Side lever concept???
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Side lever concept???
I know several years ago The Gibbs Rifle Company made some Lee-Enfield Rifles into some rather nice bolt action .45-70's. That got me to thinking... I'm wondering if a Pattern 14 Enfield in .303 couldn't easily be converted to a .45-70 as well without a lot of trouble?
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Re: Side lever concept???
THE ANSWER IS YES IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO CHANGE IT TO THE KROPATCHEC[SP] MAUSER DESIGN. I FIGURE ABOUT A BOXCAR AND A HALF OF GREASY GREEN PAPER WILL PUT YOU 45/70 SIDE LEVERIN' IN MIGHTY TALL COTTEN.
OR YOU CAN JUST GO FIND AND BUY A KROPATCHEC[SP] MAUSER WHICH FEEDS 45/70 AMMO LIKE PHHHHIT THROUGH A GOOSE.
OR YOU CAN JUST GO FIND AND BUY A KROPATCHEC[SP] MAUSER WHICH FEEDS 45/70 AMMO LIKE PHHHHIT THROUGH A GOOSE.
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Re: Side lever concept???
Thanks Terry, I never heard of those before. I'll start looking.
Ahhhh, http://www.militaryrifles.com/Portugal/PortKrop.htm
Well, hmmmm.
Ahhhh, http://www.militaryrifles.com/Portugal/PortKrop.htm
Well, hmmmm.
If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-
Isiah 55:8&9
It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.
Isiah 55:8&9
It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.
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Re: Side lever concept???
A Siamese Mauser works very well too...
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.
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Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
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Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
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Re: Side lever concept???
Rusty, enfield conversion is doable. I happen to know where one is, and it is for sale.
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Re: Side lever concept???
WAIT A MINUTE HERE......MAYBE I SAID THE WRONG MAUSER AND IT IS THE SIAMESE MAUSER THAT FEEDS LARGE RIMMED CARTRIDGES.......YEE GADS.....IT IS ONE OR THE OTHER OR MAYBE BOTH... LO L .....
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Re: Side lever concept???
AFAIK Gibbs, et al built theirs on the Siamese model but I won't swear no other models were used...
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
Re: Side lever concept???
Siamese is the way I remember it.
Re: Side lever concept???
Siamese work well, and you can load 'em to the gills.
Re: Side lever concept???
There is the first of a 6 part article about converting a Mosin to 45-70
http://pharmory.blogspot.com/2010/08/mo ... art-1.html
Looks pretty straight forward.
Jack
http://pharmory.blogspot.com/2010/08/mo ... art-1.html
Looks pretty straight forward.
Jack
Re: Side lever concept???
jhrosier wrote:There is the first of a 6 part article about converting a Mosin to 45-70
http://pharmory.blogspot.com/2010/08/mo ... art-1.html
Looks pretty straight forward.
Jack
Whoa, now those are simple to find.
Just an old man thinkin mind you.
If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-
Isiah 55:8&9
It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.
Isiah 55:8&9
It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.
Re: Side lever concept???
Yep,
I have one,want it?
I have one,want it?
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Re: Side lever concept???
Being a confirmed 45/70 fanatic I at one time owned and shot a Siamese Mauser converted to 45/70.Very very accurate.Very very strong action that can be hand loaded wayyy beyond anything else but a #1 Ruger.
The downside and reason I divested myself of it was that the darn thing was so bulky and ungainly.
Once you own a lever action 45/70 all else pales in comparison in reference to handling and accuracy.
The only other 45/70 which is to me a joy to carry and shoot is an NEF Handi rifle.
Stan in SC
The downside and reason I divested myself of it was that the darn thing was so bulky and ungainly.
Once you own a lever action 45/70 all else pales in comparison in reference to handling and accuracy.
The only other 45/70 which is to me a joy to carry and shoot is an NEF Handi rifle.
Stan in SC
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45-70,it's almost a religion
45-70,it's almost a religion
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Re: Side lever concept???
My rememberer kicked in this afternoon and it reminded me Navy Arms and/or Gibbs used the No4 Enfield (or maybe the No5 Jungle Carbine) to build .45-70s as well.awp101 wrote:AFAIK Gibbs, et al built theirs on the Siamese model but I won't swear no other models were used...
I know where I can pick up a No4 MkI for $200 OTD or less (complete with Ramline stock ) but I don't know of an immediate source for a .45-70 barrel threaded for the Enfield and I'm not willing to pay to have one threaded at the moment. Besides, it's not like I'm already project poor anyway...
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
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Re: Side lever concept???
I LOVE my old Sporter SMLE Gibbs Frontier Summit Rifle "Smelly Nelly" especially with this awesome Aussie peep sight gifted to me by my friend in Perth.
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Akā, ʻo ka poʻe hilinaʻi aku iā Iēhova, e ulu hou nō ko lākou ikaika;
E piʻi ʻēheu aku nō lākou i luna, e like me nā ʻaito;
E holo nō lākou, ʻaʻole hoʻi e māloʻeloʻe,
E hele mua nō lākou, ʻaʻole hoʻi e maʻule.
`Isaia 40:31
Akā, ʻo ka poʻe hilinaʻi aku iā Iēhova, e ulu hou nō ko lākou ikaika;
E piʻi ʻēheu aku nō lākou i luna, e like me nā ʻaito;
E holo nō lākou, ʻaʻole hoʻi e māloʻeloʻe,
E hele mua nō lākou, ʻaʻole hoʻi e maʻule.
`Isaia 40:31
Re: Side lever concept???
Yes Ji, that's exactly the piece that got me thinking about this. I guess more about the possibility that the practicality. Jr reminds me all the time that I don't shoot what I have now. Somehow life keeps getting in the way.
If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-
Isiah 55:8&9
It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.
Isiah 55:8&9
It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.
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Re: Side lever concept???
Who says it's all about the shooting? Sometimes it's just the having it that gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling.Rusty wrote:Jr reminds me all the time that I don't shoot what I have now.
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at