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1. A testimony to the INGENUITY and CREATIVITY of man, when it comes to getting around both mechanical realities and stupid, arbitrary 'rules' invented by other men. and
2. A testimony to how STUPID men are, in that they actually elect people like that, and endow them with the power to make rules like that, and
3. A testimony to how NONVIOLENT men are, in that they haven't physically removed any and all of the legislators and/or police from office who support such laws.
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AJMD429 wrote:
3. A testimony to how NONVIOLENT men are, in that they haven't physically removed any and all of the legislators and/or police from office who support such laws.
AJMD429 wrote:
3. A testimony to how NONVIOLENT men are, in that they haven't physically removed any and all of the legislators and/or police from office who support such laws.
Yet.
Violence would prove their point, at least temporarily. The re-calls in CO were effective, and have anti-gun pols "stuffing" in their pants.....Having said that, I'll be dead after they kick in my door...I won't put up with that.
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There have been a few " compliant " versions I've heard about. I think that the " low capacity mag " in the picture is just standard issue for to comply with current nys laws.
A Stag Arms compliant version, IIRC. I think ALL the mfgr's should "RECALL" all "non-compliant arms from the LE agencies & NYS Nat'l Guard units that've purchased from them and replace them with a "compliant" version.
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Griff wrote:A Stag Arms compliant version, IIRC. I think ALL the mfgr's should "RECALL" all "non-compliant arms from the LE agencies & NYS Nat'l Guard units that've purchased from them and replace them with a "compliant" version.
I think that the citizens of New York ought to crowd their legislature up against a statehouse wall and see if these reduced capacity sporting arms work as well as standard capacity arms.
Government office attracts the power-mad, yet it's people who just want to be left alone to live life on their own terms who are considered dangerous.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
There is a fellow near me in Tampa named Mark Serbu who owns Serbu Firearms. He makes a semi auto .50 cal that he sells. A while back NYPD wanted to buy one of his .50s for their SWAT team. Mark refused the sale. He said he wouldn't sell one of his rifles to any agency in a state where a private citizen couldn't own one.
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Griff wrote:A Stag Arms compliant version, IIRC. I think ALL the mfgr's should "RECALL" all "non-compliant arms from the LE agencies & NYS Nat'l Guard units that've purchased from them and replace them with a "compliant" version.
I think that the citizens of New York ought to crowd their legislature up against a statehouse wall and see if these reduced capacity sporting arms work as well as standard capacity arms.
Fred,
I can tell you given the new laws on the books your statement above could land you in big trouble,even if you live in another State.Homeland Security has its latest laws that deal with just as such. To post that even if you were joking and on a public forum leaves me with some serious questions about your present mental status ??
Rusty wrote:There is a fellow near me in Tampa named Mark Serbu who owns Serbu Firearms. He makes a semi auto .50 cal that he sells. A while back NYPD wanted to buy one of his .50s for their SWAT team. Mark refused the sale. He said he wouldn't sell one of his rifles to any agency in a state where a private citizen couldn't own one.
Good for him. I agree, the Police and National Guard (and other State Agencies) should not be allowed to own anything that a private citizen is not allowed to own. Well, I could back off from the field artillery just due to the range it can be fired at. Most citizens do not have the access to enough land for one of those.
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There are 5 things on this gun, possibly 6, maybe even 7, that are now illegal in NY.
The sad part is, if they really wanted to stick it to you for those mags they probably could. Take the bases of them off and tape them together butt to butt, and you've got a 26-28 round magazine. Bad law, badly written.
piller wrote:Good for him. I agree, the Police and National Guard (and other State Agencies) should not be allowed to own anything that a private citizen is not allowed to own. Well, I could back off from the field artillery just due to the range it can be fired at. Most citizens do not have the access to enough land for one of those.
Well, if the 'ordinary citizen' were able to possess 'shoulder-fired arms', and the cannons and artillery and rockets and tanks and stuff were kept 'collectively' by the 'ordinary citizen' in local armories, under their collective and local authority, like the original National Guard, that would be a good recipe for a strong, stable, society. Unfortunately, the National Guard has become federalized, so is essentially the antithesis of the 'organized militia' it once served as. 'Gun Control' is now threatening to do the same to the 'unorganized militia'.
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Griff wrote:A Stag Arms compliant version, IIRC. I think ALL the mfgr's should "RECALL" all "non-compliant arms from the LE agencies & NYS Nat'l Guard units that've purchased from them and replace them with a "compliant" version.
I think that the citizens of New York ought to crowd their legislature up against a statehouse wall and see if these reduced capacity sporting arms work as well as standard capacity arms.
Fred,
I can tell you given the new laws on the books your statement above could land you in big trouble,even if you live in another State.Homeland Security has its latest laws that deal with just as such. To post that even if you were joking and on a public forum leaves me with some serious questions about your present mental status ??
Any legislature that would attempt to promulgate or enforce such a law simply is staging itself for a fight in high court.
Ever heard of the First Amendment?
A law that is abhorent to the Constitution is nullified at it's inception.
Go ahead and wave your thug buddies around like a flag. Dictate to me about what opinions I am permitted to have and express under your thug laws.
(Sorry, I just can't think of anything more respectful to your remark to close with)
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Government office attracts the power-mad, yet it's people who just want to be left alone to live life on their own terms who are considered dangerous.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
Griff wrote:A Stag Arms compliant version, IIRC. I think ALL the mfgr's should "RECALL" all "non-compliant arms from the LE agencies & NYS Nat'l Guard units that've purchased from them and replace them with a "compliant" version.
I think that the citizens of New York ought to crowd their legislature up against a statehouse wall and see if these reduced capacity sporting arms work as well as standard capacity arms.
Fred,
I can tell you given the new laws on the books your statement above could land you in big trouble,even if you live in another State.Homeland Security has its latest laws that deal with just as such. To post that even if you were joking and on a public forum leaves me with some serious questions about your present mental status ??
Any legislature that would attempt to promulgate or enforce such a law simply is staging itself for a fight in high court.
Ever heard of the First Amendment?
A law that is abhorent to the Constitution is nullified at it's inception.
Go ahead and wave your thug buddies around like a flag. Dictate to me about what opinions I am permitted to have and express under your thug laws.
**** you and the horse you rode in on.
Here, here.
Geez, Madman, just turn in all your firearms and be done with all your worrying. Them knives with pointy tips, too...they are next.
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My beef probably isn't with you, so I regret the flippant and perhaps insulting personal remark. It was bad form. You've brought a great deal to the board and your input on the subject is appreciated, whether I tend to agree or not. More and different input is generally good, and serves all who consider the ideas put forth, for better or worse.
While my response was inappropiately expressed in this forum, it was not a knee jerk reaction.
I have a true and deep seated contempt for entities and people who believe that they are in the right to tell people to hold their tougue or have the Nazis sent to their door.
Government office attracts the power-mad, yet it's people who just want to be left alone to live life on their own terms who are considered dangerous.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
cas wrote:The sad part is, if they really wanted to stick it to you for those mags they probably could. Take the bases of them off and tape them together butt to butt, and you've got a 26-28 round magazine. Bad law, badly written.
The laws clearly mention continuous feeding.
If they go so far to ban these magazines because you could somehow fabricate a 26 or 28 round magazine out of their parts, then they will have to make sheet metal, polymer, and wire spring stock illegal because magazines could be fabricated from that stuff. They would have to ban every magazine in existence.