Cougar Killed in Chicago Neighborhood

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Cougar Killed in Chicago Neighborhood

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ARFs in an uproar. Go figure. :roll:
Do you agree that police needed to kill the cougar?

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Obviously we need to have more Chicagoans mauled.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... 8147.story

By Jeremy Manier and Tina Shah | Tribune reporters
April 15, 2008

A cougar ran loose in Chicago on Monday for the first time since the city's founding in the 19th Century. But by day's end, the animal lay dead in a back alley on the North Side, shot by police who said they feared it was turning to attack.

No one knew where the 150-pound cat came from, though on Saturday Wilmette police had received four reports of a cougar roaming that suburb, roughly 15 miles from the site of Monday's shooting.

Whatever its origin, the 5-foot-long cougar's unlikely journey ended in the Roscoe Village neighborhood, where residents reported sightings throughout the day to the Chicago Commission on Animal Care and Control. Resident Ben Greene said police cornered the cougar shortly before 6 p.m. in his side yard on the 3400 block of North Hoyne Avenue.

Greene said he heard a volley of gunfire as he was bathing his 10-month-old son. His wife, Kate, ran upstairs screaming with their 3-year-old son, and they all took cover in a back room.
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OMG! Gunfire! How awful! :roll:
Only thing that would have made it worse is if some poor schmuck (non-cop) had had the audacity to kill the cat while it was noshing on a kid.


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"At first, I'm thinking there's a gun battle in the street," said Greene, who owns a trucking company.

As the shots stopped, Greene heard the police yelling, "We got him! We got him!" He ventured downstairs and moved on his knees to the front door, where he saw police on his lawn. The officers had shot holes in an air conditioning unit on the side of Greene's house while aiming for the tan cougar, which died in the alley near Greene's garage.

Chicago Police Capt. Mike Ryan said the cougar tried to attack the officers when they tried to contain it. Police said no one was hurt and they did not know the cougar's gender.

"It was turning on the officers," Ryan said, adding that no officers were hurt. "There was no way to take it into custody."

Normally reclusive creatures, most cougars retreated to habitats in the Rocky Mountains and Black Hills early in American history. But some researchers believe overcrowding in recent years has driven the animals back east.

Two cougars have been killed in Illinois in the last decade. In 2000, a train struck and killed one in Randolph County in southern Illinois, and in 2004 a bow hunter killed a cougar in Mercer County in western Illinois.

But in the previous century, there had been no confirmed sightings in Illinois of a cougar, which is also known as a puma, mountain lion or panther. The last known appearance of the animal was in 1864 at the southern end of the state.

The Wilmette and Chicago sightings capped a flurry of recent cougar activity in the area, though no one knows if that was all the same animal. Several people reported seeing a cougar at the end of March in North Chicago, about 20 miles north of Wilmette. A Wisconsin trapper came face to face with a cougar in January, about 25 miles from the Illinois border.

That trapper said the cat bounded away 12 feet at a leap.

Starting early Monday, frightened Roscoe Village residents began calling police with reports of a cougar which was bounding over high fences in the neighborhood. Greene said his wife got an e-mail alert about the animal Monday morning through a neighborhood watch list.

Frank Hirschmann, 50, of the 3500 block of North Seeley Avenue saw the animal pass by his home.

"I was sitting on the porch, and all of a sudden he crossed the street, and hurdled a 6-foot fence like nothing," Hirschmann said. He said he then ran into his house and watched police chase the cougar on foot.

Animal control officials were not sure if the cougar was wild or an escaped pet, though they noted that it is illegal to keep the animals as pets. It's unclear how a cougar could have traveled south into Chicago from Wilmette, but the areas are connected by a Metra train route, on which the cougar could have walked, and a waterway.

Ben Greene's neighbor, Romeo Dorazio, had just gotten home from dinner when he heard about 10 gunshots.

"I knew it was really nearby. I walked to the window and saw a cougar," Dorazio said. "It was the freakiest thing I ever saw."

James Reynolds was sitting in his living room when he heard what seemed like "fireworks popping."

The 45-year-old went out in his back yard and saw a cougar attempting to jump from his neighbor's fence to his. He knew it was a cougar because he had seen it on the Discovery Channel, he said.

Officers shouted for him to go inside his house, and he saw them kill the cougar in about 10 shots.

A spokesman for the Illinois Department of Natural Resources said Monday that the state's current wildlife code does not protect cougars because they are not considered a normal part of the ecosystem here. The official said the only state regulations that might come into play would be gun ordinances, but because police did the shooting that issue is moot.

Greene said he agreed with the police decision to kill the cougar.

"As far as I witnessed, they did a pretty good job," Greene said. "Hypothetically, if there were kids in the yard and the cougar jumps in, what would the cougar have done?"

Tribune reporter Jeremy Gorner contributed to this report.

jmanier@tribune.com

tshah@tribune.com

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Killed:

1 A/C unit
1 Moutain Lion

Sex undertermined in each case.

"As far as I witnessed, they did a pretty good job," Greene said.
" he saw them kill the cougar in about 10 shots."
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bsaride wrote:Killed:

1 A/C unit
1 Moutain Lion

Sex undertermined in each case.

"As far as I witnessed, they did a pretty good job," Greene said.
" he saw them kill the cougar in about 10 shots."
Can't really blame them... all they had was 9mm or .40S&W - neither with solids.

Now If'n someone had been there with a good Six Gun or grabbed a the Shotty with slugs, it wouldn't have taken 10.
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Time for the Illinois DNR to issue a press release saying there's no credible evidence that there are cougars in Illinois, and that even if there were, cougars are reclusive creatures that avoid human contact.
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Popular story , 903 comments allready :lol:
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That cat looks mighty sleek and well fed. What do you suppose are the odds it was an escaped pet?
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Where were the animal control folks with their dart guns? Oh, maybe the 1-15 minute response time was too much for the cops (even though it is just fine for the citizens, day-to-day)... :roll:
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SJPrice wrote:That cat looks mighty sleek and well fed. What do you suppose are the odds it was an escaped pet?
Given that there are a lot of Rich ARFs there whou would gladly harbor/raise an illegal wild animal...

I'd say 50/50
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I hope all of you out in cyberland paid close attention to the handy "Encountering a cougar" tips.
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nemhed wrote:I hope all of you out in cyberland paid close attention to the handy "Encountering a cougar" tips.
Ya mean (within CRook County):

(A) Withdraw .357,
(B) empty as appropriate
(C) Run like heck ?
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These were in the link for that article:

ENCOUNTERING A COUGAR

- Pick up children immediately.

- Do not approach it. Give the cougar an avenue for escape.

- Do not run; this can trigger an attack.

- Back away without turning your back on it.

- Do all you can to look bigger. Don't hide or crouch down.


Really hard to shoot, shovel, and shut up in Chicago
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That is crazy!!!
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nemhed wrote:...Really hard to shoot, shovel, and shut up in Chicago
Naah. The 'bangers and Mobsters get away with it every day.

It's just Jane Average that has a tough time of it... :roll:
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Read some of the comments if you want a good laugh.

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you have a lot of options:

1. you can place his paws in a concrete block and take him out for a one way boat ride on the lake.

2. you can put him in the foundation of a new building.

3. you can take him to Indiana and bury him in a corn field.

4. you can take him to the butcher district and drop him in a sausage grinder.


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poor thing just wanted some balsamic vinegar
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sobenk wrote:poor thing just wanted some balsamic vinegar
And (a) 4 year old(s) liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

It is an upscale Chicago Neighborhood after all... :wink:
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deerwhacker444 wrote:Read some of the comments if you want a good laugh.
Mostly made me retch... and remember, there are enough of those clowns to make a difference in Gun laws...
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I wonder how many of those shots actually hit the cat? A good 9mm HP is plenty to kill a 150 lb cat, with a well placed shot anyway. When I used to hunt them in Idaho, a lot of folks that hunted them with hounds used a 22 Mag through the lungs.
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TedH wrote:...with a well placed shot anyway.
Bingo! 8)

I have a hard time believing nobody grabbed a shotgun with solids. Most the cops around here have a one under the truck lid. If it were me, I might have swung by the candy store and borrowed a nice wheel-gun. :D
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