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If it only saves one life ----

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BOs standard he is proclaiming - an armed mother in Georgia saved three lives - how many others have been saved.
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Ever year someone is murdered with a golf club and someone is killed with an errant golf ball.
If banning golf would save just one life, wouldn't it be worth it?

Why does anyone need more than one golf club?
No one should be allowed to walk around with a bag full of potential murder weapons on his shoulder.
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Youre more likely to be stuck by lightning than be a victim of a mass shooting. (Just look up the 10 year statistics). We don't run around trying to make laws to 'protect' us from being struck by lightning. And we don't go about banning those things which cause far higher numbers of deaths including bathtubs where people slip and/or drown, or automobiles which claim about 115 people in the US each and every day.

What happened was very sad. Unfortunately, there are those who manipulate the emotions of others to push forward their agenda - which is to disarm the American people. Only in Switzerland and in America, are citizens (not 'subjects' and defiinitely not 'serfs') right to keep and bear arms protected by law. This is not subject to legislators whim. We the People grant them limited powers in limited areas under the US Constitution. They don't 'rule' over us.
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Old Savage wrote:BOs standard he is proclaiming - an armed mother in Georgia saved three lives - how many others have been saved.

OS,
Is that really what was said :shock: (where can that be found)???

Look, what has to be ASSUMED is "every single criminal act" that an armed (good guy)has stopped "any" CRIMINAL from gaining access to the home/business/car jack/or criminal assualt whether it being in the home/on the street/parking lot/whatever!

Since a CRIMINAL has the thought of already entering into a crime(a factor has to be considered that when that CRIMINAL is about to be stopped/caught/etc. the very real possibility is that there is a percentage that lives could be saved.
Let alone the not taking into consideration the (what if the good guy)has a gun thinking by a potential bad guy???????? stopping a criminal act in the first place.

What they need to do is find in the whole USA(how many crimes were prevented by a citizen that owns a gun(used to prevent)
I would wager the numbers that legal armed citizens prevented CRIME(murder/potential murder/and any other type assualt is HUGE.

Also-----take out the murder factor-------------------do they consider battery/rape/etc. also important factors that should be told????

You have to be kidding me! :roll:

If our society cannot UNDERSTAND that SIMPLE thought process-------------then all hope for our beloved country is almost lost!
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How many rapes are prevented each year by the intended victim either shooting or scaring off the would be rapist? Thousands - I don't know offhand how many thousands.

In seeking to remove this right of self defense for American women, I believe it is BHO who is waging a war on women, not the GOP. Either that or this is why he's pushing for the free birth control - then he can say "So what if you were raped, at least you're not pregnant".
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If he wants too do everything he can to save just one life why don`t he stop supporting abortion. :(
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One of my favorite sections of American Rifleman is the "Armed Citizen". Each month a dozen or so incidents where a gun saves a life...
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Madman - he said that yesterday in a speech in Minneapolis.
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Far more people are killed on the nation's highways every year than are killed by fire arms. Where's the outrage on that?

If you take away the drunks and the reckless teenagers the numbers are still staggering.

I'm about to sell my used pick up truck since I bought a new one. By law I don't even have to sell it to someone with a driver's license yet they want gun owners to undergo a background check.
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Get into the lives saved by legal gun owners. Not comparisons of what is more dangerous - use his own words to counter his position. There are folks who blow with the wind with the last thing they heard. Don't let them be blown over in the other direction.
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Madman -

"Also-----take out the murder factor-------------------do they consider battery/rape/etc. also important factors that should be told????

You have to be kidding me!

If our society cannot UNDERSTAND that SIMPLE thought process-------------then all hope for our beloved country is almost lost!"

Stop all this negativism - the point is to affect people in the right direction - legal guns save many lives - the woman and her children in Georgia, many others - prolilferate the stories, keep them out there. This is the choir as Pete said those that would waiver need to hear them for our purpose. Subtlely, strongly, regularly, however works to defend the right and the means to self defense for especially the vulnerable. Women in record numbers are buying guns and learning to use them.

Give people you talk to a concise, easily remembered example to walk away with - don't overload them or seem crazy, retain steady credibility. Let the examples speak for themselves.
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765x53 wrote:Ever year someone is murdered with a golf club and someone is killed with an errant golf ball.
If banning golf would save just one life, wouldn't it be worth it?

Why does anyone need more than one golf club?
No one should be allowed to walk around with a bag full of potential murder weapons on his shoulder.
Bingo.
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