Happy with your Rossi 92?

Bill in Oregon · Post by **Bill in Oregon** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:56 am

All this talk about Rossi lever guns in .357 has me salivating. How is QC on these currently? What mods did you do to ensure smooth functioning? I would be mounting a peep.

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:08 am

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I never had to do squat with my .357 & .45 Colt Rossi M-92's, to get smooth cycling, good accuracy & pretty good fit/function.

I elected to install a safety-replacement bolt peep on the .45, and a Williams 5D-94AE on my .357.

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gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:46 am

I had a SS Rossi .357 a few years back, it was reliable and accurate with factory .357 and .38spl. the action was a little stiff right out of the box but that just gave me an excuse to shoot it more.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 1:12 pm

NKJ's DVD has great 'smoothing' instructions.

I have handled about a dozen from past ten year production including mine and family member's, and only one bad one (454 Casual with oversize chamber - sent it back and got rebarreled one in about ten days).

Not Safe Queen material (exception - my daughter's 45 Colt brass/octagon has best wood of ANY rifle I own), but solid working/hunting guns.

Bill in Oregon · Post by **Bill in Oregon** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 1:14 pm

Thanks for reminding me about Nate's DVD! Will order if I buy a 92.

7.62 Precision · Post by **7.62 Precision** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 1:56 pm

Bill in Oregon wrote:Thanks for reminding me about Nate's DVD! Will order if I buy a 92.

You must.

Do both.

I think Rossi has been watching Nate's DVD, too, as the current Rossis are better than they have been in the past, but the DVD is still a must, and get an ejector spring and SS follower while you are at it.

1894c · Post by **1894c** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:03 pm

To begin with I was somewhat reluctant to try a Rossi, many negative reviews, was looking for a Marlin 1894c, but couldn't find one at a decent price so I purchased a Rossi R92 in .357mag, 20" barrel, blue, with a saddle-ring (going Mule Deer hunting with it next week). I've had no issues with it at all, very reliable and accurate, actually more accurate than my Marlin 1894c that I was stupid enough to let go (have shot over 450+ rnds in the Rossi to date).

Over at the "Rossi Riflemen Forum" they suggest that you clean it good and cycle the action 500 times to smooth it out, I didn't need to do that. The wood/metal fit and finish on mine was good...the wood looks like it came from a high quality pallet, just saying that because it's not walnut. As others have stated it's not a fancy rifle, just a poor man's 1892 clone, but the basic 1892 model is turning out to be my favorite levergun design...looking to get a second Rossi in .357mag. with a 16" bbl...and talked to somebody this week about an original 1892 Winchester in 38/40... :)

P.S.--I bought the following two items from Steve's Gunz (Nate Kiowa Jones)--see attached photos...

Button Style Safety Replacement Plug.jpg

Mag-FollowerX (1).jpg

Panzercat · Post by **Panzercat** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:05 pm

Mine was a QC nightmare as of 2012.

An LGS rep reported to me about two months ago that it had gotten better, but heresay is heresay. Realguns did a two part article on their 454 line and covers the more common issues. I think that was mid 2013ish. Sadly, the affordable pistol caliber carbine market had continued to shrink and rossi is probably your best option these days.

Bill in Oregon · Post by **Bill in Oregon** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:41 pm

1892, I blame you for starting me down this twisted path with your talk of hunting mulies with your 92 in .357!
My biggest dilemma will be whether to get the 16 or the 20-inch barrel. Then it is off to NOE for that 180-grain WFN mold.

Panzercat · Post by **Panzercat** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:53 pm

Bill in Oregon wrote:1892, I blame you for starting me down this twisted path with your talk of hunting mulies with your 92 in .357!
My biggest dilemma will be whether to get the 16 or the 20-inch barrel. Then it is off to NOE for that 180-grain WFN mold.

Quality nonwithstanding, I gotta say the 16in barrel made for a super portable package in my brief ownership. It was stupid light weight, too.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:59 pm

Panzercat wrote:
Bill in Oregon wrote:1892, I blame you for starting me down this twisted path with your talk of hunting mulies with your 92 in .357!
My biggest dilemma will be whether to get the 16 or the 20-inch barrel. Then it is off to NOE for that 180-grain WFN mold.
Quality nonwithstanding, I gotta say the 16in barrel made for a super portable package in my brief ownership. It was stupid light weight, too.

I'd go for the 16" and if you order a second one, get the 24". No need for the 'compromise' 20"...

ollogger · Post by **ollogger** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:36 pm

5 years ago I bought a new 45 colt Rifle in the Rossi, ive run bout 2000 rounds through it
so its pretty well slicked up along with a bunch of dry cycles, my biggest gripe is the stock
warped to the right & im gonna fix that some day

ollogger

zack coyote · Post by **zack coyote** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:48 pm

I have three of them in .45 Colt. A 16", 20", and 24" octagon. My wife has a .357 stainless in 20". Hers has Nate's ejector spring, and mag follower. My guns have all the mods from Nate's DVD. The 16" is as handy as a handgun, and is my go to gun. The 24" shoots the best, and carries my mind back to simpler times. I have three 30-30's and a 45-70, but these Rossi's are my favorites. Not the prettiest, but keep them cleaned and oiled and they'll do the job. My oldest is 14 years old, and still works and shoots just fine. I'd rather have a 16" Rossi in .357, than an EBR.

Richardx · Post by **Richardx** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:55 pm

My SS in .45 Colt 20" has turned my great-grandfather's 1897 model in .32 Win Special into a safe queen.
Buy one now! Get Nate's DVD, SS mag spring and follower and try to wear it out!

JerryB · Post by **JerryB** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:13 pm

I have had a old Winchester 1892 32wcf rifle since 1954. I have always wanted a 92 .357. So when a good friend offered me his in 2007 for 200 bucks I jumped on it. It is a blue 20"SRC,I ordered Steve's video and an ejector spring. When it was finally all back together it was and is a real fine little carbine, .38 and .357 158 grain swc loads work just fine. It is a good carrying woods rifle and rides in my old saddle scabbard in the truck when we have to make the 100 mile trip south to Little Rock. Then it is full of 158grain XTP loads. The gun was about 10 years old when I got it and had 10 rounds fired through it, it's an Interarms Rossi I like it!!!!!!!!!!!

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:25 pm

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Here's a little something, to help you get on down the road to Nirvana..........

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Pisgah · Post by **Pisgah** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:54 pm

My .45 Colt Rossi has been flawless in every regard. Strictly based on personal preference, I replaced the plastic cartridge follower with steel and the bolt safety with Nate Kiowa Jones's plug. Fit, finish, action smoothness, trigger, accuracy -- no complaints whatsoever.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:04 am

There are 3 in my safe, 2 .357s and a .45Colt... let's just say that ain't any of them for sale.

veeman · Post by **veeman** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:11 am

I have 2 older Rossi's, both pre-safety. The older one is a 44-40 tac driver and is my main SASS shooter, have not had one single blip in the 15 plus years I've had it. A SRC that I cut the stock flat and added 1" pad, feels much better with that bit of LOP. I use .428 bullets with this rifle, hits every time.
The other is a .38/357, also very accurate. This one loves .38's, but not so much the .357's, but that's ok.
Both had action jobs, slick as a whistle.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:59 am

Bought mine in 07(?) from Nate. Pre-slicked and no safety. No i have had no issues, Yes, I'm happy

with it.

mark08 · Post by **mark08** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:32 am

Got mine from pawn shop..... A 1980? Rossi src 357 20" Interarms import, Many on the forum me gave good advice.. I ordered Nate's Dvd & spring kit plus a bullseye sight and have no complaints. Nor have any number of coyotes complained. Runs smooth shots straight. Grab you one.

Warhawk · Post by **Warhawk** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:04 pm

zack coyote wrote:I have three of them in .45 Colt. A 16", 20", and 24" octagon. My wife has a .357 stainless in 20". Hers has Nate's ejector spring, and mag follower. My guns have all the mods from Nate's DVD. The 16" is as handy as a handgun, and is my go to gun. The 24" shoots the best, and carries my mind back to simpler times. I have three 30-30's and a 45-70, but these Rossi's are my favorites. Not the prettiest, but keep them cleaned and oiled and they'll do the job. My oldest is 14 years old, and still works and shoots just fine. I'd rather have a 16" Rossi in .357, than an EBR.

You said something there that rings true with me, about being more confident with a good levergun than an "evil black rifle". I am far more comfortable with a levergun, especially in a high stress situation, probably in the dark, than I am with one of my ARs. The same goes for a revolver compared to a semi auto handgun, for me.

Same thing goes for hunting, it's all but impossible for me to silently, or even quietly chamber a round in an AR or SA handgun. Not so for a levergun, bolt gun, or revolver.

I have a lot of lever guns, Brownings, Marlins, Winchesters, and Rossi's. I have a pair of stainless Rossi 92 trappers, a 357 and a 44 that are my go to long guns. My favorite for hunting is a Marlin 45-70.

MrMurphy · Post by **MrMurphy** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:18 am

And that's why everyone has their favorites, Warhawk.....

I'm the exact opposite. While I like leverguns, I "grew up" on bolt action military rifles, and am most comfortable hunting with a bolt gun.

I've spent my entire adult life with the M16 family of weapons, and the only reason I'm not carrying one on duty at the moment is I have to wait for the next qualifying class in a few weeks. So to me, in a high stress situation (among many) having an M4 or M16 at hand is completely natural. While I'd do fine with a lever, having spent nearly 19 years with an M16 or AR close by means I know what I reach for first....

I still wouldn't mind a Rossi though.

1894c · Post by **1894c** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:27 am

Bill in Oregon wrote:1892, I blame you for starting me down this twisted path with your talk of hunting mulies with your 92 in .357!
My biggest dilemma will be whether to get the 16 or the 20-inch barrel. Then it is off to NOE for that 180-grain WFN mold.

Bill in Oregon -- don't blame me, blame this forum (ok blame me I can take it)...I have been thinking retirement and was looking for a caliber that I could, within reason, Mule Deer/hog/coyote hunt, would be cheap to reload, a caliber that I could find at Wal-Mart, and recoil my wife can handle.

After searching the archives of this forum (and a few articles) I came to the conclusion that the .357 Magnum would
be a good choice...BILL, just jump off the cliff... :)

Pre-Retirement cartridge choices:
1). .357mag/.38spl (rifle and pistol)
2). 9mm (auto-pistol)
3). .22cal (rifle and pistol)
4). Keeping reloading components simple.

7.62 Precision · Post by **7.62 Precision** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:16 am

Warhawk wrote: Same thing goes for hunting, it's all but impossible for me to silently, or even quietly chamber a round in an AR or SA handgun.

On the right side of your AR is a small, round button. It's officially called a forward assist, and most people say it is useless, but every sniper knows that it is actually a silent bolt-closer.

As far as the other stuff, it is just a matter of balancing training, experience, and practicality. An AR for me is the most practical system - I have trained and fought with that system. It mounts optics easily and carries easily at the ready on a sling, reloads fast, and has a good magazine capacity.

However, I like leverguns most, and I am also very quick and comfortable with them. AR is my first choice for defense against humans. Against animals - depends on the situation whether I carry an AR or a lever gun.

However, an AR is not practical for legal reasons in some places, and my smaller children can run a lever gun when they don't have the strength to charge an AR.

If you have not really trained with an AR (and don't confuse simple range time with training) then you will likely be more effective with a lever gun that you are comfortable with.

firefuzz · Post by **firefuzz** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:16 am

I recently got to handle one of the new BrazTec Rossi '92's in 44mag with a 24" barrel that a buddy of mine bought off GunBroker slightly used. The previous owner had installed Steve's safety plug and ejector spring and maybe done some polishing of the internals so I can't really comment about how smooth the gun was out of the box, but it was plenty smooth when Bob got it. I would say that the wood to metal fit was several steps above what I expect on a Rossi, on par with my Miroku's and Uberti's....excellent throughout the gun and accuracy was fine, less than 2" from the bench with iron sights, (and aging eyes) at 100yds with both 200 and 240 grain factory ammo we had lying around.

I grew up with mainly lever and pump guns so I'm pretty much at home with them in my hands, but if things turn dark I'll be reaching for my AR15 if given a choice. Back in the mid-70's, Uncle Sam's Army insisted that I become intimate with the M16A1, and I bought my first of many AR's two days after receiving my DD214. Although I never had to fight with one, I've road many a mile in a patrol car with one beside me and can only wish I had back half the rounds I've fired training with one. I agree wholeheartedly with 7.62 Precisions post about AR's and their versatility and virtues as a defensive arm, and with the market being temporarily glutted and prices lower than I've seen them since the early 80's I think good advice would be to pick one, or more, up now because this condition isn't going to last forever.

Having said that I'm not going to throw down the lever gun in my hands, until it's empty, to pick up an AR if someone's shooting at me.

Rob

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:06 am

1892 wrote:
Bill in Oregon wrote:1892, I blame you for starting me down this twisted path with your talk of hunting mulies with your 92 in .357!
My biggest dilemma will be whether to get the 16 or the 20-inch barrel. Then it is off to NOE for that 180-grain WFN mold.
Bill in Oregon -- don't blame me, blame this forum (ok blame me I can take it)...I have been thinking retirement and was looking for a caliber that I could, within reason, Mule Deer/hog/coyote hunt, would be cheap to reload, a caliber that I could find at Wal-Mart, and recoil my wife can handle.

After searching the archives of this forum (and a few articles) I came to the conclusion that the .357 Magnum would
be a good choice...BILL, just jump off the cliff...

Pre-Retirement cartridge choices:
1). .357mag/.38spl (rifle and pistol)
2). 9mm (auto-pistol)
3). .22cal (rifle and pistol)
4). Keeping reloading components simple.

I like your thinking

N.

jazman · Post by **jazman** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:25 pm

My NKJ .357 Trapper is still pretty much my favorite long gun; get one and you will not regret it.

Bill in Oregon · Post by **Bill in Oregon** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:27 pm

Thanks to my enabling brethren here, I ordered a 16-incher with big loop from Bud's, and a DVD, spring and follower from Nate Kiowa Jones.
Now, in the event of a sudden divorce, who will offer a couch to sleep on?

7.62 Precision · Post by **7.62 Precision** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:38 pm

In exchange for a barely used 16" Rossi 92? How long would you need the couch?

MacEntyre · Post by **MacEntyre** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:43 pm

I have an early Rossi Puma 92 in 45 Colt with 24" half octagon barrel. I put a Lyman #2 tang sight on it. It's a great shooter.

The only problem I have with it is the barrel length... would prefer to have a 20" barrel or shorter, but it would look funny with a short round section at the end of the octagon.

Warhawk · Post by **Warhawk** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:35 pm

MrMurphy wrote:And that's why everyone has their favorites, Warhawk.....

I'm the exact opposite. While I like leverguns, I "grew up" on bolt action military rifles, and am most comfortable hunting with a bolt gun.

I've spent my entire adult life with the M16 family of weapons, and the only reason I'm not carrying one on duty at the moment is I have to wait for the next qualifying class in a few weeks. So to me, in a high stress situation (among many) having an M4 or M16 at hand is completely natural. While I'd do fine with a lever, having spent nearly 19 years with an M16 or AR close by means I know what I reach for first....

I still wouldn't mind a Rossi though.

I'm very familiar with bolt guns too, but they are kind of like plastic pistols to me, a tool without any soul.

I was Air Force, we barely got enough firearms training to know which end the round came out of. Many years later I got into the ARs pretty heavy, and built 12-15 of them. I never really warmed up to the 223 cartridge, too much time spent reading Elmer Keith in my youth I suppose.

My three favorite types of firearms are Smith & Wesson revolvers, leverguns, and side by side shotguns.

Warhawk · Post by **Warhawk** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:38 pm

7.62 Precision wrote:
Warhawk wrote: Same thing goes for hunting, it's all but impossible for me to silently, or even quietly chamber a round in an AR or SA handgun.
On the right side of your AR is a small, round button. It's officially called a forward assist, and most people say it is useless, but every sniper knows that it is actually a silent bolt-closer.

As far as the other stuff, it is just a matter of balancing training, experience, and practicality. An AR for me is the most practical system - I have trained and fought with that system. It mounts optics easily and carries easily at the ready on a sling, reloads fast, and has a good magazine capacity.

However, I like leverguns most, and I am also very quick and comfortable with them. AR is my first choice for defense against humans. Against animals - depends on the situation whether I carry an AR or a lever gun.

However, an AR is not practical for legal reasons in some places, and my smaller children can run a lever gun when they don't have the strength to charge an AR.

If you have not really trained with an AR (and don't confuse simple range time with training) then you will likely be more effective with a lever gun that you are comfortable with.

See my previous post, I like the AR platform, lots of fun to shoot. But I guess I read too much Elmer Keith. My favorite handgun is a four inch S&W 44 Magnum, and my most often used big game rifle is a 338 win mag. (Although I haven't fired it in years).

MrMurphy · Post by **MrMurphy** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:40 pm

I was also Air Force......the guys who got a lot of guns, and a while never enough rounds to train as much as we'd like, far, far more than the rest of the USAF (probably all put together).

We trained (dry) at least 2 hours per day on a good day, 1 hour per day on a busy day, and patrolled the rest of the time.

Toss in Army ROTC time, civilian training time, etc....i've probably got more rounds through the AR series than any other weapon on earth that isn't belt-fed, at least for myself.

I wouldn't turn down a 92 in an emergency, but it would be about fifth on my list of things to pick up.

For angry bears it'd be a toss up between the 870 with slugs and a .45-70 personally.

Warhawk · Post by **Warhawk** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:15 pm

I was an aircraft maintenance troop, F-15 avionics. After firing an ancient Colt AR-15 in basic with a 22 adapter, we had to "qualify" once a year with the M16 to maintain our deployment ready status.

I did get to qualify with the M-60 at Bitburg, brand new NCO and I got stuck with security police augmentee duty. But It allowed me to shoot the M-60. I was also qualified with the S&W 38 revolver.

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:36 am

Warhawk wrote:I . I was also qualified with the S&W 38 revolver.

I think your the madman who , with a random post on AR15.com, turned me onto that gun shop in Lewisville TX who cost me $800 bucks plus shipping

--- I am now getting re-aquainted with the S&W 38 revolver too as a result (i bought 4 model 64's --eek )

Great results, and great people to deal with

7.62 Precision · Post by **7.62 Precision** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:58 am

MrMurphy wrote: For angry bears it'd be a toss up between the 870 with slugs and a .45-70 personally.

.45-70, .50 Beowulf, OR . . . . .454 in a model 92!

Warhawk · Post by **Warhawk** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:11 am

Streetstar wrote:
Warhawk wrote:I . I was also qualified with the S&W 38 revolver.
I think your the madman who , with a random post on AR15.com, turned me onto that gun shop in Lewisville TX who cost me $800 bucks plus shipping --- I am now getting re-aquainted with the S&W 38 revolver too as a result (i bought 4 model 64's --eek )

Great results, and great people to deal with

Sporting Arms? Good folks for sure, does she still have that little bitty dog?

Elmer Keith got me hooked on Smith & Wessons a long time ago.

piller · Post by **piller** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:33 pm

My Rossi 92 in .480 has never once failed. It is smooth enough for me, but it is not as smooth as an older Winchester. No matter.

I can close the bolt on an AR very quietly as long as I can slide the charging handle backwards without much sound. Yes, the forward assist is used to seat the bolt fully forward and cause the lugs to cam into position so that it can fire. I can also use my Ruger P85 9mm very quietly. I usually keep it loaded with 1 in the chamber and the hammer down on safe. All I have to do is move the safety and start pulling the trigger. I have double action revolvers that can be used quickly, too. My pump action shotgun is probably the loudest of all my firearms to make it ready to defend my family with.

southfork · Post by **southfork** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:35 pm

Pillar, those Rossi 92's in 480 Ruger aren't easy to find are they? I don't think that they made too many of them. Have you done any big game hunting with yours? Any success?

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:51 pm

About the only things I would ever want to do/add to my 92 would be to make it a TD and thread it for a suppressor...

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:20 am

Warhawk wrote:You said something there that rings true with me, about being more confident with a good levergun than an "evil black rifle". I am far more comfortable with a levergun, especially in a high stress situation, probably in the dark, than I am with one of my ARs.

That's why if I have to go out to investigate something at night on our small farm, I grab this Rossi...

The only difference since the photo is I found a black colored flashlight, and lower 30mm rings with which to mount it.

It's one of three 'Night Scout' rifles I have made - Link to Night Scout thread

Here's a target I shot at 50 yards at midnight a few years back:

Old Ironsights wrote:About the only things I would ever want to do/add to my 92 would be to make it a TD and thread it for a suppressor...

I've not got a suppressor for 45 caliber, but my Mystic would go nicely on a 357 Mag, and I've thought about that. To keep it short and handy, I'd want to go the extra mile and get the barrel shortened so I'd have to do the 'SBR' paperwork unlike our Canadian brethren, but a 12" barreled 357 Mag would be just the ticket shooting 180 grainers at about 1000 fps.

Bill in Oregon · Post by **Bill in Oregon** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:51 am

AJ: Shooting targets at midnight? Just where in Hoosierland do you live?

piller · Post by **piller** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:32 pm

southfork wrote:Pillar, those Rossi 92's in 480 Ruger aren't easy to find are they? I don't think that they made too many of them. Have you done any big game hunting with yours? Any success?

I have shot a couple of wild pigs with it, and they were DRT. I did use it on a hybrid Water Buffalo/Cape Buffalo at Action Outdoor Adventures. That is the ranch near Hondo, TX that is used as a group hunt destination by 86er. I was using 400 grain Hornady JSP bullets and the penetration was almost all the way from left side to right side. I cracked a tooth on a bullet stuck in the inside of a rib. Getting the bullet out of the rib took a pair of pliers. I really like the .480 in the 92 since it is handy and slim. I can carry it easily and it holds 9+1, and it can be loaded or unloaded by the screw threaded plunger and follower part of the magazine. I can load it like a .22 or load it like a .30-30 and it is as accurate as I can possibly shoot. I did have to put a limbsaver recoil pad on it.

MacEntyre · Post by **MacEntyre** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:47 pm

southfork wrote:Pillar, those Rossi 92's in 480 Ruger aren't easy to find are they?

Used to be a Rossi 92 Trapper in Ruger 480 in my safe... then my father sold it. Wish he hadn't done that! I thought it would have a hard recoil, but it did not. I liked it a lot.

jdt · Post by **jdt** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:11 am

A little late to the discussion, but my 92 in 45 Colt has served me well. It WAS stiff out of the box. I got Steve's excellent video and did everything on there except I could not get the get the punch pin out of the ejector so I wasn't able to replace the spring. Ruined three punches trying. However, it is really smooth now. Much smoother than my Winchester '94 (but what isn't?) and it takes anything I feed it, including stuff my Winchester won't.

Only other problem was the rear sight was WAY off. I couldn't come close to hitting the target at first and it was a bear to get it to move. Finally after hitting it so hard that I feared I would knock it out completely, it moved just enough that it is almost right on now (1" left at 50 yards).

For the money it is a great buy and with some attention appears to be capable of becoming a great gun. The stock is some weird scratchy wood though and that safety on the top is an abomination.

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:38 am

Warhawk wrote:
I was an aircraft maintenance troop, F-15 avionics. After firing an ancient Colt AR-15 in basic with a 22 adapter, we had to "qualify" once a year with the M16 to maintain our deployment ready status.

At about the end of my 4-year hitch as a USAF aircraft maintainence troop, when it was first introduced into the US arsenal (1966), alsoI had to qualify with the M-16.

I really didn't like the then new-to-me plastic stock, which transmitted the "boing" of the spring inside, making it seem like a toy.

Since then, I won't touch an AR with a 10' pole.

I got into leverguns a few months after my discharge, and have always had at least one (usually 3-4) - but, since I'm an equal-opportunity shooter, also like/owned just about any other type of non-military firearm (except for the 1911 pistol, of course).

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AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:25 pm

jdt wrote:Only other problem was the rear sight was WAY off. I couldn't come close to hitting the target at first and it was a bear to get it to move. Finally after hitting it so hard that I feared I would knock it out completely, it moved just enough that it is almost right on now (1" left at 50 yards).

Consider using a Williams FP site. They are easy to install (I posted a thread here on it a couple years ago). They equate to about a 4x scope to me, in terms of increased accuracy versus regular 'open' sights anyway.

GoatGuy · Post by **GoatGuy** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:03 pm

Like my Rossi 92, .357 just fine. No complaints. Picked up some things from Steve, and therefore made it great instead of just very good.

GoatGuy · Post by **GoatGuy** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:19 pm

Like my Rossi 92, .357 just fine. No complaints. Picked up some things from Steve, and therefore made it great instead of just very good.