Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle
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Re: Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle
Is it wrong for me to wish this rifle in 7.62x54R? You know, for historical reasons.
Re: Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle
Yes.
Totally impractical & you won't see a rimmed case in that rifle.
Denis
Totally impractical & you won't see a rimmed case in that rifle.
Denis
Re: Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle
Don't get why HENRY is trying to reinvent the BLR, since the BLR is in current production. Looking at the 2, I'd go with the Browning and it's 40+ year excellent tack record at a slightly lower price and lighter weight. However, I don't claim to know anything about "MARKETING". Hope they know what they are doing, and remain successful at it. I'd rather see an exact duplicate of the original Winchester 1894 SRC from the early 1900's with a few modern calibers along with the originals thrown in.
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Re: Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle
I'm not sure they're reinventing the BLR as much as just trying to make a contemporary levergun capable of shooting bottleneck cartridges with pointed, high-ballistic-coefficient bullets. That of necessity entails a 'box' magazine, a rotary-locking bolt, and so looks like the Browning.tman wrote:Don't get why HENRY is trying to reinvent the BLR, since the BLR is in current production. Looking at the 2, I'd go with the Browning and it's 40+ year excellent tack record at a slightly lower price and lighter weight.
I'd prefer the American-made Henry, and the free-floated barrel and stationary trigger. There's not much "tradition" with Browning or Winchester these days, other than foreign investors and manufacturers buying up the remains of once-domestic arms makers.
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Re: Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle
Seeing the two side by side I think the Henry has cleaner lines, apart from the S shaped recoil pad.
For the competition I shoot a set of open or peep sights are required, and for a hunter, the trip would be over if you broke your scope.
My only other gripe is that both Browning and Henry have forgotten what their forefathers taught them. Guns are made of steel and airoplanes are made of aluminium. I think until they get that right, the older, steel BLRs will always be more sought after.
For the competition I shoot a set of open or peep sights are required, and for a hunter, the trip would be over if you broke your scope.
My only other gripe is that both Browning and Henry have forgotten what their forefathers taught them. Guns are made of steel and airoplanes are made of aluminium. I think until they get that right, the older, steel BLRs will always be more sought after.
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Re: Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle
Pretty sure you can find good condition Savage 99s for that price. And they look better.FWiedner wrote:It's not in the 'hideous' category on looks.
Detachable mag is a big plus in my book.
Got a little sticker shock going on here... $1000?
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Re: Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle
Matter of opinion.
I've always thought the '99 one of the ugliest leverguns ever produced.
Well-made, don't run off on a tangent in what I'm saying, just oogly as hell to me.
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I've always thought the '99 one of the ugliest leverguns ever produced.
Well-made, don't run off on a tangent in what I'm saying, just oogly as hell to me.
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Re: Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle
I guess my earlier post didn't post?
Anyway, I have always liked Henry as a company. I dislike their lack of loading gates on their center fires, I love their rimfires, I respect their company philosophies and quality of their products.
I like the looks of this rifle, for the most part. I like it a lot more than the BLR - I have never had an interest in the BLR - the looks and several other things always turned me off.
I like traditional leverguns for my own reasons, like many of you do. But there is a huge market out there that will never be influenced by traditional things - just look at muzzle-loader hunting. I know almost no muzzle loader hunters who hunt with traditional muzzle-loaders. They almost all hunt with modern inline muzzle loaders. Take any of several of the state-required muzzle loader hunting courses with a traditional muzzle loader, and you will not hear the end of how wrong you are for not hunting with a modern muzzle loader.
Henry's gateless leverguns are targeting these hunters. This rifle will too. And for me, I like traditional, and will continue to collect and hunt with traditional leverguns. But a lever gun that shoots long-range cartridges like a bolt-action? I'll take that, too.
Price I can understand. We would all like to see it lower, but there are two considerations - quality costs, and R&D costs have to be recovered, and few people have any idea how high those costs are.
And the caliber selection is perfect. If you want another cartridge, throw another barrel on - the action is likely to work with cartridges like .260 Rem, 7mm-08, .338 Federal, etc.
Anyway, I have always liked Henry as a company. I dislike their lack of loading gates on their center fires, I love their rimfires, I respect their company philosophies and quality of their products.
I like the looks of this rifle, for the most part. I like it a lot more than the BLR - I have never had an interest in the BLR - the looks and several other things always turned me off.
I like traditional leverguns for my own reasons, like many of you do. But there is a huge market out there that will never be influenced by traditional things - just look at muzzle-loader hunting. I know almost no muzzle loader hunters who hunt with traditional muzzle-loaders. They almost all hunt with modern inline muzzle loaders. Take any of several of the state-required muzzle loader hunting courses with a traditional muzzle loader, and you will not hear the end of how wrong you are for not hunting with a modern muzzle loader.
Henry's gateless leverguns are targeting these hunters. This rifle will too. And for me, I like traditional, and will continue to collect and hunt with traditional leverguns. But a lever gun that shoots long-range cartridges like a bolt-action? I'll take that, too.
Price I can understand. We would all like to see it lower, but there are two considerations - quality costs, and R&D costs have to be recovered, and few people have any idea how high those costs are.
And the caliber selection is perfect. If you want another cartridge, throw another barrel on - the action is likely to work with cartridges like .260 Rem, 7mm-08, .338 Federal, etc.
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Re: Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle
Henry is certainly busy these days and I'm glad for their successes in the market place. This latest venture will succeed or fail based upon sales numbers, too. But I can't see much of a market for a rifle that appears to be lesser compared to the time proven BLR.
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Re: Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle
I see no area where the Henry "appears to be lesser" than the Browning.
Splain that one, Lucy!
Denis
Splain that one, Lucy!
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Re: Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle
Rather see Henry reproduce on of these instead.Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:DPris wrote:It's not a gun for lever-action traditionalists, it's not a bolt-action, and it's not a tactical gun.
It IS a well-made and accurate levergun in actual & useful rifle calibers that can easily handle 300-400 yard terrain IF it appeals to you.
If it doesn't, it doesn't.
My comments have not been intended to sell either the product or the concept, just to pass on info for anybody interested.
Lotta people dislike the Henry brand for various reasons, but the company has put quite a bit into this model & it simply breaks new ground for them.
Denis
Yeah, but it could be. That gun is just begging for a tapered octagon barrel and Schnabel Tip forewood.
Re: Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle
Tell 'em!
Denis
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Nate's picture is one pretty rifle!
That would be my choice,lol but the Henry does interest me in 223, as a NY coyote rifle.
But it probably is no better then my bolt action 243, sigh.... so many decisions
That would be my choice,lol but the Henry does interest me in 223, as a NY coyote rifle.
But it probably is no better then my bolt action 243, sigh.... so many decisions