Thinking about a small cap and ball revolver-update

[awp101]

Looking for something .31 or .36 caliber, bigger than a Colt 1849 but smaller than a full size 1851.

How big are these? http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_in ... s_id=13613

I'm not dead set against an 1851 sized pistol as long as the barrel is between say 3" and 5". I just prefer those lengths for my funsie shooting.

[yooper2]

They're comparable to the 1848/49. You might want to look at the Colt 1862, it's a 5 shot .36 with the Navy/SAA gripframe. There's two versions of it, one looks like a '51 Navy and the other looks like a little '60 Army.

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_in ... ts_id=1031
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_in ... ts_id=1032


Eric

[Hobie]

The 62 is the "updated version" of the 1849 and is the same size it does not have an 1851 size grip frame. Those little Remingtons, after which Ruger modeled the Bearcat, are about the same size as the Pocket Navy and Police revolvers.

[FatJackDurham]

The 1851 has great balance and recoil. loved mine.

[Grizz]

I think 36 cal sounds good because that's 000 buck. so one size fits both the shottie and the pistola.

Or a 7.62 pistola to go along with #1 buck.

I'm not familiar with the models being suggested and would like to see some P I C T U R E S please

thanks

Grizz

[Griff]

1862 Colt Police

Different copies sometimes vary in size. How exactly the differences are, I'm not sure. But, I understand they're very minor.

[Old Ironsights]

I think 36 cal sounds good because that's 000 buck. so one size fits both the shottie and the pistola.

Or a 7.62 pistola to go along with #1 buck.

I'm not familiar with the models being suggested and would like to see some P I C T U R E S please

thanks

Grizz

This.

There are some very nice .36 "pocket police" pistolas out there, especially ones with "birds head" grips...

[gamekeeper]

I once had a Pietta .36 Police and a Uberti .31 1849 Pocket Colt. The .36 was just as good as my 51 Navy but the .31 balls would bounce back off hardwood targets unless loaded to the maximum with 777.

[Sixgun]

Here, I'm tired of it already. Takes too long to load this antique junk. Made in '73...1873. 1862 Colt ...Blue Book----------------me

[Booger Bill]

I also vote for the 1862 31 colt police replicas. They are small and the nicest looking copys out there.

[awp101]

OK, it looks like I need to do some hands on examining. A Bearcat is really too small for me to work comfortably (and I hate that because I REALLY like them and want one ) so it sounds like the Remington would be the same. And I'd forgotten that tidbit about the Bearcat/Remington connection.

I had 2 different 1849s, an ASM and an Uberti (IIRC). I keep thinking they went down the road because the grip frame was too small. Gonna have to find one I can get my grubby mitts on and try.

Here, I'm tired of it already. Takes too long to load this antique junk. Made in '73...1873. 1862 Colt ...Blue Book----------------me

Bored with it already, eh? How about a battlepack of South African .308 for it?

[Pete44ru]

Looking for something .31 or .36 caliber, bigger than a Colt 1849 but smaller than a full size 1851.

How big are these?

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_in ... s_id=13613

I had one of those Pocket Remingtons, with the steel frame, that I shot for a few years.

It was almost exactly the same size as my Ruger BearCat revolver, and in fact looked like a percussion version of one, when held SxS.

It was VERY cool.




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[M. M. Wright]

To my eyes the 1862 Police is the epitome of cap and ball revolvers. Actual sculpture in steel, brass and walnut. Gonna have to find me one some day.
Don't I remember that one of Sixguns is a real 1st gen Colt?

[Sixgun]

Bored with it already, eh? How about a battlepack of South African .308 for it?

mmmmmmmmmmmm.............OK, if you have the M1A to go along with it or $1,500, whichever comes first. It would sell for 2 g's.-----------Sixgun

[awp101]

Pete, I guess I'm going to have to find a Bearcat and try and see what it was that didn't fit right because I do like the looks of the Remingtons over the Colts. But M.M. does have a valid point!

Bored with it already, eh? How about a battlepack of South African .308 for it?

mmmmmmmmmmmm.............OK, if you have the M1A to go along with it or $1,500, whichever comes first. It would sell for 2 g's.-----------Sixgun

Dang you drive a hard bargain. 2 battlepacks of SA .308, but that's as high as I'll go. The FAL is a hungry beast...

[awp101]

Had the day off yesterday so I went to my usual haunt where I remembered seeing a Bearcat a few months ago figuring I'd try it on for size if it was still there.

Long story short: they'd had it for longer than I remembered, were willing to deal, it fit me better than I remembered and I had some trade fodder at the house...

So, here's my new, small "cap and ball" revolver:

bearcat ls.jpg

bearcat rs.jpg

8XXX sn which I think dates it to 1962. Shows honest wear but not abuse, needs a replacement base pin retainer spring (a previous owner replaced it with one that barely fits and is already compressed) and to top it off, it's just about as cute as a bug!

[3leggedturtle]

Kittery Trade Post had one like that, for awhile. Nice, how soon till you give a range report

[Pete44ru]

Your BearCat dates from 1961, awp101 - 1962 started with a 17,000 SN.

Those old-style, non-medallion grips are valueble/highly sought-after - don't discard them lightly.

Mine dates from 1969, and I bought it a new pair of shoes (made by Sack Peterson).



BTW - Some BearCats are tight-chambered, being hard to seat ammo & hard to extract.

If you have that problem (like I did with this one), a switch in ammo brands is often a magic wand.



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[awp101]

Your BearCat dates from 1961, awp101 - 1962 started with a 17,000 SN.

Those old-style, non-medallion grips are valueble/highly sought-after - don't discard them lightly.

Mine dates from 1969, and I bought it a new pair of shoes (made by Sack Peterson).

Thanks, I couldn't remember if it was '61 or '62.

I didn't realize that about the stocks. My only plan if I swap them is a set of stags like the ones you have pictured...

[jhrosier]

FWIW, the Colt 1862 is exactly the same size as a S&W chief special.
I had one of each a few years back and was quite surprised at the similarity when one was laid over the other.

Jack

[Old Ironsights]

FWIW, the Colt 1862 is exactly the same size as a S&W chief special.
I had one of each a few years back and was quite surprised at the similarity when one was laid over the other.

Jack

I never tried that... but I'm not surprised.

I really need to get one of those repros and "pocketize" it...

[bigbore442001]

I wished someone made such a small caliber like the 31 with a long barrel such as 6 to 8 inches. To me it would be great for plinking and small game.

[awp101]

I wished someone made such a small caliber like the 31 with a long barrel such as 6 to 8 inches. To me it would be great for plinking and small game.

If you're talking in general, wasn't the .32 H&R Mag Single Six available with a 9" barrel?

If you're talking c&b, perhaps taking a .36 barrel and having it sleeved would be doable? I'm not sure how the outside dimensions would match up though. Maybe take a .36, have the barrel sleeved and either modify the cylinder (inserts?) or have a new cylinder made? A new cylinder or having a .31 barrel made out of a barrel blank sounds spendy though. Maybe remove the .36 barrel and have a .31 blank installed?

Dang, I could spend the rest of the day working this out...

[765x53]

I wished someone made such a small caliber like the 31 with a long barrel such as 6 to 8 inches. To me it would be great for plinking and small game.

The "Possible Shop" http://www.possibleshop.com/pistol-uberti.html has 1862 Pocket Navy's with 6 1/2" barrels.