Iran's stealth fighter a fake according to the Aussies!

[KiwiKev]

One of Australia's top defense writers reckons this plane will only move after you have put a coin in the slot!



http://www.theage.com.au/technology/sci ... 2e08q.html

Have we seen this before?




But really the Iranians stole this design:

[MrMurphy]

Anyone who knows aircraft could tell it was a fake.


That and it literally has a car stereo system in the cockpit control panel section......

[sore shoulder]

Anyone who knows aircraft could tell it was a fake.


That and it literally has a car stereo system in the cockpit control panel section......

Actually it has 4 or 5 car stereos lol.

[2571]

Anyone who knows aircraft could tell it was a fake.

Please expand on your comment. All I know about planes is that you have to take your shoes off to be permitted onto one. lol

What is so apparent?

[MrMurphy]

Condensed version from a group of intelligence officers, aircraft maintainers (crewchiefs, avionics guys, airframe people) and others:


Body interior where it's seen through the edge of the cockpit well is fiberglas molding.

Air intakes are the wrong angle, if it goes into any high angle of attack i.e maneuvering beyond airliner standards, the engines run out of thrust because there's no air coming in.

Nose is too small to fit any current or former radar known, including the superdupercoolguy stuff we use which they don't have the ability to build (or the Russians, Chinese, etc who might give it to them). Doesn't fit anywhere near the dimensions for any system they're known to use even if they jacked the old ones out of the F-14's we sold them under the Shah and managed to actually make it work.

The rather obvious car stereo in the cockpit.

Rest of the cockpit controls are all in odd locations for what they profess to be and the rest of the cockpit is severely lacking in instrumentation.

This is a mockup.

It might fly, even do a couple laps, but it's no stealth fighter. Maybe a 2/3 scale prototype, but realistically, this is more along the lines of the North Korean buildings which are only fronts, but look cool. They're bragging to other countries and trying to make themselves look good. To an uneducated man-dress wearer in back of AliBabbastan, that might go, but.....not with knowledge.

[Pete44ru]

A cockpit sized for a midget, inadequate wiring, and what looks like landing gear too light for the purported weight (certainly inadequate for the weight of an added bomb load) - to say nothing of the somewhat quirky aerodynamic styling, with apparently none of the standard aircraft assembly hardware (rivets, etc) in the fuselage/wings.

There's reportedly been no pics of a take-off/landing, and the released flight pics could have been a small remote-controlled propaganda model.


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[sore shoulder]

I doubt the body of that plane would hold together at the speeds required to even get that design off the ground lmao. Not to mention the exhaust melting the fiberglass at the rear.

[Old Savage]

2571 - it is way too little.

[bdhold]

do the North Koreans know Pitchy is winning the arms race?

[madman4570]

One of Australia's top defense writers reckons this plane will only move after you have put a coin in the slot!



http://www.theage.com.au/technology/sci ... 2e08q.html

Have we seen this before?



And also of course!



But really the Iranians stole this design:

Now--------------------I know they are a faking stuff.
Hey------------How did they get Pitchy's airplane on there ??

[jshinal]

There are no gap seals around the canopy. Sub-zero temperatures are the minimum problem, but air getting under a canopy at speed rips it off - in real aircraft this triggers an alternate ejection seat firing circuit.

The canopy itself is badly rippled, like cheap greenhouse plastic. Casting large clear polycarbonate panels for aircraft is a significant technology - it's not easy at all.

The 'engine bay' defined by the exhaust (seen in other pics not shown above) is ludicrously small. Simple laws of physics here, you get jet thrust by moving a large volume of air and expanding it by making it very hot. What's shown in their 'aircraft' is grossly dissimilar to every known engine flying today. I do not believe their engines are superior to those from GE, Pratt & Whitney, Rolls-Royce, Williams, Garrett or Lyulka/Saturn.

Some of those 'car stereos' are commercial autopilots or transponders, but Kenwood avionics is too funny to let slide. The other avionics kit is typical of a doctor's tricked-out Cessna or Beechcraft light airplane, though.

There are no access panels for servicing the aircraft. A maintenance free aircraft is fairly preposterous. Even planes with composite panel construction have access hatches to get into the guts.

Note the "advanced technology" exposed wiring visible in the gunsight display. That connector will go goofy in the first hard turn over 3 Gs.

It *might* be a featherweight prototype that can fly a little bit, and has only minimal 'real military grade' features. That would make sense for their smallish industry. However it's not remotely the build quality of even a 1980s business aircraft.

[Panzercat]

I believe they were saying that at best it's F-5 with pretty, but non functional drapes. At worst it's made of PVC and house siding. I'm inclined to believe the latter.

[92&94]

The canopy itself is badly rippled, like cheap greenhouse plastic. Casting large clear polycarbonate panels for aircraft is a significant technology - it's not easy at all.

Even I picked up on that - knowing roughly zilch about aircraft. I've seen plastic model canopies that look better than that thing.

Also noticed it is freakishly small.... pilot really does look like a dude in a kiddie ride at the fair.

[1894c]

at least we know that Pitchy's flies...i really hope an iranian intel guys sees these posts... :)

[cas]

The biggest problem they're having is coming up with a rubber band large enough to launch it.

[FWiedner]

Heck, I'd drop a nickle in it if I saw it in front of the Walmart...