You have one firearm to survive what is it?

Post by **Old Savage** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:25 pm

Well, a lot would qualify: 20 Ga 870, Marlin 45/70, 45 Colt Ruger or 44 of some description, 22 rifle, pistol cartridge rifle. Hmmm???

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:53 pm

If you Really think that all this "alien, zombie, bubble" stuff could ever happen, you probably deserve to be in the 90% of the Vanished...

It's been an interesting thread to read, but I see some imaginations too eager to take flight..

And I have to wonder about the sanity of some board members..

It's also never considered kosher to arbitrarily change the rules or conditions, once the game has started... If you want a different scenario, start your own game...

rangerider7 · Post by **rangerider7** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:58 pm

9422 mag for me. I have killed most all game on the ranch but deer with it. It is very accurate and packs a nice punch. RR7

getitdone1 · Post by **getitdone1** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:41 pm

rangerider7 wrote:9422 mag for me. I have killed most all game on the ranch but deer with it. It is very accurate and packs a nice punch. RR7

rangerider,

That's a real good one. I wouldn't want to but for survival I'd have to add a scope.

I had that gun in 22 LR and I want it in 22 mag RF. One of the best of the best.

I think it beats the Marlin 39s I've had lots of experience with--and that takes some doing!

Don

jeepnik · Post by **jeepnik** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:48 pm

Hmm, with that many folks gone, including much of the military, I'd take just about anything cuz I'm gonna be able to pickup whatever else I might need. Battlefields (I'm assuming the 90% of gone folks had a few that fought back, what was it Pullman said in Independence Day, "We will not go quietly into the night") are messy places littered with all sort of goodies. Heck, I might even find some alien weapons and put them to good use. One never knows.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:47 pm

I think the Savage M24 is a good choice. New ones like the one here look to be only available in .410 under 22lr or 22mag.

However, used guns are more caliber diverse.

22LR/20 Gauge (My choice)

.22WMR/20 Gauge

.22 Hornet/20 Gauge

.222 Rem/20 Gauge

.30-30/20 Gauge

.22 Hornet/12 Gauge

.222 Rem/12 Gauge

.223 Rem/20 Gauge

.223 Rem/12 Gauge

.30-30/12 Gauge

.357 Mag/20 Gauge

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:15 pm

I'd like to find a .357/20ga ...

Old Time Hunter · Post by **Old Time Hunter** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:40 pm

Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:I think the Savage M24 is a good choice. New ones like the one here look to be only available in .410 under 22lr or 22mag.

However, used guns are more caliber diverse.

22LR/20 Gauge (My choice)

.22WMR/20 Gauge

.22 Hornet/20 Gauge

.222 Rem/20 Gauge

.30-30/20 Gauge

.22 Hornet/12 Gauge

.222 Rem/12 Gauge

.223 Rem/20 Gauge

.223 Rem/12 Gauge

.30-30/12 Gauge

.357 Mag/20 Gauge

Yep...this would work...now I have to get one!

CowboyTutt · Post by **CowboyTutt** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:15 pm

Rather have one of these from CZ myself if we were going for the rifle/shotgun combo. I like the idea of a 308 and a 12 gauge.

http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/brn ... leshotgun/

Of the rifles I do own, my custom 454 Puma would be the one. I could probably easily find a 12 gauge shotgun of some sort.

-Tutt

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:47 pm

Thought a long time about this.
Went through a bunch of thoughts why this one, why that one ?
When the fog finally cleared for my needs here it will be what I already have.

This gun has proven to be in its 42 years of life 100% reliable and does so much.
Its light, short, fast shooting and handling, accurate.

My 1972 Ithaca Featherweight 20" smoothbore Deerslayer Deluxe 12ga.

And the following ammo

1666 rds of Winchester Super X #7 Birdshot
1666 rds of Winchester Super X 00 Buckshot
1666 rds of Winchester Super X Rifled Slugs

CowboyTutt · Post by **CowboyTutt** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:54 pm

Now that makes total sense to me!

-Tutt

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:58 pm

madman4570 wrote:And the following ammo

1666 rds of Winchester Super X #7 Birdshot
1666 rds of Winchester Super X 00 Buckshot
1666 rds of Winchester Super X Rifled Slugs

What'cha gonna have the extra 2 other rounds be. . .

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:03 pm

The same thing they are going to do with the rest of them.
Nothing.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:14 am

AJMD429 wrote:
madman4570 wrote:And the following ammo

1666 rds of Winchester Super X #7 Birdshot
1666 rds of Winchester Super X 00 Buckshot
1666 rds of Winchester Super X Rifled Slugs
What'cha gonna have the extra 2 other rounds be. . .

Two rounds for the house.....

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:59 am

Look at the pic of High Desert Hunter on the .45-70 thread................................. don't concentrate on him, look at the country..........
What am I going to do with a shotgun there?

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:21 am

AJMD429 wrote:
madman4570 wrote:And the following ammo

1666 rds of Winchester Super X #7 Birdshot
1666 rds of Winchester Super X 00 Buckshot
1666 rds of Winchester Super X Rifled Slugs
What'cha gonna have the extra 2 other rounds be. . .

ya, I did the quick 5000 / 3 deal with that .66 extra in each being tossed.

Thought close enough.
But, You are 100% correct, those two rds just might end up in time being very important.

So with that in mind thank you Sir, Give me another one of each 00 Buck and Rifled slug.

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:11 am

Even after reading all these replies, im still good with my choice of a 308 semiauto, --- i said a FAL or a hk91, But really -- any of em would do -----m1a's, BLRs , bolt rifles even. Its the cartridge thats most important
Versatile from the high desert to the deep woods. Maybe a bit much for small game, but indigenous people the world over routinely go for bigger game as it gives more of a return on investment for the calories you expend to take em down

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:55 am

I used to just say my Marlin Mountie however my 10/22 takedown with the 25 round mags is as accurate and portable. The Mountie is probably still higher 'cause it is more PC.

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:14 am

Mescalero wrote:Look at the pic of High Desert Hunter on the .45-70 thread................................. don't concentrate on him, look at the country..........
What am I going to do with a shotgun there?

did you look at the video I posted on the other thread....? can you really not get within 200 yards of the speed goats? that's with a smooth bore. with a rifled 10ga barrel you can get farther range than that....

but anyway, what is your one gun preference based on that proposition ?

Grizz

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:18 am

OK,
You are right, I am wrong.
But I am not going to drink the kool aid.

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:42 am

Mescalero wrote:OK,
You are right, I am wrong.
But I am not going to drink the kool aid.

OK, alrighty then. no kool aid for you.

WHAT IS YOUR ONE GUN SOLUTION ?

just curious

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:53 am

In the beginning of the post I said mini mauser in 6.5 Grendel.
Scout scope short, light,capable.

3leggedturtle · Post by **3leggedturtle** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:44 pm

Ok i'll play, centerfire 30/30 M94. Rimfire, it would be Henry 22mag have 23 bricks of it.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:13 pm

3leggedturtle wrote:Ok i'll play, centerfire 30/30 M94. Rimfire, it would be Henry 22mag have 23 bricks of it.

I'm sorry you've exceeded the 5,000 rounds of ammo limit... you must throw away your gun and protrate yourself before the aliens...

While they do their victory dance on yer noggin!

3leggedturtle · Post by **3leggedturtle** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:21 pm

Griff, I think you been driving too much, and need a vacation.

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:06 pm

Griff wrote:
3leggedturtle wrote:Ok i'll play, centerfire 30/30 M94. Rimfire, it would be Henry 22mag have 23 bricks of it.
I'm sorry you've exceeded the 5,000 rounds of ammo limit... you must throw away your gun and protrate yourself before the aliens... While they do their victory dance on yer noggin!

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:54 pm

Well let me see , the vierling idea suits me but I don't own one I do have several drillings one in 12-12 and 7x57R as well as a 16-16 7x57R . My third however in 16-16 and 10.75x65R Collath would probably be the better alternative as that one likes cast bullets quite a bit . So perhaps a drilling with quick detach claw mounts in 10 gauge 10 gauge and 444 Marlin would be about perfect for me as long as I have 1500 10 gauge hulls , 500 pieces of 444 brass , my PW rifle press and the MEC 600JR 10 gauge loader as well as six or seven bullet molds a goodly supply of H322 , SR 7625 , CCI 200's and any of the normal 209 primers . Ten or twelve bags of #4 and #8 shot along with may be 50 pounds of 0 buck should keep the ten gauge going . Oh yeah I left out maybe 100 pounds of wheelweight ingots .

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:26 pm

This one, just the way it is set up with the 2-7 Leupold and extra Ruger 25 round mags. It shoots CCI mini mags into little groups.-----6

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:35 pm

Six, mine has a silencer on it. Good choice.

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:50 pm

rjohns94 wrote:Six, mine has a silencer on it. Good choice.

Mike,
I've been kicking that around as my bud is Class 3 and he will sell me one for cost. My son tells me if you get a trust, you can file electronically and you can knock off 4 months of waiting time.---6

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:07 pm

It's definitely worth it!

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:37 am

Sixgun wrote:
rjohns94 wrote:Six, mine has a silencer on it. Good choice.
Mike,
ZI've been kicking that around as my bud is Class 3 and he will sell me one for cost. My son tells me if you get a trust, you can file electronically and you can knock off 4 months of waiting time.---6

We have a Class 3 manufacturers and sales license . And most of our folks get a trust . But it'd my understanding that they do that so st their demise the ATF can't just seize the item be it a silencer or a fully auto .

KiwiKev · Post by **KiwiKev** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:34 am

The reality is the firearms you need to survive are the ones you actually have. Just make sure you have the ability to reload or have a good muzzleloader. Perhaps the more primitive the rifle the better. A flintlock, a lot of powder and a good supply of flints.

Panzercat · Post by **Panzercat** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:41 pm

madman4570 wrote:After effects of what appears to be some type alien invasion that has reduced the populations by 90%
It appears they have done their deed will not be returning but now you have to deal with all issues that might occur for survival.
Nothing will be able to be imported or exported in or out of your state and things given that fact might get a little hairy.
No more China dealing you USA either
If you live in NYS you must stay in NYS etc.
Also they took 90% of crops and livestock. And all petro products.

You see, these are my kind of cinema aliens-- They came, conquered with overwhelming force and strip mined the planet without resorting to mass land invasions and Will Smith/Jeff Goldblum exploitable plot devices. They probably dropped kinetic weaponry on us from orbit, eliminated most of the population centers before coming down to clean house.

Knee jerk reaction would be something like a baikal combo rifle for multi cal performance. With a few inserts, I could cover a wide range of popular rounds I'm bound to encounter. I would be well behind the power curve if it came down to resource competition, however. Single shot puts you at a marked disadvantage in engagements you can't carefully preplan. A 12 gauge pump could work. It's heavier, but that seems to be the least of our problems. Inserts would probably still work, even if you had to load them one by one and I'd be able to have a fair rate otherwise.

I'd love to go with mag/semi, but I'm worried about complexity of mechanism and replacement parts. Ammunition should be plentiful in 556 which is a decent all around cartridge... Unless we shot them all up or they were vaporized when most of the cities were razed. Stepping back in terms of tech and reliability, a lever gun in 30-30 certainly gives you lead downrange in an effective caliber. The mechanism is simplistic for repair and the ammunition should be easy to come by in some form or another.

So probably a 12ga or 30-30 lever if things were bad-bad. Otherwise an AR or some 556 flavored rifle if there was an abundance of material available for ammunition and replacement parts, ie; 90% of the population is dead, but the guns are still left over.

Lastmohecken · Post by **Lastmohecken** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:51 pm

I think I would just opt for a Custom Mauser Carbine with a 20 inch barrel, in .308 or even 30-06, Full length Manlicher Stock, Fixed Express sights perfectly sighted in to point of aim at 200yds and a good 2 x 7 variable scope with QD rings that return to zero every time.

However, if there were still laws being inforced regarding the carrying of weapons, etc that I had to contend with, then I might just opt for a high end Wilson Combat 5 inch 1911 with night sights, maybe. Besides, if I need a rifle, there will probably be some laying around.

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:38 pm

KiwiKev wrote: A flintlock, a lot of powder and a good supply of flints.

Don't you think you should have atleast some LEAD and a mold ? All the flints and powder in the world isn't going to do squat with out some kind of projectile !

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:02 pm

6pt-sika wrote:
KiwiKev wrote: A flintlock, a lot of powder and a good supply of flints.
Don't you think you should have atleast some LEAD and a mold ? All the flints and powder in the world isn't going to do squat with out some kind of projectile !

OP said we get 5000 rounds. That should be enough

horsesoldier03 · Post by **horsesoldier03** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:10 pm

Griff wrote:
madman4570 wrote:To mix it up some more let's say there is a big alien bubble not letting you leave your state which also has had the population decreased by 90%
If 90% of the population of Texas is gone... do you really think for ONE COTTON-PICKIN' SECOND that I'd only have ONE gun! 'Cause for cotton-pickin' sure as the sun rises in the East, I KNOW that ain't true!

ARE YOU NUTS?? I'd have more guns and ammo that I could possibly use up during the rest of my natural lifetime!

+1

With 90% of the population gone, there is no doubt that I will be guilt free when I decide to pilage their remains. WASTE NOT WANT NOT!

KiwiKev · Post by **KiwiKev** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:06 pm

The rule said ONE rifle and 5000 rounds. So I am going to have a Hawkens Flintlock with a tang sight. I am going to practice getting three shots off in a minute. That is going to be enough for meat and predators. For defense well - how did the homesteaders get on in 1848?

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:10 am

KiwiKev wrote: For defense well - how did the homesteaders get on in 1848?

the survivors adopted leverguns and barrels of ammo

KiwiKev · Post by **KiwiKev** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:07 am

You know Grizz it is a Leverguns forum after all. So it must be a Levergun. My .357 magnum in 24 inch octagonal. 5000 rounds of the best magnum I can get. Now I feel like a more secure Homesteader. The Hawkens I will leave in the barn for the wife (one gun each right, a one for each son - that makes four rifles and 20,000 rounds of ammo)

3leggedturtle · Post by **3leggedturtle** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:08 pm

KiwiKev wrote: The Hawkens I will leave in the barn for the wife (one gun each right, a one for each son - that makes four rifles and 20,000 rounds of ammo)

+1 on that line of thinking.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:17 pm

1894c · Post by **1894c** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:55 am

Marlin 336 .30W.C.F. and a .22cal. revolver or auto... :)

7.62 Precision · Post by **7.62 Precision** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:11 am

.22 rimfire, .380 , 9mm, .357Mag/.38SP, .40 S & W, .44 Mag, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .410, 20 gauge, 12 gauge, .223, .308.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014 ... r-options/

And it's a lever gun!

Now you don't need to argue about caliber!

7.62 Precision · Post by **7.62 Precision** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:15 am

Mescalero wrote:In the beginning of the post I said mini mauser in 6.5 Grendel.
Scout scope short, light,capable.

Good way to go. Good for long-range, close range, compact, light rifle wit compact, light ammo, good for moose, good for varmints, can be used for bear or bison if necessary. It is a great caliber for an all-around, all purpose rifle.

RIHMFIRE · Post by **RIHMFIRE** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:19 am

Pete44ru wrote:.

My choice would be a Vierling, with a .22Hornet bbl over two 20ga SXS bbls, and a .30-30 bbl underneath.

.

good choice....

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:31 am

7.62 Precision wrote:

.22 rimfire, .380 , 9mm, .357Mag/.38SP, .40 S & W, .44 Mag, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .410, 20 gauge, 12 gauge, .223, .308.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014 ... r-options/

And it's a lever gun!

Now you don't need to argue about caliber!

I like that. A lot. Make sure it has a .308 & .223 insert too and it would be about perfect.

Washita · Post by **Washita** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:00 am

I think I'd choose the same thing our forefathers did, the gun that really won the west. A single-shot 12 gauge. Light, handy, reliable as gravity and capable of taking anything on the North American continent, from tree rats to grizzlies.

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:52 am

7.62 Precision wrote:

.22 rimfire, .380 , 9mm, .357Mag/.38SP, .40 S & W, .44 Mag, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .410, 20 gauge, 12 gauge, .223, .308.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014 ... r-options/

And it's a lever gun!

Now you don't need to argue about caliber!

Boy do I like that!

Also I see in the Adapt and Survive section with your current good old reliable single presently owned.
Wow! Extremely cool.