows · Post by **20cows** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:31 am

I hope you like crutches! I was on 'em for six months. I don't usually set off metal detectors, but the potential is there.

Good luck and do what the doc says (or you might break a bolt off in your leg).

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:35 am

Early on the biggest risk is infection, especially in that thin-skin area with notoriously poor circulation. Usually they'll put you on at least a short course of intense antibiotics - a solid blast for 2-3 days may avoid 4-6 weeks of home IV's later.

Then it's just healing time! Eat lots of protein and keep good mineral intake (especially calcium but don't forget all the other 'trace' minerals) and vitamin D at least 1,000 units.

As you recover, when you're NOT walking, continue to sit 'like a teenager' with your leg/foot elevated HIGHER than your heart; sleep the same way. When you're not sitting, walk if possible, but don't just stand - too much venous blood pooling.

My only personal experience having a fracture from livestock was only a shattered big toe, but then it was only a 220 pound goat; not a ton of horse.

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:20 am

Hillbilly, make sure you talk to your doctor about some type of blood thinner/anti-coagulant. I've been involved with more than one person dying of a pulminary embolism due to massive hemmorhaging from a broken bone. And they weren't very old, 30-45. If it sounds scary, I mean it to. It's seriously nothing to mess with. I'm sure AJMD429 will agree (actually get a doctor's opinion).

KirkD · Post by **KirkD** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:44 am

I'm sorry to hear that. Ain't no picnic, that's for sure. I had a Quarter Horse back in my teen years that was fast, strong, excellent for cutting, but doggoned mean. He'd broken a few other people's bones but he and I had a more or less working relationship. I got drilled by him once, while making the stupid move of walking behind him while he was eating chop. He connected on the side of my thigh, half way between the knee and the hip and fired me up and back about 6 feet. My femur managed to hold, but I had the mother of all charlie horses and couldn't even to begin bending my leg for three days. I was durn-tootin' mad and heaved my empty metal 5-gallon pail at his backside for all I was worth, then hobbled the 450 yards back to the house. He was a real good horse once I was on him, but coming within range of his hind feet was a fool thing to do. Once I crossed that off my list of things to do, we got along fine and I used him for years after that. I just treated him like a loaded gun ... his backside was the muzzle and I always made sure it was pointed in a safe direction. Whenever he was put in with a herd of horses he'd really go to work with those hind feet. All the other horses learned right away to treat him like a loaded gun as well. The difference between me and them was that once I got my hands on him (which wasn't always very easy) he jolly well did what he was told and eventually learned to instantly obey spoken commands. Still, his backside was always loaded and cocked, ready to let go at any moment.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:21 pm

kimwcook wrote:Hillbilly, make sure you talk to your doctor about some type of blood thinner/anti-coagulant. I've been involved with more than one person dying of a pulminary embolism due to massive hemmorhaging from a broken bone. And they weren't very old, 30-45. If it sounds scary, I mean it to. It's seriously nothing to mess with. I'm sure AJMD429 will agree (actually get a doctor's opinion).

+1 on that; especially if you're not very mobile the first few days.

20cows · Post by **20cows** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:48 pm

Early on the biggest risk is infection...

Yep. One of the bolts I had was to be removed (it's the one that broke, so I still "have" part of it). Where the doc opened me up for bolt extraction got infected and was a considerable source of irritation.

Kirk, I was recently kicked just above the knee by my little red horse. I got in the wrong place as he was eating. I knew better.

I hobbled to the barn got a hoe handle and cripple chased him around the pen he was in and laid a couple of good ones on his backside. I then put down the hoe handle and he came over to me and we made up. I saddled him and rode for a couple of hours. Sitting in the saddle was the only position I could put the leg in that DIDN'T hurt for a week.

piller · Post by **piller** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:13 pm

It has been years since I had a broken leg, but what I remember is the ache after it had healed whenever I tried to do a lot of walking or running. Talk to your doctor about some Celebrex, Etodolac, diclofenac, or indomethacin for the ache while rehabilitating. These are all NSAIDs, and will help keep swelling and pain to a minimum. When you are walking again you will see what I mean. In the meantime, make friends with the nurses and they will see that you are given good care. If you make them mad, they can make life miserable. Don't be surprised if you need antibiotics for a long time. Prayers for healing sent.

Hillbilly · Post by **Hillbilly** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:16 pm

I read that most adults average 2 fractures per lifetime,
I guess I should be all caught up by know.

Shattered the first joint, 3rd finger a few years back. Playing softball... got plugged by a hit ball square on the end. Broke the bone under the fingernail... and split the joint on the second segment. I think it hurt worse than this did.

Missed a whole horse one day mounting. Swung the leg over whilst he was squirting out from under me. Landed on my back and busted one of those little processes (spur dealy) on a vertabrae. Finally went to the doc a couple of days later... I figured I broke a rib. I was back to work in 3 days

The horse is 14, he can be a little nerved up some times but no vices... not a kicker or biter. I wont keep a rank horse.
He was stomping to shoo a fly. I think I just got in the way.

Thanks for the advice... blood clots can sneak up with a injury like this too.

Jeff

Rod WMG · Post by **Rod WMG** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:37 pm

Well, I'll spare you the recounting of my injuries!

I figger anyone who's around horses much will have some wreck or problem related to them, some with long lasting consequences.

Here's hoping you heal fast and well.

Gryphon Black · Post by **Gryphon Black** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:07 am

Well, here's my two cents...

Was standing alongside somebody else's horse one day. Hadn't been told about the trick it liked to play. I was even with it's ribs, and when I was looking the other way it eased forward to get me in range. I looked back just in time, reaching out a hand toward its back, and saw i was suddenly a lot closer to it's back leg than I had been. Just then I felt the dropping weight shift and I sidestepped away just as the back leg came up. She popped me dead square on the hip joint, but as I had opened the distance and was still moving, she didn't hit me hard enough to break my hip. Just briused me up good.
Sneaky no 'count so and so, pulling a dirty trick like that!

Do what the physical therapists say. And yes, it's supposed to hurt. But at least you get to cuss nice and loud!

Gryphon

morgan in nm · Post by **morgan in nm** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:24 am

I got kicked pretty good last monday when I was trying to trim the feet of a belgium cross. I was going good until the dog decided to bark. The horse contacted on the top side of the arch which turned it black but now its almost all healed. I wanted to shoot the dog but he is a family pet.

Hope you get to feeling better.

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:42 am

I grew up with horses. We never had a problem with sneaky, kicking horses. I guarantee the wrath of dad would of cured any such behavior. I wouldn't keep a horse like that. I have two right now that the wife and I raised from yearlings and I think nothing about walking aorund them anywhere. Now I'll qualify that by saying if they're eating or there's a possibility of scaring them, I make sure they see me before I just walk up to their back side.

brucew44guns · Post by **brucew44guns** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:49 pm

Hillbilly, you rehearsed yet the serious talk you're going to have with that horse, when you get back on your feet? Imagine how many LBS per sq. inch that kick delivered on your poor old bones?

Hillbilly · Post by **Hillbilly** » Thu May 01, 2008 10:28 pm

going for a cast next Monday.

The drugs and meds taked during a surgery and recovery are hard on the body. I had morpine on demand 2 days in the hopital. I am still sweating the stink out from that. I guess I takes all the moisture out of the bowels too... Ya'all can take that for your own imaginations.

My boss was waffling on paying me (I am salaried). I told him that with computers, cell phones and e-mail I did not know why he wanted me to do office hours anyway. I guess this guy did not know that all the technology he pays for would let a guy like me be pretty productive from the recliner. After out pm phone call the other day I figured he was going to no pay me... I would have quit on the spot had he pushed it. This is a respect thing for me... I have an email from negoitiations that indicate I should take off every other Friday...like that happens. I did not play that card.. but that will come up soon.

Well fellas... got to rest up...Friday is shower day. Bathing is a chore in this condition!

Hill

20cows · Post by **20cows** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:13 am

Some adjustments are necessary.

I hope it goes well.

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Sat May 03, 2008 8:34 am

Hillbilly,
I have two books,
The Devils Brigade
Return to Inferno
Both are factual stories about German soldiers in the French Foreign Legion in Indochina
I will send them to you to read while you convalesce.
Both are out of print and worth their weight in gold you have to send them back.
PM me if you want to read them
Get well soon

Hillbilly · Post by **Hillbilly** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:22 pm

thanks for the book offer Mescalero.

I have upgraded to a cane. Been back in the office for a week and a half. Still in a velcro rigged cast.

thanks for the thoughts and prayers.

Jeff

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:07 pm

mescalero1 wrote:Hillbilly,
I have two books,
The Devils Brigade
Return to Inferno
Both are factual stories about German soldiers in the French Foreign Legion in Indochina

Two EXCELLENT books by the way! I understand there was a third volume as well but the name escapes me offhand.

Highjack over...

NonPCnraRN · Post by **NonPCnraRN** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:26 pm

piller wrote:It has been years since I had a broken leg, but what I remember is the ache after it had healed whenever I tried to do a lot of walking or running. Talk to your doctor about some Celebrex, Etodolac, diclofenac, or indomethacin for the ache while rehabilitating. These are all NSAIDs, and will help keep swelling and pain to a minimum. When you are walking again you will see what I mean. In the meantime, make friends with the nurses and they will see that you are given good care. If you make them mad, they can make life miserable. Don't be surprised if you need antibiotics for a long time. Prayers for healing sent.

NSAIDS are OK if you have normal kidney and heart function. I had a kidney transplant in 1970 and if I take NSAIDS I can taste the uremia in my mouth. I was on dialysis 9 hrs every other day and know the taste well 38 years later. Can we say Hydrocodone boys and girls? Wait till you've had both shoulders disintegrate and have to be rebuilt from scratch...Advil sucks! Actually a combination of Hydrocodone and an NSAID works wonders. You get better pain control with less of each than with 2x of one alone...if you can take NSAIDS.

Hillbilly · Post by **Hillbilly** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:34 pm

Those shoulder rebuilds sound tough... I could us a rotator cuff surgery but I will put it off forever if I can. The elbow doesnt work right either... throw a baseball a few gazillion times and it's bound to happen.
I throw like a girl now... a girl who isnt in a fast pitch leauge anyway.
At 49 I dont think the Cubs, Tigers or Red Sox still have my name in the rolodex anymore

Jeff

woods-walker · Post by **woods-walker** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:57 pm

Good luck and mend well ! I was spraying mine for flies this afternoon and was thinking how vulnerable I was as I worked my way around. Could happen to any of us.
Take care and glad to hear you came out OK.

Texican · Post by **Texican** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:36 pm

LeverBob wrote:Those dang knotheads...they'll cowkick you just to be ornery. Never trust any horse...how people get all squishy & sentimental is beyond me, must be because the've never been labeled good by some ornery nag. The dang things will step on you foot if your not careful & then just stand there snickering. You stand there too until the cayuse gets it in their mind to let you go. Just a little reminder of who is really boss...if'n you let them.

I hope you feel better Hoss...take it easy until the bone knits...and watch out...never let your guard down. Stay on yellow alert...they'll mug you if you give them half a chance.

Hate to hear of my bros. gettin' hurt...

LeverBob

Sounds like you've worked with horses before...

I've noticed there seem to be a range of opinions on horses. At one end of the spectrum is the 'dumb, malicious creatures that will find the only staple in the corral to hurt themselves on' and the other is the 'brilliant, noble animal that will lead its lost owner out of the wilderness on instinct alone'. They tend to be sort of like people in their range of personalities.

Hillbilly, best of luck to you in your recovery. You can smile knowing that you made us all cringe at your description of the event.

Wes · Post by **Wes** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:07 pm

Sorry to hear about your injury. You never know when your'e going to be the one riding in the ambulance do you? I've been around horses/cows/mules all my life and it never ceases to amaze me how many ways you can get hurt.
I average one good injury every ten years. This year I've been wiped out twice. This early spring I was out feeding cows as I do every day with my team of mules and had a cow moose spook them and in the runaway I got tossed over the front of the hayrack when we hit a ditch going full bore. Wagon ran over me (empty thank God) and broke a few ribs. Then last week I had the headstall come apart when I was riding a colt and had him runaway with no bit in his mouth and had to bail off. Tried not to land on the bad ribs but think I boogered them up again.
Neither one sounds as bad as that foot cranked out sideways. Man that had to hurt. It's a long way to a hospital here too and I can sympathize with your pain for that long of a trip. Hope you heal well and fast.

Travis Morgan · Post by **Travis Morgan** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:10 pm

piller wrote:It has been years since I had a broken leg, but what I remember is the ache after it had healed whenever I tried to do a lot of walking or running. Talk to your doctor about some Celebrex, Etodolac, diclofenac, or indomethacin for the ache while rehabilitating. These are all NSAIDs, and will help keep swelling and pain to a minimum. When you are walking again you will see what I mean. In the meantime, make friends with the nurses and they will see that you are given good care. If you make them mad, they can make life miserable. Don't be surprised if you need antibiotics for a long time. Prayers for healing sent.

Be careful with the anti-inflammatories if you chew, have an ulcer, or acid reflux. They're about as bad as taking bute. They'll eat the hell out of your stomach.

When I was riding colts for a dude outfit outside of Jackson Hole, we had this one little paint named Jeremy. You could touch him anywhere but on the butt. Sometimes, if one of us wanted to impress some tourist chick, we'd get on Jeremy, then turn half around and put a hand on his butt. He hump up and act like he was real bad for a little bit. One day, this kid that shoulda known better walked up behind Jeremy to catch the horse next to him, put hi had on Jeremy's butt, and got put out of comission for a coupla days.

He was a nasty little horse, and I really couldn't see why they kept him around a dude outfit.

octagon · Post by **octagon** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:01 am

I knew a nice Gal once with a similar injury.
She could dance circles around the other Gals.

Hillbilly · Post by **Hillbilly** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:53 am

Thanks for all the prayers wishes stories and advice.

Today I have real boots on...first time since April,29. So thats a red letter day for me.

Pt is ok... I started walking a mile or more daily. I drive one of the boys to town for football anyway and figured that rubber track needed some taxpayer to wear it out. Got the wife out too.
Once I stand the pounding I'd like to try a 5k this fall...got to have goals!

I sorta lost my appetite and lost about 30 pounds while I was laid up.

silly me..I am eyin my tack room and the big paint. Maybe in September?
~jeff

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:00 pm

Glad to hear things are turning out good for you Jeff. Keep up the PT.

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:55 pm

Glad to hear your on the road to recovery. And how did you lose weight while being laid up? I've had five shoulder surgeries in almost as many years and I didn't lose any weight. In fact I think I know where you lost your 30. You can have it back any time you want.

Hillbilly · Post by **Hillbilly** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:02 pm

I knew I would blow up off the scale while I was laid up. Cut out sugar, coffee and most low value food for a while. Plus, the pain meds killed my appetite... I did well to eat about 1/2 of 1 normal meal for several weeks.----per day.

Silver lining, eh? I aint complaining... in April I couldnt tie my shoes without taking a break.

Jeff

crawdaddyjim · Post by **crawdaddyjim** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:51 pm

Take it easy and enjoy the show. Now you know how Joe Theisman felt.

Had a horse as a kid, working horse named Paco Loco.. He earned it. His favorite trick was to wait till you were a little weary in the saddle and then he would turn and bite you on the shin. He tried to get meat if he could. Him and I had a understanding tho. I was the one who fed him. He did throw me over the front once. Claimed he saw a snake. I didn't land on no snake and didn't see no snake as I was gettin up. But he swore there was a snake. He went hungry that night.

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