Chiappa 1892 Ejection Question

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Chiappa 1892 Ejection Question

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I was recently gifted with a 16" Chiappa 1892 in 45 Colt.
Took it out to the range today.
It shot very well, hardly any recoil, eight on the money.

Here's the fly in the ointment.

Ejection. When I operate the lever, the casing moves about 3 inches in the air, and either comes right back at your face or drops into your hand.

Looking at the bolt there is a spring loaded ejector.

That seem to be always in the extended position, no movement to push the casing against the extractor.

Am I missing something here?

Some of my CAS friends sent me here, although I havent shot Cowboy for a while I did, quite a while back

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Welcome to the forum, you will soon get plenty of help with your gun.
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Thanks Jerry, that's what I'm hoping for!
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Welcome and take a number, We r working on a couple others right now. Maybe They got theirs fixed, haven't heard anything. Anyhow pull up a stump and sit a spell.
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In diagnosing your issue, I would take an empty case and with an open action, attempt to hook the case under the extractor and push it down so that it will enter the chamber. One of three things might happen. 1 - the case should have significant spring pressue against your intended maneuver. 2 - you're unable to hook the case under the extractor. 3 - spring pressure is very weak, allowing you to easily push down on the case and get it in the chamber.

1 - by significant, I guess I should say that a 6 year old will have trouble... but a 16 year old shouldn't... If that spring pressure is present, it shouldn't have weak ejection... so I doubt that is the issue... However, if you have trouble hooking the rim of the case under the extractor, the extractor is either broken, bent, mishappen or simply weak. A detailed inspection of the part should show which it is. Comparison with a good part is best. All I can say is that the extractor should have a sharp square notch under it. The bottom of the bolt face holds the cartridge UP and under the extractor. If that is missing, the case will have a hard time being held up under the extractor and the ejector will have little to press against. Some folks remove several loops from the ejector spring to keep brass from landing in the next county... some over-do that step. And, there is a collar that provides a contact point for the lever to work the spring... Some folks trim that collar, also sometimes too much.

If the ejector spring is weak, deformed or broken... disassembly is indicated for inspection. But, you can probably see if that's the problem by removing the bolt. IIRC, the Chiappa doesn't use a pin for the bolt/lever connection, but a screw. So don't beat on it! Outside that one anomoly, you can use the disassembly instructions to be found at Marauder's Rossi Disassembly Instructions. There may be a couple of other twists between the Chiappa and the Rossi, but the basics are about the same.

Good luck on your diagnosing. Let us know what you find.
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Hi Mike,
Welcome to the fire. I got your email too. That's a low SASS #. You and Griff joined about the same time.
Griff hit on most of the things to look for. But, as he said the Chiappa 92 is different in how it comes apart. The pin that retains the lever to the bolt being the most important. For the original Win 92 and the Rossi that pin is drifted out from the right side to the left. But, for some reason Chiappa decided to screw it into the bolt. So, as he said don't beat on it.
One other detail, once you get the bolt out, you will find the normally one piece ejector is two parts screwed together with the ejector spring and bushing on the stem.
I have seen enough of these separate/pull the threads so that may be your problem. Or, if the bushing is missing because it was lost on reassemble that could be the problem.
If that is not the case then look for any signs of the ejector binding.

BTW, whatever you do try to avoid take the loading gate out. Unlike the original and the Rossi which are threaded, the Chiappa has a tiny proprietary nut there on the inside that is easily lost.
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Thank you all for the info so far.

A conversation with Steve has led me to get on his Calender!
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Mike Grasso wrote:Thank you all for the info so far.
A conversation with Steve has led me to get on his Calender!
Good decison!
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Griff wrote:
Mike Grasso wrote:Thank you all for the info so far.
A conversation with Steve has led me to get on his Calender!
Good decison!
+1

He is a wizard on 1892's including the Chiappa. He did an early Armi Sport for me that was smooth as butter and when he was finished it would cycle even the extra long heavy weight cast loads in the 300 plus grain range.
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+2

I got my Chiappa '92 back from Steve two or three months ago, and it's almost like he sent back a different rifle. Now it's just as smooth as my Browning 1886.
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