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Stopped at a West Michigan gun shop to browse this afternoon, and spotted this 1990 made, 1894 AE, pre cross bolt safety, Trapper model, in 45 Colt, allegedly unfired.
It took me about a minute to justify buying it in my mind (my wife was waiting in the truck outside), and right after they dropped the price $20, I pulled out the blank check in my wallet.
Can't wait to get to the range and get rid of that "unfired" label .
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The only warning I can pass along is be careful and don't break the carrier. They are pot metal and break real easy......virtually unobtainable.
Happy shooting ---6
Sixgun,
Not sure if my carrier is pot metal. Here is a photo of my 1990 45 Colt compared to the bottom photo of my 1963 32 Special. Can't really tell the difference. Can you shed some more light on this issue.?
Trooper Joe,
I believe yours is pot metal. The reason I said this was because last month, I was installing a large loop lever for a guy with the exact rifle as yours. I barely stressed the carrier and it broke in two. I searched and searched to no avail. The carrier for the 30-30 is available but not the one for the 45 Colt/44 mag. Guys on different discussion forums said they had the same problem and the only solution is to have it argon welded which is being done as I write this.
Just be careful when taking the gun apart or if you get a cartridge jammed in there. I was a little rough and I caused it myself.=----------Sixgun
I will keep these notes. I don't use my rifles for cowboy action shooting and I rarely take my 94's or 92's apart.
We have a very high end gunsmith firm in Grand Rapids (Bachelder Master Gunmaker Inc) who also serve as a Winchester authorized repair facility. I will talk to them about this issue (sort of proactive). Love this gun. It seems to have a nice crisp trigger let off even though it has a rebound hammer.
It is much nicer than my other 5 Miroku Winchesters were that also had the rebound hammer system (down to 2 of these Miroku's now).
The 1963 carrier may look similar to the one in your 1990 but it's totally different.
The 1963 carrier is forged and machined. The 1990 is a casting.
I don't know if all of them are fragile or just some. The only ones I've personally seen to break are a couple from 357 mag 94AEs. After examination it was clear they were defective castings from the start.
I don't think the metal used is pot metal, I think it's real steel. I just think USRAC got sloppy with their QC and left the defects in the production run.
I have a 1985 Vintage 94AE in .45 Colt that has fired well over 3,000 rounds, cycled more and gone through many many dry cycles. So far there has been no problems.
Perhaps I should keep my eyes open for a spare carrier just to be safe.
Joe
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J Miller wrote:The 1963 carrier may look similar to the one in your 1990 but it's totally different.
The 1963 carrier is forged and machined. The 1990 is a casting.
I don't know if all of them are fragile or just some. The only ones I've personally seen to break are a couple from 357 mag 94AEs. After examination it was clear they were defective castings from the start.
I don't think the metal used is pot metal, I think it's real steel. I just think USRAC got sloppy with their QC and left the defects in the production run.
I have a 1985 Vintage 94AE in .45 Colt that has fired well over 3,000 rounds, cycled more and gone through many many dry cycles. So far there has been no problems.
Perhaps I should keep my eyes open for a spare carrier just to be safe.
Joe
That makes sense Joe. If you can argon weld them and they then work, you are probably repairing the defective part. (I noticed during a web search, that a number of people have had them welded after breaking.) Thanks for the encouraging news about your gun. I know I won't put that many rounds through mine and I plan on being very careful with this carrier.
PS My new AE is so nice, I would like to think that the factory person building it may have taken extra care with the parts and fitting. As I mentioned, it has the nicest trigger let off of any rebound hammer job I have owned.
Mine's from '85; first production of the 94 in .45. As yours wears a bit from cycling and use, it will get smoother and slicker and will move to the top of your list of favorites.
I'm glad I didn't find that! I'm already broke...
I have a trapper in .30-30 and an 1892 24" rifle in .45 Colt and that rifle would fit nicely between them
Jealous
I DID score a Like New Browning SRC on the AR forum a couple of weeks a go I believe it, too, was unfired. I will soon rectify that as well.
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