Longmire - Hollywood Ignorance

JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:25 am

I am currently enjoying the first season of "Longmire" on TV via Netflix. I watch most series that way, after they are released to DVD/streaming media, so that I can see several episodes rather quickly and without advertisements.

The series is fairly entertaining - a cop with a murky past (that has yet to be revealed) - who is a Wyoming Sheriff who carries a 1911 type .45 and levergun, sports a cowboy hat, has a female deputy who is always overheated in the cold northern clime (because she shows up with her uniform shirt open more widely at the neck than one would expect of a deputy), one ambitious deputy who wants the Sheriff's job, and one rather insecure overweight dude who also fills out the the sworn staff. Enough characters to give the show flavor, if not complete credibility. But hey - that's Hollywood.

However, I like the main character and the rustic situations he faces as a rural lawmaker. Here's the problem, however. It appears that Hollywood used a technical adviser that was raised in - Hollywood. He is without a clue when it comes to even the most basic facts about firearms, it would seem. And the rest of the staff apparently did not catch the major mistakes. I guess this is part of the reason for the anti-gun hysteria: Hollywood types are now at the point that they are hopelessly uninformed about firearms.

Episode 1: The whole mechanism for the Sheriff dodging a "sniper" is because he is alerted by HIS tecchie person that he has 5 seconds between shots. That's because they find a .45-70 slug and therefore all .45-70's are only fired from a rolling block rifle. By the way, that's the kind of rifle a sniper uses, according to the tecchie in the story. And as one character states, snipers are to be feared because either they are professionals or cowards. .45-70 a sniper rifle??? Oh, boy.

Episode 3: The Sheriff delivers the widow a death message, in a place and at a time where they have time to compose themselves by sitting down (which any lawman should know - shock can take over). He does this while she is standing there, and by showing her his burnt watch. Come on, Hollywood. I tend to believe that top cops in the Midwest know better; or at least I hope so.

Episode 5: This is a good one. Longmire has his back to a guy and you hear the distinctive Crack-Ching of the slide of a shotgun bringing a shell into battery. The camera then pans on a dude holding - are you ready for this? - a double barreled shotgun. I'd sure like to know how he did that trick!

Alas, the generation of gun idiocy has now reach a point in Hollyweird where I'm having trouble even getting into their already far out fiction.

Now, if you can prepare yourself to overlook the moronic gun lore, the series is otherwise somewhat entertaining. I finished Episode 6. I guess now I'm kind of waiting to see what other lunacy will be displayed when a gun is presented.

bdhold · Post by **bdhold** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:35 am

I like Glenn Ford, James Stewart, and Gary Cooper.

jnyork · Post by **jnyork** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:36 am

I only watched the first one, the one with the 45-70 "sniper rifle" of which there are "only three of this type in the whole state". Then I started on one a couple or three weeks ago when a Montana woman had a handgun CCW, somehow the sheriff saw it and she said "dont worry, it's registered" . Turned off the program right there and went back to watching Geraldo, at least he knows what he's talking about.

SmokeEater2 · Post by **SmokeEater2** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:54 am

I learned a long time ago that if I was going to watch any TV show/movie that involved guns, military tactics,firefighting etc. that it didn't make any sense to sit there expecting accuracy in the story line.

This isn't anything new, the western movies of the 60's often had SAA's that fired 10-12 shots between reloading, Heroes could shoot a bad guy off a galloping horse at 100 yards with a derringer and suppressors made snub nose .38's almost completely silent.

It's from Hollywierd , If you're waiting for them to accurately depict things they know nothing about You're gonna' be waiting a L-o-o-o-o-n-g time.

2LT Van Cott · Post by **2LT Van Cott** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:33 pm

I watch Longmire for the same reason I watched the Lone Ranger and the Cisco Kid, it is fun fiction. The women aren't hard to look at either (nor is the other scenery).

gcburt · Post by **gcburt** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:41 pm

Might I suggest the books! Tough to get one of Craig Johnson's story lines into a 45 min script. I like the show, BUT I've read all of the books and REALLY ENJOYED them - everyone.

My wife is puzzled at my laughing out loud going through his books - Johnson's humor just adds to the read!!

SmokeEater2 · Post by **SmokeEater2** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:33 pm

gcburt wrote:Might I suggest the books! Tough to get one of Craig Johnson's story lines into a 45 min script. I like the show, BUT I've read all of the books and REALLY ENJOYED them - everyone.

My wife is puzzled at my laughing out loud going through his books - Johnson's humor just adds to the read!!

+1 ! I'm glad I'm not the only one who laughs out loud reading the Longmire books!

I've read the first 5 so far and I'm looking forward to the rest of them. Very enjoyable reading imo.

MrMurphy · Post by **MrMurphy** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:58 pm

The propmasters and the Foley artists (sound effects) are rarely in communication.

Thus you get something like the Stargate movie, where a guy with a 12 gauge pump shotgun is 'racking' the shotgun every single time he appears in a new shot even if he's just changing direction.

Not written in the script, the Foley guy got bored.

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:38 pm

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Sorry, but I can't bring myself to watch Longmire, at all - nevermind an entire show or season.

IMO, the show was made for absorption by wannabe's.

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JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:35 pm

Pete44ru, I guess it could said that anybody who watches or even reads any adventure fiction is a wannabe of sorts, since they are living out the adventure vicariously.

As for the negative effects of wayward Foley men - what ever happened to screening rooms and film editors? There were plenty of those fellows doing their jobs when I lived by 20th Century Fox Studios; some were my neighbors. Are they all still on strike?

K1500 · Post by **K1500** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:36 pm

Pete44ru wrote:.

Sorry, but I can't bring myself to watch Longmire, at all - nevermind an entire show or season.

IMO, the show was made for absorption by wannabe's.

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Lots of mistakes regarding firearms, geography, police procedures, etc. are made in Longmire. this makes it identical to almost every show on TV. If you go by mistakes made, there isn't anything left in the tube worth watching. It IS a fiction show.

I'm not sure what the wannabe comment means. Does watching MLB make someone a wannabe ball player? How about Gunsmoke fans, are they all wannabe marshals?

Longmire is a modern day western set in a beautiful location. The title character carries a 1911 and a Winchester 94, drives a vintage Bronco, and doesn't give a rip about being trendy. If there is a group of guys that should enjoy this show, I would think it would be the members of this forum. If you are going to enjoy any TV show, you need to be able to let the mistakes slide by. Count me as a fan.

pwl44m · Post by **pwl44m** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:53 pm

Just watched an episode of Gunsmoke. Mr. Dillon was looking for a Buffalo Hide trader wanted for murder. He was gazing the horizon when He was fired on2 times in reasonably rapid succession. Chester came running up and asked if He found Him. Mr. Dillon answered " yeah He is hid down there among those dead Buffalo with a Sharps". Huh
Perry
PS- that's the way I heard it.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:53 pm

I chuckle at the errors... both firearms and law enforcement... and promptly ignore them. Otherwise I'd be left to only watch reality TV... like "Naked and Afraid"...

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:42 pm

What is naked and afraid?

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:04 pm

Mescalero wrote:What is naked and afraid?

Discovery Channel show. "Naked and Afraid"

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:08 pm

Really?

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:12 pm

wow!
how strange!

Leverluver · Post by **Leverluver** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:43 am

The only movie/program I ever saw that had just about everything correct (period, usage, etc) related to firearms was Death Hunt with James Bronson and Lee Marvin. Every other one I ever saw had small mistakes to laughable blunders. I still wonder if my Sharps is broke cause it doesn't make the sound of an 1886 Winchester when I open the action like in Quigley. Don't tell me that Ton Selleck didn't know better. He just didn't have control over the final editing. Just some "Foley" idiot thought there was no drama in the silence of an action opening. Who knows, maybe Tom agreed.

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:01 am

K1500 wrote:Longmire is a modern day western set in a beautiful location. The title character carries a 1911 and a Winchester 94, drives a vintage Bronco, and doesn't give a rip about being trendy. If there is a group of guys that should enjoy this show, I would think it would be the members of this forum. If you are going to enjoy any TV show, you need to be able to let the mistakes slide by. Count me as a fan.

That's pretty much it. It's a TV show. At least it's not about gay high school students or lesbian cops or whatever.

JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:24 am

Nah, I'm afraid some of you guys just don't get it.

It's one thing to temporarily suspend reality to see, for instance, Schwarzenegger survive a fall from a crane to a railroad crate, with a broken arm, and then take out the villain in a fist fight. Or for a cowboy to shoot the gun out of a villain's paw, with his .45, at 100 yards.

That is called the "plausible impossible" by some studio types. It means that there is just enough appearance of reality that your mind doesn't mind making the jump for a temporary sojourn into unreality. I totally get that.

Let's face it, even so-called documentary war movies combine the actions of several characters into one hero, as in "Tora, Tora, Tora" - was incidentally hugely flawed as to what actually happened. Japanese planes flying between buildings 15 feet off the ground? I think that we all know that Hollywood has to stretch things to keep up the viewership. But Westerns and similar genre can be handled better than the very early days of 36-bullets-in-a-gun Tom Mix cowboy flix with just a little effort.

I'm talking here about really obvious, stupid things that don't allow you to accept the unreality, so it ruins the fiction; such as that episode where our hero escapes ONLY because he can run and dodge the sniper every 5 seconds, based upon the fact that no fast firing .45-70 rifles, e.g. leverguns, exist per his expert's information.

Another spoiler for me: That ridiculous Mission Impossible movie where two motorcycles hurtle at each other with enough collision force that both riders would have been killed mid-air.

Sure, TV isn't real. But stack a Tom Selleck movie against Longmire and you get a much better feel for a story. Or even any Gunsmoke episode. As I said, I like the character, locale, and situations - but the idiots who framed the episodes took a good thing and ruined it. I'll probably watch Season One to the end and then hang it up.

tom deinek · Post by **tom deinek** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:42 am

Never seen the show nor been a sniper.

But when I was in my 30's, I did shoot my Sharps rifle @ 1K meters with SOME accuracy. Never won a trophy.

Given that snipers fire one shot & then move & give the .45-70's accuracy, I think a sniper with a rolling block action could be beliveable.

If Hollywood were accurate, we'd have less to talk about on the 'net. I still talk about those 10-11 shot pistols they used in the 1950's westerns.

JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:16 pm

tom deinek wrote:Never seen the show nor been a sniper.

But when I was in my 30's, I did shoot my Sharps rifle @ 1K meters with SOME accuracy. Never won a trophy.

Given that snipers fire one shot & then move & give the .45-70's accuracy, I think a sniper with a rolling block action could be beliveable.

If Hollywood were accurate, we'd have less to talk about on the 'net. I still talk about those 10-11 shot pistols they used in the 1950's westerns.

I'll give this thread over to whomever after this comment. The thrust of the statement was not about the sniping capability of a slow-moving large caliber bullet; it was that the "expert" statements were so far afield that it ruined the episode - "you have 5 seconds between each shot, because this bullet is only fired by a rolling block," in effect. Yes, large bore big bullets can reach out and were once considered de facto long range weapons; but no, they are not what is called a sniper rifle in this century. A .338 Win Mag, yes. Even a scoped .223 or 7.62 Nato.

And it is not about shoot and move, it was about the hero dodging repeated shots, spaced 5 seconds apart, from the stationary(!) sniper with a rolling block .45-70, because he knew that there was no rifle made that could fire that bullet faster. The whole segment assumed that .45-70 leverguns don't exist in the 20th Century. That is clearly because the screenwriter(s) has/have no clue about this particular firearm and caliber. That's not Hollywood hyperbole, that is a screenwriter's laziness (no research) combined with ignorance. In other words, junk art.

You'd have to have seen the episode, I guess. Signing off this bit. The deceased equine has been flogged long enough.

And... welcome to the fire, Tom Deinek!

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:30 pm

The peripheral story details were enough to put me off, from the first.. Hollywierd ignorance seems to compound itself, if given free reign.. The producers, directors and crew seem to revel in twisting plausabilities as far as humanly possible..

Gun laws and firearms protocols in Wyoming and Montana are, and have been, far removed from the political madness of the sad state of Kalipornika.. Or New Yawk or New Joisey... And those are the states with the most available viewership..

Some day, after I wade thru the mountain of important reading I have lined out for myself already, I may sort thru the Longmire series, to see what the author's take on things might have been...

JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:11 pm

OK, in all fairness:

They surely must have fired their technical advisers in the firearms department, because Episodes 6 through 10 (final season episode) were actually entertaining, for Hollywood fare.

There was nothing that made me jump up and down on the couch, foaming at the mouth, shouting "that's totally impossible!" and scaring the neighbors. It's definitely pretend time, but the plots were fun, such as the mystery of a man mauled by a bear and how murder was involved, and so on.

And the lady deputy is rather gauche in her eagerness to wear her deputy's shirt as open as possible without making it an R rated TV show; but no doubt that is to keep the eyeballs of certain segments of their "public" glued to the TV set.

Now that the far out nonsense is not as apparent, I look to seeing the next season, which is airing live. I suspect that the books might indeed be even more interesting.

Booger Bill · Post by **Booger Bill** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:47 pm

I think most of us liked and reconised john wayne as the best western actor. Think about it. His best westerns were the US cavary pictures. I belive he was about at least 80 pounds overweight and 20 years too old at his best to qualify for being in the cavary in those days!
Any student of the old west can find many mistakes in every western ever filmed. Why single out longmire? I have backed off watching a lot of "action movies". You see impossible stunts with guns, cars etc. Years ago I brought my dad west for a visit. He was in his late 80s and in the early stage of alzhymers. We went over to my sisters house and her grandkids were watching that shwartznegger movie where he gets blown up and looks like a chrome man bleeding chrome blood and its healing him. My dad said something like the movie was ----, so sister put on bambi for the kids to see and settle dad down. After about two minuets of watching bambi my 7 year old grand nephew complained and said,Awww this is stupid! Who would belive this?

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:13 am

I like it ---- its a show my wife and I DVR and watch together -- I like that aspect. She likes the storylines and does not notice one thing wrong with the details --- I just enjoy spending a bit of time together occasionally , so if 45 minutes of Longmire gives me that , i'm cool with a few fabrications/inaccuracies

Long ago I was in the military --- I snicker at the technical inaccuracies and cheesiness of movies like The Hurt Locker , and the SEAL movie "using real SEALS !!" from a year or so ago --- I've already forgotten the name of it -----

But because I see through some of the Hollywood baloney doesn't mean I don't enjoy the movie in general, -- the Hurt Locker was a darn good movie --- I recently saw Zero Dark Thirty, and Argo as well, and thoroughly enjoyed those --- George Clooney and Marky MArk did a Desert Storm movie 10-15 years ago that was ludicrous and entertaining at the same time -- and then there are other flicks where you have to turn off your brain entirely and just enjoy a movie -- Schwarzenneger and Stallone type stuff (although I likely wont watch a stallone flick again after hearing his anti -gun rants)

PriseDeFer · Post by **PriseDeFer** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:37 am

I want to like it, I try to like it. One of the later episodes referred to a handgun as "not registered". In Wyoming? But being of that "certain segment", that blonde, fierce deputy does command my attention. They probably don't pay her enough if she doesn't make more than the rest.

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:26 am

You can't expect accuracy from an entertainment program, where the Wyoming Sherriff is played by an Australian, and the Cheyenne Indian by a Pilipino.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:27 am

I just watched "Last Stand" with Arnold "alphabet" S. I loved the question, "Do you have a permit for that thing?" In AZ? Then I remember, the writers, producers, directors, actors, etc... are all from CA... where that might be a question? Ok, ok, so some of the them might be from NY, where it's even more likely to be a legitimate question!

JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:47 am

Charles wrote:You can't expect accuracy from an entertainment program, where the Wyoming Sherriff is played by an Australian, and the Cheyenne Indian by a Pilipino.

wm · Post by wm » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:04 pm

Well you saved me the disappointment of watching them. A good story line is only enjoyable if they get the facts straight.

Too bad......it looked like my kind of show.

Wm

L_Kilkenny · Post by **L_Kilkenny** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:08 pm

wm wrote:Well you saved me the disappointment of watching them. A good story line is only enjoyable if they get the facts straight.

Too bad......it looked like my kind of show.

Wm

Then you must not ever watch anything, anytime and enjoy it cause as pointed out all shows have their share of B.S.

Longmire isn't the greatest show but it has one thing going for it that many current shows (TV and movie) don't have.......the characters are actually likable. I like Longmire, I like the female deputy, the fat deputy is funny, Lou Diamond Phillips is better than most of his roles and does good at one line bantering with Longmire.

Overall todays characters are not very likable. Even good guys in movies can be hard to like and the last thing I want to do is watch an action or suspense movie/show and hope everyone dies or at least just goes away. Longmire ain't like that.

Southern Bamboo · Post by **Southern Bamboo** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:19 pm

Gents,

I'll admit, I'm hooked and am enjoying Season 2 while revisiting old Season 1 episodes.

I love the TV series. It is so much better than what is out there right now.

However, I got the first book from the Library, and have been buying the books ever since - I too laugh out loud at the author's style. Hilarious!

This weekend I've been watching Jesse Stone marathons, and saw the comparisons to Longmire.

Honesty, I'm huge fans of both, and while Tom does have much better gun handling skills, I see MANY similarities between the two. I see a lot of creative license being taken by the TV Production crew from the books, and I see lots of influence of Jesse Stone in Longmire...

I'll take both, please!

JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:50 am

Welcome to the forum, Southern Bamboo.

Appreciated, your input is!

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:28 am

I've not seen Longmire on British TV so I watched a bit on the net, it seemed entertaining enough that a few silly mistakes could be ignored.
I don't like seeing the wrong guns being used in movies but I'd hardly ever see a Western if I always demanded authenticity.
Often wondered if a job in Hollywood would come up for someone to catch all the mistakes before the film was made, now that would be a great job....

JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:34 pm

game keeper wrote:...Often wondered if a job in Hollywood would come up for someone to catch all the mistakes before the film was made, now that would be a great job....

Game keeper, as the season progressed, the really grossly stupid mistakes vanished and I, too, enjoy the show. I really think that they got some fan mail similar to what we have posted here. I, for one, sent them something. I don't like to see the efforts of a good crew go to waste because somebody is so totally asleep at the switch.

Experts abound and are available at a relatively cheap price in "Hollywood," as the industry is called (although the city of Hollywood is more residential than industrial, and no long longer hosts any major studios, only its early history). But "Hollywood" - Burbank, Universal City, Century City, Culver City - is a core of cities in the huge mega-metropolis known as "L.A." L.A.P.D., L.A. Fire Department, major industry - they all have very highly paid, highly trained individuals who know firearms, pyrotechnics, military stuff (including the latest military secrets). I have two friends, one who was a co-worker, who have worked as technical consultants - one for law enforcement, one as a fire marshal type safety officer for the explosions and pyrotechnics that accompany almost all action films.

It is easy to find somebody in the Los Angeles area who is very knowledgeable and willing to lend expertise to the lots, even as a side job. Hiring in "Hollywood" is heavily about nepotism, or "the good ol' boy network." If you know somebody or are related, you have a great chance of getting a job. A consultant's salary or wage is a minimal expense, given the huge profits generated by the TV shows and movies. The double barreled shotgun racking sound blunder, for instance, could have been caught by just watching the show, and then re-editing the sound track to a "thunk-thunk," for instance - or a voice clearing its throat to alert the hero that somebody was behind him.

So, this original rant was about the obvious lack of care involved in what I saw as really stupid mistakes that destroyed the illusion of the adventure, for me. I am glad to see that the show has corrected itself, and now it is just the usual Hollywood nonsense - fantasy - that I can enjoy. As stated earlier, "the plausible impossible."

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:41 pm

I'm glad to hear they are beginning to get it right, my G/F is fed up with me tut tutin' every time I see a mistake in a movie...

Old Time Hunter · Post by **Old Time Hunter** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:11 am

olyinaz wrote:
K1500 wrote:Longmire is a modern day western set in a beautiful location. The title character carries a 1911 and a Winchester 94, drives a vintage Bronco, and doesn't give a rip about being trendy. If there is a group of guys that should enjoy this show, I would think it would be the members of this forum. If you are going to enjoy any TV show, you need to be able to let the mistakes slide by. Count me as a fan.
That's pretty much it. It's a TV show. At least it's not about gay high school students or lesbian cops or whatever.

Ditto

Have to overlook the mistakes made by the wannabe techs in Hollywood and perceive the gist of the surroundings, the "old school" sheriff, the '95 Bronco, no cell phone, and not afraid to have a shot and a beer at the old watering hole.

Oh yeah, watched a episode of Alaska State Troopers. To those that say LEO's do not carry lever guns, I was suprised to see one of the Troopers jump out of his car with a 450 Marlin.

44shooter · Post by **44shooter** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:01 pm

Well I'm no horseman, but I thought the opening scene tonight was ridiculous. Walt waits for a galloping horse dragging a man to come and lassos it while on foot. The horse stops almost immediately and Walt is not hurt. Ok, we get it. Longmire loves horses. But when you see one dragging a person, it's shooting time.

Oh, he just psychologically tortured a suspect by tieing him behind the same wild horse.

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:40 pm

44shooter wrote:Well I'm no horseman, but I thought the opening scene tonight was ridiculous. Walt waits for a galloping horse dragging a man to come and lassos it while on foot. The horse stops almost immediately and Walt is not hurt. Ok, we get it. Longmire loves horses. But when you see one dragging a person, it's shooting time.

Hey, when Clark Gable manhandled broncs down to the dirt by hand it was all good.

Anyway, they suspected that the guy being dragged was dead.

44shooter wrote:Oh, he just psychologically tortured a suspect by tieing him behind the same wild horse.

Yep, the murderer. Hollywood to be sure, but what audiences are looking for - the good guy kicking butt and putting bad guys away.

I thought tonight's episode was particularly good. It looks like Walt got a new horse at the end of the show too.

44-40 Willy · Post by **44-40 Willy** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:43 am

I try not to get overly excited by inaccuracies in a show. That said, I do like Longmire.

vancelw · Post by **vancelw** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:40 am

Well, some of you fellers bragged on the books, so I bought the first one. I really like the style and humor in it. I had the villain pegged as soon as they were introduced into the story (only one without false leads) but still enjoyed riding along on the tale. Johnson did stretch the geograhy quite a bit. He wants the reader to believe that half of Montana is in Wyoming and it's all just a short drive away. He also wants you to think the entire Northern Cheyenne Reservation is in Lame Deer. Literary license I suppose. I've been to St Labre Indian School several times. They have a great museum. The school is not run-down, even though the community may be.

Then..I watched the first Longmire episode.

I was so P-O'd I couldn't enjoy it at all. After 15 minutes I had to disconnect the series from the book and just treat them as two completely separate things. Then I could enjoy the TV series more. Still pretty silly in places, but beats any sitcom on broadcast TV about now.

Thanks for bringing this subject up. I'm sure I'll read every book before the year is up. Always looking for deer stand material (keeps me from fidgeting)

JerryB · Post by **JerryB** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:57 pm

I watched the show last nite and enjoyed it. Even saw him carrying a lever gun.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:31 am

One of the ummmmm, benefits of being in the hospital for a week is cable TV. I got to watch a couple shows I hadn't seen before. Longmire was one of them. It wasn't bad really, but I wouldn't pay to watch it.

Joe

JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:06 pm

Great hearing from you, Joe!!

rangerider7 · Post by **rangerider7** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:57 pm

Count me in, it is better than most these days. RR7

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:52 pm

rangerider7 wrote:Count me in, it is better than most these days. RR7

+1

I didn't start watching it till recently, but I got the whole first season off Netflix and have been watching them in order. Almost caught up to the new episodes here in season 2.