P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
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P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
Doc AJ asked about P001, perhaps the original levergun chambered in 454 Casull. I say it may be the original but I don't know what years that Dick Casull made his own leverguns in 454 by making some improvements to some Miroku 1886 rifles. If memory serves, Dick made about 6 of them. I hope Buck will choose to embellish this story as I came to it much, much later.
I have been a member of this forum going back I think two versions and remember Jim Taylor would also make references to this rifle but its whereabouts were unknown. As luck would have it, this rifle managed to find its way into my hands through an interesting series of events.
I was a founding member of a very small forum called the 454 Casull forum. We were a small group but we had some good discussions related to the 454 in different types of rifles and handguns. On this forum was another member named Steve who once posted pictures of this beautiful stainless steel rifle in 454 Casull. I thought Steve was just a firearms collector but he was really a collector of “all things Casull” in reality. He came across the rifle somewhere for a fair price and bought it. He never shot it, he did not even know who had made it. In fact, he knew very little about it.
Well I drooled over the picture of that rifle for a LOOONG time! It was a few years later I was on Leverguns and Buck said something about making such a rifle. I realized then, that I had most likely found the man who had made this said rifle, and I was delighted to tell Steve about it, and tell Buck that I knew where his rifle was (in Alaska!)
Steve and I had become friends through the Casull forum, and his father still lived in the mid-west here in the good ol' USA. Steve and I made arrangements for him to ship the rifle to Colorado to David Torkelson, a member of the Shootists and one of the founders of the Friends of Billy Dixon Ultra Long Range Shooting Facility (which I will again shamelessly plug here: http://www.gunblast.com/AndyTuttle_FOBD.htm
The rifle was waiting for me there. The rifle was still in very good condition but the wood had shrunk some due to age. Also I found it did not cycle correctly at all. I showed Buck pictures of the receiver and he pointed out some additional holes that had been drilled into it. So somewhere through its multiple owners, someone had damaged it in trying to modify it. After paying for the shipping costs myself and after Steve and I going to so much work to get the rifle here, I hated not to shoot it. I found it appeared to be safe when fired in single action. I would manually insert a cartridge into the chamber and close the action. The action was still tight and this seemed to work fine.
I shot it maybe 6 times. What a nice rifle it was! It had a lovely octagon barrel that balanced the rifle beautifully. It was super steady when shot off-hand but not overly muzzle heavy, had a lovely trigger, and seemed quite accurate and easy to shoot. After about 6 shots I was examining the rifle again (I did this every couple of shots) and noticed the wood was splitting on the forearm (shades of the 454 Puma curse?) so I decided to stop shooting it.
Overall, I was a bit disappointed in the condition the rifle was in due to the unsafe cycling of the action (the cartridges could literally flip over within the receiver at times). But the quality of the rifles construction and workmanship was readily apparent. Its a shame that it was not able to be put into mass production. Buck came very close to that happening but in the end the deal fell through.
That being said, I am probably one of only a few people in the whole world who has shot this rifle. In that sense, I am extremely lucky. I'm sure the rifle is back up in Alaska with its owner. Maybe some day, it will resurface once again.
Happy 4th of July gentlemen!!!!
Thanks for listening,
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Doc AJ asked about P001, perhaps the original levergun chambered in 454 Casull. I say it may be the original but I don't know what years that Dick Casull made his own leverguns in 454 by making some improvements to some Miroku 1886 rifles. If memory serves, Dick made about 6 of them. I hope Buck will choose to embellish this story as I came to it much, much later.
I have been a member of this forum going back I think two versions and remember Jim Taylor would also make references to this rifle but its whereabouts were unknown. As luck would have it, this rifle managed to find its way into my hands through an interesting series of events.
I was a founding member of a very small forum called the 454 Casull forum. We were a small group but we had some good discussions related to the 454 in different types of rifles and handguns. On this forum was another member named Steve who once posted pictures of this beautiful stainless steel rifle in 454 Casull. I thought Steve was just a firearms collector but he was really a collector of “all things Casull” in reality. He came across the rifle somewhere for a fair price and bought it. He never shot it, he did not even know who had made it. In fact, he knew very little about it.
Well I drooled over the picture of that rifle for a LOOONG time! It was a few years later I was on Leverguns and Buck said something about making such a rifle. I realized then, that I had most likely found the man who had made this said rifle, and I was delighted to tell Steve about it, and tell Buck that I knew where his rifle was (in Alaska!)
Steve and I had become friends through the Casull forum, and his father still lived in the mid-west here in the good ol' USA. Steve and I made arrangements for him to ship the rifle to Colorado to David Torkelson, a member of the Shootists and one of the founders of the Friends of Billy Dixon Ultra Long Range Shooting Facility (which I will again shamelessly plug here: http://www.gunblast.com/AndyTuttle_FOBD.htm
The rifle was waiting for me there. The rifle was still in very good condition but the wood had shrunk some due to age. Also I found it did not cycle correctly at all. I showed Buck pictures of the receiver and he pointed out some additional holes that had been drilled into it. So somewhere through its multiple owners, someone had damaged it in trying to modify it. After paying for the shipping costs myself and after Steve and I going to so much work to get the rifle here, I hated not to shoot it. I found it appeared to be safe when fired in single action. I would manually insert a cartridge into the chamber and close the action. The action was still tight and this seemed to work fine.
I shot it maybe 6 times. What a nice rifle it was! It had a lovely octagon barrel that balanced the rifle beautifully. It was super steady when shot off-hand but not overly muzzle heavy, had a lovely trigger, and seemed quite accurate and easy to shoot. After about 6 shots I was examining the rifle again (I did this every couple of shots) and noticed the wood was splitting on the forearm (shades of the 454 Puma curse?) so I decided to stop shooting it.
Overall, I was a bit disappointed in the condition the rifle was in due to the unsafe cycling of the action (the cartridges could literally flip over within the receiver at times). But the quality of the rifles construction and workmanship was readily apparent. Its a shame that it was not able to be put into mass production. Buck came very close to that happening but in the end the deal fell through.
That being said, I am probably one of only a few people in the whole world who has shot this rifle. In that sense, I am extremely lucky. I'm sure the rifle is back up in Alaska with its owner. Maybe some day, it will resurface once again.
Happy 4th of July gentlemen!!!!
Thanks for listening,
-Tutt
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Re: P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
That is a nice looking rifle.
Too bad it never went into production. That's the problem with this stuff, ideas are easy, engineering is harder, but finding a way to manufacture can be nearly impossible.
Too bad it never went into production. That's the problem with this stuff, ideas are easy, engineering is harder, but finding a way to manufacture can be nearly impossible.
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'Precision, it really was an easy rifle to shoot! By that I mean to say it "banged the gongs" effortlessly. The receiver length was just slightly shorter than an M1886 IIRC. The receiver was also made as one piece for the utmost in rigidity. I still wonder how they managed to machine the innards on that thing! I think this may be a difficult subject for Buck because it didn't turn out the way he wanted after putting his heart and soul into the project. But I still hope he will tell about it. It is still a very historic rifle and one of the earliest examples of the strongest levergun action ever made. -Tutt
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Yet another reason I hope I don't try to "act" like I know about guns.....I like to talk about them, and shoot them ok, but I don't really know about them. I can listen and learn.
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Re: P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
Blaine, I hope I haven't offended in some way. That was not my intent. One of my primary teachers in life taught me to not be shy about seeking out people who are experts in their field. Try to learn from the best. So that's what I do. I hope I haven't offended anyone. Sometimes I get lucky, and this was certainly one of those times where things just fell into place!
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Tutt, you have never offended me. You seem absolutely 100% honest in every thing that you post about without any ax to grind or impress folks. Like Sargent Joe Friday, just the facts and no embelishment of the facts.
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WOW thanks for the story & photos!!!!
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Tutt,
That's an interesting story on an interesting rifle. My question is why in the world would the builder of this fine rifle let it out of his hands? That baby would be a keeper in the truest sense of the word.
Not being an engineer, (Buck even told me that one time ) is the strength of the 86 action the reason it was chosen for the 454? Buck did say he twisted up a few 94's and 336's. I wonder how a scaled down 1895 would work.
Really cool to play with that. I would had to push a lot more than 6 rounds down that barrel. I would have duct taped the wood together and hope for the best!
BTW, what's this pelosi about you offending someone? I saw it as a post that was really cool, informative, extremely interesting and I personally thank you for sharing that with us. Thanks for putting in the time.----6
That's an interesting story on an interesting rifle. My question is why in the world would the builder of this fine rifle let it out of his hands? That baby would be a keeper in the truest sense of the word.
Not being an engineer, (Buck even told me that one time ) is the strength of the 86 action the reason it was chosen for the 454? Buck did say he twisted up a few 94's and 336's. I wonder how a scaled down 1895 would work.
Really cool to play with that. I would had to push a lot more than 6 rounds down that barrel. I would have duct taped the wood together and hope for the best!
BTW, what's this pelosi about you offending someone? I saw it as a post that was really cool, informative, extremely interesting and I personally thank you for sharing that with us. Thanks for putting in the time.----6
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Thanks for posting this. I hope the thread grows with more details. As an owner of the Big Horn Armory 89, I'm assuming there are many things in common, and some not, between the two leverguns. If the P001 would have been available, I probably would have had one of them instead, but life is short enough that I grabbed the one that became available first.
As an aside, even with the hefty price-tag on the Model 89, I wonder how they can make a profit. Until you're making something by the thousands, or tens-of-thousands, the cost-per-item stays pretty high, especially when you're talking precision machining.
That's probably why so many of us have been disappointed in the Marlingtons, and Rossi's - even with that kind of volume and corporate momentum, short-cuts are too tempting to avoid sometimes.
As an aside, even with the hefty price-tag on the Model 89, I wonder how they can make a profit. Until you're making something by the thousands, or tens-of-thousands, the cost-per-item stays pretty high, especially when you're talking precision machining.
That's probably why so many of us have been disappointed in the Marlingtons, and Rossi's - even with that kind of volume and corporate momentum, short-cuts are too tempting to avoid sometimes.
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Luck is really a matter of positioning... and it takes work to be so positioned. How'd you offend Blaine; take up tuba lessons and not ask him for advice?CowboyTutt wrote:Blaine, I hope I haven't offended in some way. That was not my intent. One of my primary teachers in life taught me to not be shy about seeking out people who are experts in their field. Try to learn from the best. So that's what I do. I hope I haven't offended anyone. Sometimes I get lucky, and this was certainly one of those times where things just fell into place!
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Well, it was not my intent to offend anyone and I hope I didn't. Doc AJ asked, and I felt he deserved an answer as he is about the most fair minded individual on this forum. I am no expert on handloading, except for maybe the small number of cartridges I load for, and those are pretty few because of my modest firearms collection. But I do try to learn the most I can about the cartridges I have in those chamberings, as few as they may be. People like Sixgun know ten times what I know overall when it comes to handloading because of his extensive collection of firearms and cartridges. I'm a wee bit player in comparison, but I'm perfectly OK with that. I guess you could say I'm a "specialist" and that's fine by me.
Sixgun, I hate to speak for Buck, but I happen to know he fell upon hard times and had to pawn P001 off. Buck's life has been a series of grave hardships, worst than most of us know, but he always seems to eventually bounce back!
My purpose in posting this was to answer Doc AJ's question but also to enlighten others that our Buck Elliot is the "real deal" and that his expertise is exceptional! Most of us don't know about it from a curiousory reading of this forum, but Buck's expertise is really quite stunning.
So I guess in the end I was trying to answer Doc AJ's question, and pay my respects to Buck and his accomplishments. He's knows his stuff. His life has been extremely hard, but he still knows his stuff!
That was all I was trying to say, even if I sound redundant.
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Sixgun, I hate to speak for Buck, but I happen to know he fell upon hard times and had to pawn P001 off. Buck's life has been a series of grave hardships, worst than most of us know, but he always seems to eventually bounce back!
My purpose in posting this was to answer Doc AJ's question but also to enlighten others that our Buck Elliot is the "real deal" and that his expertise is exceptional! Most of us don't know about it from a curiousory reading of this forum, but Buck's expertise is really quite stunning.
So I guess in the end I was trying to answer Doc AJ's question, and pay my respects to Buck and his accomplishments. He's knows his stuff. His life has been extremely hard, but he still knows his stuff!
That was all I was trying to say, even if I sound redundant.
Regards to all,
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Well I, for one, am thankful for the post. In my line of work, I know very well how there are some issues, even great accomplishments, that don't turn out as planned, and people involved sometimes don't want to dredge them up to share with strangers.CowboyTutt wrote:My purpose in posting this was to answer Doc AJ's question but also to enlighten others that our Buck Elliot is the "real deal" and that his expertise is exceptional! Most of us don't know about it from a curiousory reading of this forum, but Buck's expertise is really quite stunning.
So I guess in the end I was trying to answer Doc AJ's question, and pay my respects to Buck and his accomplishments. He's knows his stuff. His life has been extremely hard, but he still knows his stuff!
Nonetheless, I think there are likely lessons of all sorts that could benefit those of us who learn more about P001, so . . . I'll keep listening. . .
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Man oh man oh man oh man! What a fine piece of machinery! I believe that is just the action I need to make my leveraction 7mm Benchrest. Thanks much for the story and the pictures, Tutt.
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Don't sell yourself short Tutt. Trust me, (I ain't pokin' fun here), when you're not around here, you're missed... as is Buck, and many others too numerous to mention. Askin' questions and makin' mistakes are the too most common way to learn. Some of us like the questions asked... as it gives us a opportunity to learn, although we may be a bit too embarrassed to ask. (I'm using "us" and "we" as all-encompassing, not specifically you & me... ).
Between Buck & W. Iorg I learned more about the .375 Win on this forum than reading everything I could that been published in print... Specifically, it's history. I didn't even have to ask... all I had to do was a search... too bad so much of that period in the forum's history has been lost.
Between Buck & W. Iorg I learned more about the .375 Win on this forum than reading everything I could that been published in print... Specifically, it's history. I didn't even have to ask... all I had to do was a search... too bad so much of that period in the forum's history has been lost.
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Some rifles just shoot, don't they? It's like they are tied into your thoughts and put the bullets where you want them to go, and even holdovers seem instinctive. The .348 in the Model 71 is that way for me.CowboyTutt wrote:'Precision, it really was an easy rifle to shoot! By that I mean to say it "banged the gongs" effortlessly. The receiver length was just slightly shorter than an M1886 IIRC. The receiver was also made as one piece for the utmost in rigidity. I still wonder how they managed to machine the innards on that thing! I think this may be a difficult subject for Buck because it didn't turn out the way he wanted after putting his heart and soul into the project. But I still hope he will tell about it. It is still a very historic rifle and one of the earliest examples of the strongest levergun action ever made. -Tutt
You can see how carefully the rifle was planned and constructed. It is very well executed, especially for a prototype, from what i can see in the photos.
Is it known now who has this rifle?
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Why in the world would you think I'm offended?.....Dude...that's twice this week>...CowboyTutt wrote:Blaine, I hope I haven't offended in some way. That was not my intent. One of my primary teachers in life taught me to not be shy about seeking out people who are experts in their field. Try to learn from the best. So that's what I do. I hope I haven't offended anyone. Sometimes I get lucky, and this was certainly one of those times where things just fell into place!
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Thanks for the story Tutt. That is just what keeps me hangin' around here. No experience with the 454 except for having spent a winter in Utah working with some guys who were regularly stretching the frames of old Colts with triplex loads and 5 shot cylinders. It seems to be where they were headed back in '60.
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I love the '86 but am down to just my old 45-90. Ruefully, I traded off my Browning 45-70 that had the barrel cut down to about 18 inches. Didn't realize at the time it was my last 45-70. May be a Browning carbine in my future.
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Tutt,
That is a gorgeous rifle. Perhaps a bit of smithing by a gunsmith who knows his stuff can fix the action so it feeds correctly. I wouldn't be happy with it till I'd gotten it fixed.
In your first pic about an 1 1/2" off the end of the rifle muzzle, and then again on the last pic right above and forward of you hat brim there is a snow covered mountain peak. What mountain is that and where is it? Just curious.
Being a fan(atic) of most anything .45 Caliber I'd love to shoulder that rifle and give it a go.
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That is a gorgeous rifle. Perhaps a bit of smithing by a gunsmith who knows his stuff can fix the action so it feeds correctly. I wouldn't be happy with it till I'd gotten it fixed.
In your first pic about an 1 1/2" off the end of the rifle muzzle, and then again on the last pic right above and forward of you hat brim there is a snow covered mountain peak. What mountain is that and where is it? Just curious.
Being a fan(atic) of most anything .45 Caliber I'd love to shoulder that rifle and give it a go.
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Great post and Fine looking Rifle. Thank You.
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Great post Tutt.
Nice rifle. I'd never seen or heard of it before so I found this very interesting. It is very well proportioned. A lot of work went into making that rifle. A one-off from a machining and engineering standpoint is never easy.
Nice rifle. I'd never seen or heard of it before so I found this very interesting. It is very well proportioned. A lot of work went into making that rifle. A one-off from a machining and engineering standpoint is never easy.
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Extremely interesting post. It never ceases to amaze me what talents people have. That is a great looking rifle.
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Thanks for posting some pics, I've seen pictures of that gun several times, and they are always inspiring to see. I do surely wish Buck had been able to get the gun produced, and been able to realize some true benefit from it. It was a great idea, the intermediate sized action for the 454.
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Ya done good tutt. Don't sweat the small stuff.
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Thanks Tom. Dad always said "don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things!"
Joe, I'm not sure of the name of the mountain but that's in Hotchkiss, CO and the mountain is north east of that.
I tried to get the owner to take it too a gunsmith for repair, but at the time he seemed very reluctant to do so. This was all some years ago so maybe he eventually did. I suspect its just sitting in a safe up in Alaska. -Tutt
Joe, I'm not sure of the name of the mountain but that's in Hotchkiss, CO and the mountain is north east of that.
I tried to get the owner to take it too a gunsmith for repair, but at the time he seemed very reluctant to do so. This was all some years ago so maybe he eventually did. I suspect its just sitting in a safe up in Alaska. -Tutt
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Re: P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
that's an amazing achievment and Buck has done something fine with that work. along with whomever else participated in the effort. must be a hoot to shoot.
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Great post Andy. You gave me some information that I didn't even know existed.
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Re: P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
Seems like the lever action equivalent of the .45 ACP Luger (though to be fair, Luger himself worked on those.....).
Interesting idea, didn't quite take off.
Interesting idea, didn't quite take off.
Re: P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
That's a good story and a fine looking rifle. Thanks for posting and I'll bet it was a hoot to shoot.
Re: P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
Tutt, is there a chance it's even for sale?
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Re: P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
If so, I'd really like to get it back..arjunky wrote:Tutt, is there a chance it's even for sale?
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Whoever has fiddled with it over the years didn't understand it well enough to keep it running.. Who knows what has been done to it..?
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Re: P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
If you have any info on who might have it, or who did have it, PM me, I would like to try to run it down. Maybe Buck could get his hands on it again . . .
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Re: P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
I lost track of the owner and don't know how to find him again. I might be able to find him through the old 454 Casull forum if its still on the web. He turned down many expensive offers for it and I don't think he would be interesting in selling it. -Tutt
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I did find the original thread where he posted a pic of Buck's rifle. I can't log on anymore to check my PM's to see if Steve Hoffine Jr's number is in there. His Dad is also Steve Hoffine and lives in Wyoming I think it was. Some nice eye candy here.
http://www.ezforums.org/454casull/forum ... PN=0&TPN=2
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http://www.ezforums.org/454casull/forum ... PN=0&TPN=2
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I'll be darned, I may have just found his Dad's phone number in Laramie, WY. -Tutt
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Re: P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
Buck I remember you making several mentions of that rifle and what went into it.
Thanks Andy for sharing that it is cool to hear a range report on it. Way cool on the phone number I hope it pans out.
Thanks Andy for sharing that it is cool to hear a range report on it. Way cool on the phone number I hope it pans out.
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Re: P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
Always love reading about the rifle and Bucks experiments....it is a beauty and thank you for sharing Andy.
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Re: P001: The Rifle That Buck Built
Looks like he is in Galena right now, or possibly Kenai?CowboyTutt wrote:I did find the original thread where he posted a pic of Buck's rifle. I can't log on anymore to check my PM's to see if Steve Hoffine Jr's number is in there. His Dad is also Steve Hoffine and lives in Wyoming I think it was. Some nice eye candy here.
http://www.ezforums.org/454casull/forum ... PN=0&TPN=2
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