Picked up an 1894S

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Picked up an 1894S

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Picked up the well used 1894S this week. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but I should be able to fix that shortly. So far after playing around with it, it doesn't seem to like to feed .44 Specials or anything else other that .44 Mag JHPs. It really hates the Blazer .44 Magnum aluminum case shells that my 94P in the photo just loves. Locked it up tight and had to take the lever out to clear it. No big deal, just an interesting difference between the two.
The stainless steel has kind of a "frosted" finish. Haven't seen that before other than the models with the laminated stocks.

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I hope this lucky roll on good used stuff continues, I'm having fun! :D

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Generally, I don't care for stainless rifles - but that's one good-looking rifle, there.


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I think the SS barrel and aluminum are galling against each other while chambering. Stainless can be funny characters. Could try to polish the chamber but not easy on a lever gun without a real long polishing rod.

Does your blued gun chamber the specials? Could be just minor difference in feed ramp, polish it up maybe?
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GunnyMack wrote:I think the SS barrel and aluminum are galling against each other while chambering. Stainless can be funny characters. Could try to polish the chamber but not easy on a lever gun without a real long polishing rod.

Does your blued gun chamber the specials? Could be just minor difference in feed ramp, polish it up maybe?
Yes, the blued one feeds everything but heavy wide nosed flat points, Specials or Magnum. That little 94P has always been one of my Go To rifles when something needs to be thumped. When I lived out in the sticks it had a spot right next to the back door.

No big deal if I can't shoot the alum. case ammo through the new one but I do want to be able to shoot the Specials. I have a lot of those and enjoy shooting them. I may end up sending it off for an action job somewhere. It's also going to get the Scout Rifle treatment w/ an XS scope rail and a Leupold scout scope. Though I've been reading some good things about the Vortex scopes.

jb 8)
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Nice looking rifle and it does not look "well used".
Aluminum is not as slick as brass and has given me a few problems in the past.
Easy solution - use brass cases and enjoy the rifle. :)
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That's a good looking rifle.... 8) 8)
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I'm fond of stainless guns. They do well in the Tongass National Forest where rainfall is measured in feet and salt spray is, well, salty and sometimes freezes on guns.

about the feeding, I'm sure that the guys that shoot 'em most can help with that. sometimes a little bit of caressing with 2000 grit can work wonders.

my guide gun is very sensitive to ogive shape, and prefers the truncated cone on wide meplat bullets. it will stutter on the rounded ogive of some cast bullets.

I've considered painting my GS, but the Tongass woods are so dark I might lose it. Heh.

that's a fine rifle and has a brite future . . .
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I remember reading in my owners manual (I own several Marlin 94's) that marlin recomends against the Speer aluminum cased ammo. I have never shot any in my guns,so cant say if it works in mine or not.
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Makes sense. All my '94s have been used so haven't seen a manual. Doesn't really matter. I'd bought several hundred rounds years ago that were on sale. I want to say about $12/ box or so but I'm down to the last couple boxes. Just thought it was interesting that one would feed and shoot them really well and the other didn't. Just an observation and don't have any plans to buy any more. As long as it feeds and shoots my SWC hand loads I'm happy.

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Your timing needs to be speeded up to run the 44Spls... ever so slightly add a little layer of JB Weld to the bottom of the carrier, sand it smooth, then polish... it's a matter of add, then test... Just make sure you don't add so much that it won't then feed the 44Mags! I got my 1894 feeding the C45S round that Adirondak Jack developed for CAS. (Think 45ACP length with a 45Colt rim). But, it won't feed 45Colts... hangs 'em up as they come out of the magazine. The C45S has its own step in the top of the carrier, but the 45Colts want to stop there also. It's doable. I've seen videos, but I just haven't done quite enough fit n' test yet!
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I would suggest checking the owner's manual - my friend's owner's manual for his Marlin 1894C specifically singles out CCI Blazer aluminum-cased ammo as unsafe in it.


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I don't believe it was a matter of being unsafe. The aluminum cases were not very smooth, and hung up being extracted. I had that problem when I used Blazer aluminum in my G36. They stovepiped a lot.
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BlaineG wrote:I don't believe it was a matter of being unsafe. The aluminum cases were not very smooth, and hung up being extracted. I had that problem when I used Blazer aluminum in my G36. They stovepiped a lot.

Right. The same thing happed in my G19. Only time that ever happened was with the Blazers and I've run some real El Cheapo's through that thing.

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I have a JM stamped one. Shoots great but all of my loads have been mostly hand loads.

Great shooting guns and the values have been going up many places for the JM stamped ones.


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Rube Burrows wrote:I have a JM stamped one. Shoots great but all of my loads have been mostly hand loads.

Great shooting guns and the values have been going up many places for the JM stamped ones.


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Rube , I have that same pair. Except my 94 has Skinner sights. Great combo!
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Polishing and ramping the chamber mouth will help but that may not be what is causing the problem.
Depending on just where ( in the forward movement of the bolt) the jam is occurring it could also be the bolt face needing some polish or the lead in area of the extractor (right where the rim first touches the bottom of the extractor). Sometimes just shortening the rim shelf, ( the lip on the bolt face that the rim rests on.) But, you just shorten it some on the extractor side. What this does is allow the rim to come under the extractor hook easier.

BTW, Gaulding is not an issue with gun stainless. Marine stainless yes, but it's softer. The gun stainless (generally 416 alloy) is harder and will even attract a magnet. But, to run aluminum Blaser the least bit of binding in either one( blue or stainless) will hang up the aluminum cases.
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