POLITICS - So they arn't trying to take over??

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POLITICS - So they arn't trying to take over??

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7359258.stm
Muslim call to adopt Mecca time

By Magdi Abdelhadi
BBC Arab affairs analyst

Muslim scientists and clerics have called for the adoption of Mecca time to replace GMT, arguing that the Saudi city is the true centre of the Earth.

Mecca is the direction all Muslims face when they perform their daily prayers.

The call was issued at a conference held in the Gulf state of Qatar under the title: Mecca, the Centre of the Earth, Theory and Practice.

One geologist argued that unlike other longitudes, Mecca's was in perfect alignment to magnetic north.

He said the English had imposed GMT on the rest of the world by force when Britain was a big colonial power, and it was about time that changed.

Mecca watch

A prominent cleric, Sheikh Youssef al-Qaradawy, said modern science had at last provided evidence that Mecca was the true centre of the Earth; proof, he said, of the greatness of the Muslim "qibla" - the Arabic word for the direction Muslims turn to when they pray.

The meeting also reviewed what has been described as a Mecca watch, the brainchild of a French Muslim.

The watch is said to rotate anti-clockwise and is supposed to help Muslims determine the direction of Mecca from any point on Earth.

The meeting in Qatar is part of a popular trend in some Muslim societies of seeking to find Koranic precedents for modern science.

It is called "Ijaz al-Koran", which roughly translates as the "miraculous nature of the holy text".

The underlying belief is that scientific truths were also revealed in the Muslim holy book, and it is the work of scholars to unearth and publicise the textual evidence.

But the movement is not without its critics, who say that the notion that modern science was revealed in the Koran confuses spiritual truth, which is constant, and empirical truth, which depends on the state of science at any given point in time.
I think I know where the TEOTWAWKI is going to come from.

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And what happens when Mecca vanishes from the face of the earth?

Greenwich will exist long after Mecca is a glassy oil swamp...
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Yeah - after they pry my current watch from my cold, dead hands - to paraphrase the great one!
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When I worked at lockheed they built a L 10-11 for I belive the king of saudi or maybe it was another one of those countrys. I got up in it. The interior was fantastic! It had solid gold bathroom faucets etc. The kicker was it had a round huge bed that was on a pivot and was somehow fixed to rotate so the head would always face east as the plane turned!
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J Miller wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7359258.stm
Muslim call to adopt Mecca time

By Magdi Abdelhadi
BBC Arab affairs analyst

Muslim scientists and clerics have called for the adoption of Mecca time to replace GMT, arguing that the Saudi city is the true centre of the Earth.

Mecca is the direction all Muslims face when they perform their daily prayers.

The call was issued at a conference held in the Gulf state of Qatar under the title: Mecca, the Centre of the Earth, Theory and Practice.

One geologist argued that unlike other longitudes, Mecca's was in perfect alignment to magnetic north.

He said the English had imposed GMT on the rest of the world by force when Britain was a big colonial power, and it was about time that changed.

Mecca watch

A prominent cleric, Sheikh Youssef al-Qaradawy, said modern science had at last provided evidence that Mecca was the true centre of the Earth; proof, he said, of the greatness of the Muslim "qibla" - the Arabic word for the direction Muslims turn to when they pray.

The meeting also reviewed what has been described as a Mecca watch, the brainchild of a French Muslim.

The watch is said to rotate anti-clockwise and is supposed to help Muslims determine the direction of Mecca from any point on Earth.

The meeting in Qatar is part of a popular trend in some Muslim societies of seeking to find Koranic precedents for modern science.

It is called "Ijaz al-Koran", which roughly translates as the "miraculous nature of the holy text".

The underlying belief is that scientific truths were also revealed in the Muslim holy book, and it is the work of scholars to unearth and publicise the textual evidence.

But the movement is not without its critics, who say that the notion that modern science was revealed in the Koran confuses spiritual truth, which is constant, and empirical truth, which depends on the state of science at any given point in time.
I think I know where the TEOTWAWKI is going to come from.

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But Rome is no longer trying to run the world, and the Baptists are not nearly big enough....

Outside of that, the only Religionists with enough clout to try somthing that stupid are the Muslims... and they worship (at) a Rock that we can turn into Glass slag...

Theopolitical Islam is nothing without the Hajj...
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Kismet wrote: Science and religion don't mix :!:Michael in NH
Wow, THAT'S a can of worms to open right there. :shock:

Joe, from what I have read Islam would love to be the center of the world: physicaly, religously, politicaly, economically,......
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[quote="Old Ironsights"] and they worship (at) a Rock that we can turn into Glass slag...
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...and should.
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I think I know where the TEOTWAWKI is going to come from.

Joe
This gentleman seems to know all about that subject:
http://www.ronaldweinland.com/
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