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Is this a stupid idea?

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Usually I backpack out to a nice little spot I've got about half an hour from the place to shoot so I try to pack tight.

I'll prime my cases at the cabin, then load them with different charges when I'm out there, depending on what I'm trying to accomplish at the time.

Ive been using this excel mint container I wiped out to bring the powder in (trail boss) because it fits perfectly in my shell case. I just empty the powder back into the original container when I get back.

Is the powder ok in the metal container, just for the day? I was going to cover the outside with duct tape and relabel it but if I shouldn't use it then I'll try to find something else.

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I wouldn't dump it back in the original container, although if I wanted to save it for future use, I might dump it back in another carefully-labeled container, as in "use me first" in case there got some moisture in it (so as not to contaminate your larger reserve container). Label should include Maker, Type, Lot Number, and date you last used it.

There certainly ARE small moisture-proof containers you could use for 'range use' - I'd suggest the pill bottles you get with prescription medication. Get one for EACH powder you might take to the range, and label them accordingly, and just fill them for 'range use' and store them with your other powder - no need to put any back in original container, but just refill the smaller containers with a range-trip's worth or two when they are depleted.
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AJMD429 wrote:I wouldn't dump it back in the original container, although if I wanted to save it for future use, I might dump it back in another carefully-labeled container, as in "use me first" in case there got some moisture in it (so as not to contaminate your larger reserve container). Label should include Maker, Type, Lot Number, and date you last used it.

There certainly ARE small moisture-proof containers you could use for 'range use' - I'd suggest the pill bottles you get with prescription medication. Get one for EACH powder you might take to the range, and label them accordingly, and just fill them for 'range use' and store them with your other powder - no need to put any back in original container, but just refill the smaller containers with a range-trip's worth or two when they are depleted.
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Just came in from a walk. It's getting chilly! Which got me to thinking maybe that metal container will sweat, going from cold to warm, bringing moisture to the powder? Hmm, I think for my purposes plastic will be better.

No prescription bottles round here... Might have to peruse the candy aisle next time I'm at the store.

Good ideas
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Camel73 wrote:Just came in from a walk. It's getting chilly!
Very jealous! Still hot and humid here!

I've seen some mints in plastic containers here. Another thought, though they probably won't fit in the ammo case as nicely...
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Camel73 wrote:Just came in from a walk. It's getting chilly!
Very jealous! Still hot and humid here!
Now I'm jealous. I love hot and humid! Ha... I think we're in for some huge snow this season, and big winter kill. Lots of young small skinny deer I've seen..
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Camel73 wrote:
No prescription bottles round here... Might have to peruse the candy aisle next time I'm at the store.

Maybe a friendly pharmacist will give or sell you a couple of new/in-labelled plastic Rx bottles - I would just not tell him/her you want them for gunpowder ( small first aid kit ? ;) )


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Doc's ideas are indeed good ones. Pete's suggestion is good, too.

I have in fact received a few Rx bottles from my pharmacist like Pete suggested, including some very tall ones to hold my Lee Hand Trimmer cutters and a few other items.
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Lol, was just thinking that same thing 10 minutes ago.. needed a taller container to keep my decapping pin with the ram prime. Just finished popping and priming. Put a bunch of paper towel around the sides and bottom (top too) inside of my tin.. it'll do for today. Off I go!
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I think there are numerous plastic screw lid containers better suited than a pill bottle. Most will hold more powder also, as a big bore rifle case would use up the little you brought in a pill bottle quickly. My measure has removable plastic bottles, so I simply take it off and screw the lid on for travel to the range. I think a antacid bottle would suit your needs better, and hold more powder.
If the container is clean, I'd have no problem pouring it back in the original container. I do it all the time.
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Just got back from my little range..
I generally only load 1.5 grs per case so a little goes a long way. I'd say about 1/3 of that little tin for 25 shots this morning. Leaving to hit the candy store as I'm texting. Hopefully there is something I like in the container I choose. :D
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Well, not much selection at the place I went to but tic tac's will do fine.

Wouldn't that thin plastic condensate just the same?
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35mm film canisters work well. Just write on the lids with a sharpie.

I generally take a Lee Classic Loader, a canister of primers, a couple of canisters of powder, and a quantity of bullets with me to make up loads on a range.
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Try plastic laboratory test tubes. I just ordered 25 with caps from fleabay for my premeasured loads for my muzzle loader. IIRC it was like $10 for twenty five of the size I needed.
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Might want to try an old fashioned powder horn with a wooden/rubber stopper. Might not sweat like metal but not entirely sure. Sure worked for alot of the old mountain men, and it looks cool to boot.


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Lol Powder horn sounds awesome! Now if I could only find some buckskin clothes... no really, I think I could pull this off - I've even got long hair to boot!

Oh ya, and one of those Everlasting Ballard time capsule deals... that would be cool...
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Considering powder's been shipped and sold in metal containers forever, I wouldn't worry about it.



My brother in law would never dump powder from his powder measure back into the original bottles/cans.
He said it was "contaminated" and didn't want to mix it with the fresh powder. I would always comment, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But if it is, you just loaded all that "contaminated powder" into all your ammo.
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Lol, good one.

What got me thinking about all this was the condensation thing, being up north here. Bringing the powder from cold to warm. Maybe just a thicker container... Just trying to think out loud with you guys on this... And, well, a bunch of other things it seems, lol
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What cas said. I've got powder that has been in the same metal can for 40 or more years. I often fill my Herter's powder measure with home made hopper from tail pipe and then dump it back in the can after charging the cases I'm loading. The humidity here was 100% this morning and I never worry about moisture in my powder. Not even the black stuff. You know Goex, Swiss etc.

A Gaviscon bottle would be good but the shape might be a problem.
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Has any anyone put tea light candles out with a bit of water before?

I stopped doing that after the second time the wee little candle turned into a firey torch about 3 feet high, not kidding.

I tried to make it do that a few times after and never could. Scary for sure and makes me second guess h2o with anything!

That's why I'm paranoid I guess. Ha... Eeeek
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I just googled water injection in engines.. lol - not what I thought. In fact just the opposite. I am unlearned for sure... working on that. :oops:

My point still is - adding water to that wee candle instantly turned it into a violent torch almost 3 feet high. Not sure why or how, but it happened and it freaked me out. Call me paranoid or whatever.

It's bad enough I'm messing with these types of loads... just trying to minimize murphy.
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Check out American science & surplus, they have all kinds of packaging stuff.

35mm film cans would be handy if you can find them.

Why not just carry loaded ammo and do away with the confusion of what powder, moisture, etc?
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Just remembered! My brother has blood test containers like the film kind for his diabetes.

As for the loading, I just like the fact that I can do it out where I shoot as I please. Relaxing, satisfying, labor of love I suppose :)
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Coin stores have tubes for nickels dime quarters that are durable with screw on tops.
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I'm going to use my brother's blood test containers...

Question: These are the only numbers I could find on this trail boss container. Is this the lot #?

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Gotcha! Loading for pleasure- I have 2000 7.62x51's that you can load at your leisure if ya like!

That is probably the LOT number. Guess they are saving ink by not printing 'LOT ' along with the number.
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Camel73 wrote:
Heard of water injection in engines?
Yes, and have had it on a couple cars. It works well to stop detonation and pinging on high compression engines using the crummy gas we have these days. Does nothing to help the engine fire the mixture at all. It simply cools the cylinder, and avoids the pinging.
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Lol, I had to edit that. I was under the wrong impression, badly.

I guess it'd have to be over 20 years ago now, I got to having coffee with a guy who built race motors and was somewhat of a specialist on engine heads. I was bad for throwing my free spirited ideas at him but he always took it well.

I was interested in the idea of engines running on water (some kind of hydrogen conversion thing) and we used to talk of water injection for more power.

Anyhow, that's where that came from. Don't judge me!!!! :oops: Lol!
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