Care To Comment On Washington AG's proposed Gun Ban?

[Blaine]

https://fortress.wa.gov/atg/formhandler ... tForm.aspx

[MrMurphy]

Excellent way for him to remove himself from office.

[Merle]

https://fortress.wa.gov/atg/formhandler ... tForm.aspx

Didn't see anything except the form - no back story, so no idea on what this is about.

[Blaine]

https://fortress.wa.gov/atg/formhandler ... tForm.aspx

Didn't see anything except the form - no back story, so no idea on what this is about.

http://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-release ... -magazines

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AG Ferguson proposes ban on assault weapons, high-capacity magazines
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Sep 7 2016

OLYMPIA — Attorney General Bob Ferguson, joined by a broad coalition of over 50 community leaders and elected officials, today announced he will submit agency request legislation in the 2017 session to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.

The bill would ban weapons like the AR-15 used to kill three teens and wound another at a party in Mukilteo in July. Reports indicate that the shooter used a 30-round magazine in that incident, which would also be banned under Ferguson’s proposal.

Ferguson’s proposed legislation has two key elements:

A ban on semiautomatic weapons with military-style features that render them more easily concealable or more deadly; and
A limit on magazine capacity — currently unlimited under Washington law — to a maximum of 10 rounds of ammunition.

“The recent tragedy in Mukilteo drives home the need to act with urgency to end the availability of weapons designed with only one purpose — to kill people,” Ferguson said. “I have a duty to protect the public, as well as uphold the constitution. My proposal will ban some of the deadliest weapons, while respecting the Second Amendment right to bear arms.”

Sen. David Frockt (D-46) and Sen. Kevin Ranker (D-40) are working with Ferguson to craft the legislation. The proposal will be modeled after successful assault weapon laws in other states, such as New York and Connecticut. The courts have determined these states’ bans to be constitutional.

Unlike the bans in some other states, Ferguson’s proposal targets only sales, grandfathering current gun ownership. The legislation would not require registration of existing weapons.

On July 30, three more young people were killed when a troubled 19-year-old opened fire on a party in Mukilteo — reportedly using an AR-15, a military-style semiautomatic weapon that would be restricted under Ferguson’s proposal.

This legislation will save lives.

A review of mass shootings between January 2009 and January 2013 by Mayors Against Illegal Guns found that incidents where assault weapons or large capacity ammunition magazines were used resulted in 135% more people shot and 57% more killed, compared to other mass shootings.

When a gunman terrorized Seattle Pacific University with a double-barreled shotgun in 2014, student John Meis heroically tackled and disarmed the gunman while he was reloading. Even more Washingtonians might have been shot if this weapon held more rounds and had the assault-style features of the alleged Mukilteo shooter’s weapon.

A recent poll presented by Washington Ceasefire and Ceasefire Oregon showed that 65 percent of adults in the two states — including a great many gun owners — favor an assault weapons ban and want lawmakers to act.

Attorney General Ferguson will file this legislation in December.

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The Office of the Attorney General is the chief legal office for the state of Washington with attorneys and staff in 27 divisions across the state providing legal services to roughly 200 state agencies, boards and commissions. Visit www.atg.wa.gov to learn more.

Contact:

Comment line: 1-800-541-7340

Comment online: http://www.atg.wa.gov/assault-weapons-proposal

[JHarold]

if I was a lot younger I would pack up and head for Montana or Wy.

[Merle]

https://fortress.wa.gov/atg/formhandler ... tForm.aspx

Didn't see anything except the form - no back story, so no idea on what this is about.

http://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-release ... -magazines

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AG Ferguson proposes ban on assault weapons, high-capacity magazines
Printer-friendly version

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Sep 7 2016

OLYMPIA — Attorney General Bob Ferguson, joined by a broad coalition of over 50 community leaders and elected officials, today announced he will submit agency request legislation in the 2017 session to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.

The bill would ban weapons like the AR-15 used to kill three teens and wound another at a party in Mukilteo in July. Reports indicate that the shooter used a 30-round magazine in that incident, which would also be banned under Ferguson’s proposal.

Ferguson’s proposed legislation has two key elements:

A ban on semiautomatic weapons with military-style features that render them more easily concealable or more deadly; and
A limit on magazine capacity — currently unlimited under Washington law — to a maximum of 10 rounds of ammunition.

“The recent tragedy in Mukilteo drives home the need to act with urgency to end the availability of weapons designed with only one purpose — to kill people,” Ferguson said. “I have a duty to protect the public, as well as uphold the constitution. My proposal will ban some of the deadliest weapons, while respecting the Second Amendment right to bear arms.”

Sen. David Frockt (D-46) and Sen. Kevin Ranker (D-40) are working with Ferguson to craft the legislation. The proposal will be modeled after successful assault weapon laws in other states, such as New York and Connecticut. The courts have determined these states’ bans to be constitutional.

Unlike the bans in some other states, Ferguson’s proposal targets only sales, grandfathering current gun ownership. The legislation would not require registration of existing weapons.

On July 30, three more young people were killed when a troubled 19-year-old opened fire on a party in Mukilteo — reportedly using an AR-15, a military-style semiautomatic weapon that would be restricted under Ferguson’s proposal.

This legislation will save lives.

A review of mass shootings between January 2009 and January 2013 by Mayors Against Illegal Guns found that incidents where assault weapons or large capacity ammunition magazines were used resulted in 135% more people shot and 57% more killed, compared to other mass shootings.

When a gunman terrorized Seattle Pacific University with a double-barreled shotgun in 2014, student John Meis heroically tackled and disarmed the gunman while he was reloading. Even more Washingtonians might have been shot if this weapon held more rounds and had the assault-style features of the alleged Mukilteo shooter’s weapon.

A recent poll presented by Washington Ceasefire and Ceasefire Oregon showed that 65 percent of adults in the two states — including a great many gun owners — favor an assault weapons ban and want lawmakers to act.

Attorney General Ferguson will file this legislation in December.

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The Office of the Attorney General is the chief legal office for the state of Washington with attorneys and staff in 27 divisions across the state providing legal services to roughly 200 state agencies, boards and commissions. Visit http://www.atg.wa.gov to learn more.

Contact:

Comment line: 1-800-541-7340

Comment online: http://www.atg.wa.gov/assault-weapons-proposal

OK, thanks for the link!

[Ray Newman]

"Unlike the bans in some other states, Ferguson’s proposal targets only sales, grandfathering current gun ownership. The legislation would not require registration of existing weapons."

If this passes and do not forget that during an election years all sorts of promises' are, we will soon hear about the "grandfathered assault weapons law loop hole" which must be closed to protect public safety. This is just the first step to banning semi automatics, then we will hear about these long range sniper rifles, which are what varmint hunters and long distance target shooters favor. It will never end until civilian ownership of firearms is outlawed. But there will be exceptions for the politically connected and the politicians....

[Blaine]

"Unlike the bans in some other states, Ferguson’s proposal targets only sales, grandfathering current gun ownership. The legislation would not require registration of existing weapons."

If this passes and do not forget that during an election years all sorts of promises' are, we will soon hear about the "grandfathered assault weapons law loop hole" which must be closed to protect public safety. This is just the first step to banning semi automatics, then we will hear about these long range sniper rifles, which are what varmint hunters and long distance target shooters favor. It will never end until civilian ownership of firearms is outlawed. But there will be exceptions for the politically connected and the politicians....

Not that "they" care, but this is unconstitutional in that it tries to work around the State Constitution. Washington actually has a better "2nd Amendment" than the Bill of Rights....

[Ray Newman]

Blaine: do you think that the anti-firearms groups really care if it is unconstitutional? Plus the WA Supreme Court would probably agree with the Atty. General. Think of the Gregoire-Rossi election results and how the lower court found no evidence of voter fraud and Rossi did not challenge the lower court findings to the Washington Supreme Court level because of the higher court's political make-up and leaning.

[jcw]

I retire in less than two years. We're out of Washington. It's either back to Montana. Idaho and Texas are on our short list.

[1894cfan]

"THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like he's violating his oath of office!?

[Grizz]

Not that "they" care, but if they really want to save lives they can ban

hospitals and doctors where something like a million people die from hospital and doctor aquired illness EVERY YEAR.

they can ban cars and save upwards of fifty thousand lives EVERY YEAR

they can ban hammers and save upwards of 300 lives EVERY YEAR

they can ban fists and save more hundreds of lives EVERY YEAR

they can easily save tens of thousands MORE lives than AR-15s take every year

it's the politicians that should be restricted, confined, limited, and disposed of . . .

[windy]

I tend to disagree with the "all or nothing" policy--in my 71 years of experience, it too often comes out "nothing". but you fellas go on thinking that way; I enlisted back in '65 to give you that right....
windy

[Blaine]

I tend to disagree with the "all or nothing" policy--in my 71 years of experience, it too often comes out "nothing". but you fellas go on thinking that way; I enlisted back in '65 to give you that right....
windy

The 2nd Amendment has no need of negotiations. If you enlisted, you swore to uphold the constitution, not the right to discuss the conditions under which the Bill of Rights can be administered.

[AJMD429]

If this is representative of Seattle, it's a lost-cause....

http://clashdaily.com/2016/09/disgustin ... al-anthem/

[Grizz]

yup, that's the pothole for ya.

they try to reduce auto congestion by narrowing roads and making more bike lanes. they are completely nuts there abouts.

[handirifle]

For those that think that a "little gun control" is OK, just look 2 states south. Here in CA I remember when I could buy or sell a handgun at a local hardware store. Walk in, buy, walk out. Now it has to be a 10 day wait, for a STATE APPROVED handgun, and that list is soon going to get even smaller. If the maker makes even a small improvement even for safety, the gun has been "modified" and must try to get back on the approved list. Fat chance.

Now the next generation of moronic restrictions, in the form of non existent technology, firing pin printing, will ban sales altogether.

When they first forced the lead ban on us, they said it was ONLY going to be in the "historic" condor breeding range. Laws were just passed and soon it will be statewide.

Years ago when these libtards voted in an assault weapon ban very similar to your proposed one, they grandfathered in high cap magazines and rifles with no bullet buttons. Now all are banned regardless of when you got it, and it must be destroyed or sold out of state, for magazines, and registered for rifles. Sound familiar?

For those that think they won't worry because I don't have that type of rifle, I say show me historical evidence that they ever stop taking more and more of our freedoms?

And sadly for those that move,it's only a matter of time before the libtards move too. They DO IT ON PURPOSE FOLKS, they do not move to find a nicer place to live, they move to push their agenda. There are some with great wealth, such as George Soros, that will pay folks to do just that. Then they recruit others to do the same. Eventually they have enough numbers to start making a difference.

Now we have POTUS telling the UN that Americans need to give up some of their liberties for common peace with other nations. Gee I wonder what liberties those might be? If anyone thinks there will EVER be enough gun control to satisfy them, I say get your head out of the sand, or some other place where the sun does not shine, and look at history. Californias' history is a good place to start. It's the libs that live in the cities where the numbers are that end up with the votes to push their agenda. They call it democracy.

Good luck for WA. And as we have seen nationwide, it matters not what a constitution says, when a liberal court re-interprets it to suit their agenda.

[Sixgun]

Unenforceable ......period

I do know for a 100% fact that every manufacturer who makes AR-15 rifles has been geared up to make as many of these rifles as possible....along with hi cap mags.

It would be like outlawing knives......or illegal drugs......or prostitution......or murder.........------6