Civil War Medal of Honor.

cshold · Post by **cshold** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:16 am

http://www.history.army.mil/news/2014/1 ... shing.html

GonnePhishin · Post by **GonnePhishin** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:07 am

Interesting story but why now??

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:45 am

It not now, given that we cannot turn back time, when would be better?

These belated medals bring attention to the real history of what happened and, as such, seem to be more than deserving.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:15 am

The only tragedy is the insult conferred due to who is presenting the medal...

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:42 am

No insult at all. He is the President, plain and simple. Why demean the award in this way? It is about the recipient, not the master of ceremony.

Ditto to this man http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/15/us/adkins ... ?hpt=hp_t2

Amazing that such amazing people could go unrecognized for so long.

Ray Newman · Post by **Ray Newman** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:29 pm

Brent: well said.

cshold · Post by **cshold** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:46 pm

Ray Newman wrote:Brent: well said.

Agree.

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:05 pm

Agreed

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:15 pm

It is the CONGRESSIONAL Medal of Honor.. Not bestowed by the President..

Post by **Chuck 100 yd** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:47 pm

Yup !

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:52 pm

Buck Elliott wrote:It is the CONGRESSIONAL Medal of Honor.. Not bestowed by the President..

Yes, and it sounds like it was earned 'the hard way'. I am in no way demeaning the man's heroism.

Still, they could have Mickey Mouse hand his descendants the award and it would not take any more away from the recognition of his honor and bravery.

GonnePhishin · Post by **GonnePhishin** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:29 pm

No insult at all. He is the President, plain and simple. Why demean the award in this way?

Kinda hard to "respect" him when he has such utter contempt for America, the Constitution, the Republic, and our way of life.

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:41 pm

UncleBuck wrote:
No insult at all. He is the President, plain and simple. Why demean the award in this way?
Kinda hard to "respect" him when he has such utter contempt for America, the Constitution, the Republic, and our way of life.

Keep it to the medal winners, take the rest of it somewhere else - like the political forum.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:49 pm

Buck Elliott wrote:It is the CONGRESSIONAL Medal of Honor.. Not bestowed by the President..

Yep, the more he's "forced" to present, maybe he'll actually gain some understanding of what constitutes "service" above and beyond.

cas · Post by **cas** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:18 pm

It IS NOT "the Congressional Medal of Honor."

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:43 pm

I'd be looking for the name Cushing on Obama's list of campaign donors.

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:57 pm

cas wrote:It IS NOT "the Congressional Medal of Honor."

correct, the nomenclature is Just the "Medal of Honor" --- i think the "Congressional" part was inserted by Hollywood long ago --- but much like .45 LONG Colt , the nomenclature has persisted -------

Its kind of a funny game when i ask for something .45 Colt, and the salestard blurts back "45 Long Colt?" -- and i say - "No, .45 Colt" ---- and he/she will educate me that they only have items in 45 "Long Colt"

vancelw · Post by **vancelw** » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:54 am

Streetstar wrote:
cas wrote:It IS NOT "the Congressional Medal of Honor."
correct, the nomenclature is Just the "Medal of Honor" --- i think the "Congressional" part was inserted by Hollywood long ago --- but much like .45 LONG Colt , the nomenclature has persisted -------

Its kind of a funny game when i ask for something .45 Colt, and the salestard blurts back "45 Long Colt?" -- and i say - "No, .45 Colt" ---- and he/she will educate me that they only have items in 45 "Long Colt"

Hard to argue with her when the idiot gun companies and ammo companies call it that on the box and stamp it on the barrel.

I just bought an Uberti that has .45 LC stamped on the barrel. Go figure that you spend that much time and effort making a great reproduction gun.

On FB the question comes up often, "Can I shoot .45 Long Colt in my .454 Casull?"
I say no, but you can shoot .45 Schofield. 45 Government, .45 Colt, and .454 Casull in your .460 S&W. Then watch the fireworks. (oh, and .45 ACP if it will take moon clips)

Gobblerforge · Post by **Gobblerforge** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:06 am

AJMD429 wrote:The only tragedy is the insult conferred due to who is presenting the medal...

To tell you the truth, while the Marine that presented the flag off my father's casket to my sister last Friday did say something to the affect of "From the President", I gave it no weight. Our President had nothing to do with what was going on.
Gobbler

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:36 am

Gobblerforge wrote:
AJMD429 wrote:The only tragedy is the insult conferred due to who is presenting the medal...
To tell you the truth, while the Marine that presented the flag off my father's casket to my sister last Friday did say something to the affect of "From the President", I gave it no weight. Our President had nothing to do with what was going on.
Gobbler

Actually, that is the phrase that is traditionally used. "On behalf of our President and a grateful Nation..." It's been reported that he's asked that it not be used... but, I've only read of second hand accounts of that... nice to hear that may not be true. Condolences on your loss.

Gobblerforge · Post by **Gobblerforge** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:28 am

Thank you, Sir.

2LT Van Cott · Post by **2LT Van Cott** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:31 pm

We were taught to say "...on behalf of a grateful nation..." with no mention of the President.

firefuzz · Post by **firefuzz** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:30 am

The history of the Medal of Honor during the Civil War is quite interesting. Several were award then revoked years later by an oversight committee.

Rob

2571 · Post by **2571** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:41 pm

BrentD wrote:
UncleBuck wrote:
No insult at all. He is the President, plain and simple. Why demean the award in this way?
Kinda hard to "respect" him when he has such utter contempt for America, the Constitution, the Republic, and our way of life.

Keep it to the medal winners, take the rest of it somewhere else - like the political forum.

Concur

horsesoldier03 · Post by **horsesoldier03** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:28 pm

cas wrote:It IS NOT "the Congressional Medal of Honor."

It is not referred to upon presentation as the Congressional Medal of Honor. However, Congressional is contained within the official website of their society.

http://www.cmohs.org/medal-symbolism.php

Bruce Scott · Post by **Bruce Scott** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:05 pm

"The Congressional Medal of Honor Society is so designated because that was the name it was given in an act of Congress that was signed into law by US President Dwight D. Eisenhower on August 5, 1958 as Title 36, Chapter 33 of the U.S. Code. The law authorizing the society has since been transferred to Title 36, Chapter 405 of the U.S. Code"
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_of_Honor
(Citation: 13)

And also:

"Though the correct title for our Nation's highest military award is the MEDAL OF HONOR, the organization that represents the men who wear it is the CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR SOCIETY, for it was established and chartered by the U.S. Congress."
From: http://www.homeofheroes.com/moh/history/society.html

BAGTIC · Post by **BAGTIC** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:54 pm

Buck Elliott wrote:It is the CONGRESSIONAL Medal of Honor.. Not bestowed by the President..

It is NOT the "CONGRESSIONAL" Medal of Honor. It is the "Medal of Honor", plain and simple.

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