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Warning - Do not patronize Hyatt properties UPDATE PAGE 4
Today I was booked at a Hyatt Regency Hotel in Texas for a few nights. After checking in the person assisting me noticed a range bag with earmuffs on them. She asked if we had any firearms. We told her we did but we were authorized to have them (some of these guys were also LEOs). She informed us that Hyatt has a strick zero-firearms policy. She went on to say that firearms were not permitted in guest rooms or vehicles on the property but could be checked with hotel security if prior arrangements are made. We promptly told her to check us back out immediately. She then said "it doesnt matter if you are police or legal to carry guns, we don't allow any for the safety of our guests". I asked her who was going to protect me if someone with a gun and bad intentions did enter the property and she said "we would call the police". News flash lady - we ARE the police. I have sent an email and letter to Hyatt Corportate Headquarters and I requested a written response.
So, we went down the street to the Hilton where we asked the clerk if they had any problem with guests having guns on the property. She smiled and she "we love cowboys, this is Texas". She went on to say "anybody can bring their legal firearms for hunting, shooting sports or protection with them and we regard whether or not you have guns with you as a private matter". She booked us and reduced the rate to match the Hyatt after we told her the story.
Traveler beware!
So, we went down the street to the Hilton where we asked the clerk if they had any problem with guests having guns on the property. She smiled and she "we love cowboys, this is Texas". She went on to say "anybody can bring their legal firearms for hunting, shooting sports or protection with them and we regard whether or not you have guns with you as a private matter". She booked us and reduced the rate to match the Hyatt after we told her the story.
Traveler beware!
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'tards!
I was on my way to your place in Avery and stopped at a Best Western in Forrest City AR. I asked the gal at the desk about walking through the lobby with a couple cased hunting rifles and she said "No Problem, happens all the time".
Good for you for Moving on and writing corporate. It amazes me how dumb some people can be!
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I was on my way to your place in Avery and stopped at a Best Western in Forrest City AR. I asked the gal at the desk about walking through the lobby with a couple cased hunting rifles and she said "No Problem, happens all the time".
Good for you for Moving on and writing corporate. It amazes me how dumb some people can be!
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Unbelieveable. But we need to get used to it. Many of the wealthy (corporate owners) are anti-gun, and the anti-gun lobby is going to use situations just like this to make owning and carrying a gun difficult. Soon, no one will ship ammo or guns, and the like. OR charge horrendous fees to make it difficult.
Message received and passed on.
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Look at this as an OPPORTUNITY...
Be sure to put it in the light of "What about the women who are in our group; a couple have had bad experiences in the past, and so of course they now carry concealed for their own safety and peace of mind...?" It gets more sympathy than just saying you are on a hunting trip.
I've done it with universities, physician recruiters, banks, and other businesses.
- 1. Contact Hyatt and plan some business with them (i.e. to rent a few suites for a 3-4 days).
2. Get to the point of almost sealing-the-deal.
3. Casually ask about their 'firearms' policy, then when told they are a gun-free-zone,
4. Cancel the deal, and followup with a written letter to the higher-ups as to why.
Be sure to put it in the light of "What about the women who are in our group; a couple have had bad experiences in the past, and so of course they now carry concealed for their own safety and peace of mind...?" It gets more sympathy than just saying you are on a hunting trip.
I've done it with universities, physician recruiters, banks, and other businesses.
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Re: Warning - Do not patronize Hyatt properties
Good to know about the Hilton, will do buisiness with them in the future.
And let them know why I choose them.
And let them know why I choose them.
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Thanks for the heads up I will spread the word.
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Thanks for posting Joe, I had a big response going and realized it might get your thread removed for getting political. As was stated, I think we are just seeing the beginning of corporate anti-2nd Amendment moves.
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Thank you 86er...
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Good response Joe.
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Great another Gun Free Zone!
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Oops, I guess I broke their rule, more than once. I won't be staying there again. I wonder if that was that hotel's or corporates decision. I think I'll ask.
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Heck, I go to Motel 6....they only-ist thang they don't like is havin' more than two sheep in there at once.... 

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Not that we travel a lot, but this is good to know.
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Thanks for the report! I'll never pay for a room in a Hyatt again. I'm sick and tired of this ignorant ¢rap.
Oh and BTW, when I was a LEO just a few years back I stayed in Hyatt's all the time and they didn't say squat to us, so they're obviously selective about it too.
Oly
Oh and BTW, when I was a LEO just a few years back I stayed in Hyatt's all the time and they didn't say squat to us, so they're obviously selective about it too.

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I was dove hunting in west Texas last season and took a load of guns into the lobby on a cart to check in. The young lady took a look at all the guns and said, "Y'all havin any luck?". There are plenty of gun friendly places in Texas, but I like to know where the boneheads are at. Boycott.
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The verbal notification is sufficient to chase any ordinary schmoe CHL off the property, but was their policy or a "Pursuant to Section 30.06,
Penal Code.." card posted at the entrance to the establishment?
How is a customer supposed to be aware of this corporate idiocy?
Where in Texas did this take place?
Sounds like a nice area to consciously avoid.

Penal Code.." card posted at the entrance to the establishment?
How is a customer supposed to be aware of this corporate idiocy?
Where in Texas did this take place?
Sounds like a nice area to consciously avoid.

Government office attracts the power-mad, yet it's people who just want to be left alone to live life on their own terms who are considered dangerous.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
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The premise did not have a "posted" sign with notice regarding Texas Penal Law. I looked on the web site for the policy but other than the FAQs page it just says the complete company policy is available by mail. The Hilton staff actually said they had heard of this one other time from the same hotel. They turned away a group of hunters with rifles in cases. While Hyatt didnt bat an eyelash over cancelling our 5 reservations the Hilton gave us a discount and some food vouchers for patronizing them after leaving the offending facility.
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Must be just the location you stayed:
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Tks, Joe. No more Hyatt hotels/motels.
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Yea, but what do you do on a three dog night?BlaineG wrote:Heck, I go to Motel 6....they only-ist thang they don't like is havin' more than two sheep in there at once....
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I got a quick e-mail back from the Hyatt location in question. I still do not agree with or like the policy so they are off my list, but in the interest of fairness I will share all correspondence I receive with you:
Dear XXXXX XXXXXXX,
Please accept my apologies for the incorrect information given at the front
desk. Rachel came to see me shortly after your departure, and I informed her
that law enforcement have the right to carry firearms. As you know from travels
around Texas, we get individuals that bring firearms such as rifles and shotguns
for certain hunting seasons. We require these individuals firearms to be checked in
with Security and not kept in the guest rooms. Please rest assured that I have addressed
this with her. If you are still in the area, please come back to the hotel, and I
would instruct the front desk to immediately check you in and upgrade your room
for your inconvenience. If you are not in the area, please let me know when you
come back to the area, and I would be happy to assist you in the future.
Once again, please accept my apologies.
Best regards,
Jeff
Jeff Babcock
Director of Rooms
Dear XXXXX XXXXXXX,
Please accept my apologies for the incorrect information given at the front
desk. Rachel came to see me shortly after your departure, and I informed her
that law enforcement have the right to carry firearms. As you know from travels
around Texas, we get individuals that bring firearms such as rifles and shotguns
for certain hunting seasons. We require these individuals firearms to be checked in
with Security and not kept in the guest rooms. Please rest assured that I have addressed
this with her. If you are still in the area, please come back to the hotel, and I
would instruct the front desk to immediately check you in and upgrade your room
for your inconvenience. If you are not in the area, please let me know when you
come back to the area, and I would be happy to assist you in the future.
Once again, please accept my apologies.
Best regards,
Jeff
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So, at the Hyatt, "special" people can have their firearms, but the rest of the peasants must disarm to stay there. Hmm, now why would even a "special" person stay somewhere that treats most of us like fecal matter?
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Here's another response hot off the press:
Good Evening XX. XXXXXXX,
Thank you for taking the time to share your concerns regarding the Hyatt Regency.
Your concerns are very important to us and due to
the nature of the experience you have described, we feel it is important to
involve the executive management of the hotel for review and follow up.
We appreciate your patience while this matter is fully investigated
If you should have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact
our office.
Sincerely,
Ryan Frost
Guest Services Specialist
I still haven't gotten any clarification of policy nor assurance that they are firearms friendly. So, they've lost my business as I have no tolerance for this kind of sterotyping and catagorizing.
Good Evening XX. XXXXXXX,
Thank you for taking the time to share your concerns regarding the Hyatt Regency.
Your concerns are very important to us and due to
the nature of the experience you have described, we feel it is important to
involve the executive management of the hotel for review and follow up.
We appreciate your patience while this matter is fully investigated
If you should have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact
our office.
Sincerely,
Ryan Frost
Guest Services Specialist
I still haven't gotten any clarification of policy nor assurance that they are firearms friendly. So, they've lost my business as I have no tolerance for this kind of sterotyping and catagorizing.
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When they start seeing it hit their wallets, then they will notice. Sometimes that is the only thing that matters to them.
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Ain't leaving my guns with security. That to me is the same as not allowing them.
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AJMD429 wrote:Look at this as an OPPORTUNITY...
The "lost business" will impress them more than any letter alone, and likewise, just not going there, without their knowing WHY, won't register on their radar.
- 1. Contact Hyatt and plan some business with them (i.e. to rent a few suites for a 3-4 days).
2. Get to the point of almost sealing-the-deal.
3. Casually ask about their 'firearms' policy, then when told they are a gun-free-zone,
4. Cancel the deal, and followup with a written letter to the higher-ups as to why.
Be sure to put it in the light of "What about the women who are in our group; a couple have had bad experiences in the past, and so of course they now carry concealed for their own safety and peace of mind...?" It gets more sympathy than just saying you are on a hunting trip.
I've done it with universities, physician recruiters, banks, and other businesses.
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a.k.a, "The King's Pass".jeepnik wrote:So, at the Hyatt, "special" people can have their firearms, but the rest of the peasants must disarm to stay there. Hmm, now why would even a "special" person stay somewhere that treats most of us like fecal matter?
Special treatment for special people.
Ever see the comedy film "Ferris Bueller's Day Off"? There's a scene where the main character, Ferris, his girl Sloane, and his friend Cameron have borrowed Cameron's Dad's prized Ferrari 250 GT to drive for the day. When they get downtown they leave the car in the care of two greasy garage attendants who wait for them to get out of sight and then take it for a 180-mile joy ride.TomF wrote:Ain't leaving my guns with security. That to me is the same as not allowing them.
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That's what I'd think of.

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86er wrote:Today I was booked at a Hyatt Regency Hotel in Texas for a few nights. After checking in the person assisting me noticed a range bag with earmuffs on them. She asked if we had any firearms. We told her we did but we were authorized to have them (some of these guys were also LEOs). She informed us that Hyatt has a strick zero-firearms policy. She went on to say that firearms were not permitted in guest rooms or vehicles on the property but could be checked with hotel security if prior arrangements are made. We promptly told her to check us back out immediately. She then said "it doesnt matter if you are police or legal to carry guns, we don't allow any for the safety of our guests". I asked her who was going to protect me if someone with a gun and bad intentions did enter the property and she said "we would call the police". News flash lady - we ARE the police. I have sent an email and letter to Hyatt Corportate Headquarters and I requested a written respons
So, we went down the street to the Hilton where we asked the clerk if they had any problem with guests having guns on the property. She smiled and she "we love cowboys, this is Texas". She went on to say "anybody can bring their legal firearms for hunting, shooting sports or protection with them and we regard whether or not you have guns with you as a private matter". She booked us and reduced the rate to match the Hyatt after we told her the story.
Traveler beware!
Thank you for the warning!
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Why was it any of their business to begin with?
I try not to obviously travel with long guns (in this matter, an AR taken down into upper/lower in a zipped case which looks like a laptop, or a 12ga in a gym bag is ideal).
I don't travel unarmed, period, and it's none of a hotel's business.
On the other end of things I've stayed in Hiltons around the world and always been treated properly.
I try not to obviously travel with long guns (in this matter, an AR taken down into upper/lower in a zipped case which looks like a laptop, or a 12ga in a gym bag is ideal).
I don't travel unarmed, period, and it's none of a hotel's business.
On the other end of things I've stayed in Hiltons around the world and always been treated properly.
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these hotels are also owned by Hilton - the Good Guys
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Thanks for the heads up!
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Re: Warning - Do not patronize Hyatt properties
This fellow from Hyatt should enter politics. Sort of reminds me of the little song and dance the governor does in "best little whorehouse in texas".
Dear Mr. Horner:
Thank you for contacting Hyatt Hotels and Resorts; my name is Brock Shacklett and I am with Hyatt Guest Relations. It is my pleasure to assist you.
The possession of firearms may depend on local city and state jurisdiction along with the individual hotel. If you can provide me with the hotel you're interested in, I could speak to their management team on your behalf to find out the hotels specific policy.
I look forward to a future opportunity to assist you. Thank you for choosing Hyatt.
Sincerely,
Brock Shacklett
Guest Services Specialist
I replied with.
Sir,
As I mentioned, this concerns the possession of legal firearms, therefore local city and state jurisdictions do not apply. I am trying to determine if the prohibition on the possession of the firearms on the hotel premises is a corporate level or individual hotel level decision.
Thank you for your prompt reply to my original query
We'll see if I get a response.
Dear Mr. Horner:
Thank you for contacting Hyatt Hotels and Resorts; my name is Brock Shacklett and I am with Hyatt Guest Relations. It is my pleasure to assist you.
The possession of firearms may depend on local city and state jurisdiction along with the individual hotel. If you can provide me with the hotel you're interested in, I could speak to their management team on your behalf to find out the hotels specific policy.
I look forward to a future opportunity to assist you. Thank you for choosing Hyatt.
Sincerely,
Brock Shacklett
Guest Services Specialist
I replied with.
Sir,
As I mentioned, this concerns the possession of legal firearms, therefore local city and state jurisdictions do not apply. I am trying to determine if the prohibition on the possession of the firearms on the hotel premises is a corporate level or individual hotel level decision.
Thank you for your prompt reply to my original query
We'll see if I get a response.
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"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
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+1jeepnik wrote:Oops, I guess I broke their rule, more than once. I won't be staying there again. I wonder if that was that hotel's or corporates decision. I think I'll ask.
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Exactly. No card, no legal ground according to my instructor. And the display has to conform to the State regs or it's still not valid.FWiedner wrote:The verbal notification is sufficient to chase any ordinary schmoe CHL off the property, but was their policy or a "Pursuant to Section 30.06,
Penal Code.." card posted at the entrance to the establishment?
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BlaineG wrote:Heck, I go to Motel 6....they only-ist thang they don't like is havin' more than two sheep in there at once....
ewe shock me! baaaad boy!
heck, they would probably just try to fleece you anyway.
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I'd take it another step, and write to Hilton letting them know about the situation, and that you will be patronizing them as much as possible in the future. Sign up for their frequent quest program.AJMD429 wrote:Look at this as an OPPORTUNITY...
The "lost business" will impress them more than any letter alone, and likewise, just not going there, without their knowing WHY, won't register on their radar.
- 1. Contact Hyatt and plan some business with them (i.e. to rent a few suites for a 3-4 days).
2. Get to the point of almost sealing-the-deal.
3. Casually ask about their 'firearms' policy, then when told they are a gun-free-zone,
4. Cancel the deal, and followup with a written letter to the higher-ups as to why.
Be sure to put it in the light of "What about the women who are in our group; a couple have had bad experiences in the past, and so of course they now carry concealed for their own safety and peace of mind...?" It gets more sympathy than just saying you are on a hunting trip.
I've done it with universities, physician recruiters, banks, and other businesses.
I travel almost weekly, and I'm a Diamond member of the Hilton Honors program.

Glad to hear I picked the right chain!!!
I am surprise a hotel could legally bar a patron from legal possession of their firearm. I always bring my firearms in with me when I stay overnight somewhere. It is a lot safer to have them inside than leaving them in a car on a lot overnight. With all the states passing laws to force employers to let employees store weapons locked in their vehicles, I am surprised the same states don't bar a hotel from banning legally owned and transported firearms. I'm not a huge fan of violating one's private property rights, but in these cases, it is the same to me as banning someone of a specific race or ethnicity. Shouldn't be allowed.
Joe, glad to hear you were well-treated by the Hilton folks. I'll be sure to send my own letter to Hyatt letting them know they will never see a penny of my business...

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Joe, if you get a chance, please tell Joe that you would not patronize an establishment that had one set of rules for LEO's, but another for law-abiding CCW holders. I know that's how you feel - and it will carry more weight with twits like the folks at Hyatt to hear it from an LEO.86er wrote:I got a quick e-mail back from the Hyatt location in question. I still do not agree with or like the policy so they are off my list, but in the interest of fairness I will share all correspondence I receive with you:
Dear XXXXX XXXXXXX,
Please accept my apologies for the incorrect information given at the front
desk. Rachel came to see me shortly after your departure, and I informed her
that law enforcement have the right to carry firearms. As you know from travels
around Texas, we get individuals that bring firearms such as rifles and shotguns
for certain hunting seasons. We require these individuals firearms to be checked in
with Security and not kept in the guest rooms. Please rest assured that I have addressed
this with her. If you are still in the area, please come back to the hotel, and I
would instruct the front desk to immediately check you in and upgrade your room
for your inconvenience. If you are not in the area, please let me know when you
come back to the area, and I would be happy to assist you in the future.
Once again, please accept my apologies.
Best regards,
Jeff
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I called around to speak to someone in corporate about this and to get clarification on the actual corporate policy on Friday. After being transferred 100 times I was getting annoyed but I once again told the story and added that I had been transferred endlessly and was getting quite annoyed. The person on the phone said he was finding out where to send my call and I could overhear him talking to someone else. I am pretty freaking sure I heard him talking to whomever and refer to me as "some gun extremist"! I verbally confronted him on this when he re-addressed me and he immediately transferred my call to yet another voice mail. I am pursing this no further with Hyatt - but I will spread this story to all LEO's and gun enthusiasts that I can reach. They crossed the line more than once now .....
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I'll let everyone I know, know about it as well.86er wrote:I called around to speak to someone in corporate about this and to get clarification on the actual corporate policy on Friday. After being transferred 100 times I was getting annoyed but I once again told the story and added that I had been transferred endlessly and was getting quite annoyed. The person on the phone said he was finding out where to send my call and I could overhear him talking to someone else. I am pretty freaking sure I heard him talking to whomever and refer to me as "some gun extremist"! I verbally confronted him on this when he re-addressed me and he immediately transferred my call to yet another voice mail. I am pursing this no further with Hyatt - but I will spread this story to all LEO's and gun enthusiasts that I can reach. They crossed the line more than once now .....
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Joe
If you're tight with some LEOs, you might want to talk to the leadership, have them put out a policy letter to the department personnel advising them that when they travel they are not to use Hyatt owned hotels due their Unconstitutional policies.
Make sure Hyatt mgmt gets a copy.
For the rest of us, if you belong to a gun club have the club send a memo to all members, and ensure that the Hyatt mgmt gets a copy of your "policy memo".
If you frequent gun shows out of town/state, talk to the show's coordinator/sponsor have them warn attendees as to Hyatt's policies....think Tulsa, Denver, Vegas etc shows where out of town attendance is huge.
V/R
Mike
If you're tight with some LEOs, you might want to talk to the leadership, have them put out a policy letter to the department personnel advising them that when they travel they are not to use Hyatt owned hotels due their Unconstitutional policies.
Make sure Hyatt mgmt gets a copy.
For the rest of us, if you belong to a gun club have the club send a memo to all members, and ensure that the Hyatt mgmt gets a copy of your "policy memo".
If you frequent gun shows out of town/state, talk to the show's coordinator/sponsor have them warn attendees as to Hyatt's policies....think Tulsa, Denver, Vegas etc shows where out of town attendance is huge.
V/R
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Excellent idea. I was thinking of writing a letter to the specific hotel where this occurred and cc'ing one to the HQ in Chicago. Yes - Chicago; no wonder.Mike Hunter wrote:...if you belong to a gun club have the club send a memo to all members, and ensure that the Hyatt mgmt gets a copy of your "policy memo"...
The gun club idea is great - I belong to two of 'em (Rifle range and indoor Pistol club in Fresno).
I'm one of thousands of retired cops who always carry; so are therefore exempt even from their exception of the gun ban to LE (who may indeed have old enemies lurking around). I doubt that I have any old foes in Texas, but that is not the point.
More on point: Every law-abiding citizen should have the right to defend themselves and pursue lawful shooting activities without some self-important hotel clerk invading their privacy by asking Gestapo type questions or denying them access to lodgings based upon their exercising their 2nd Amendment right.
Hobie communicated to me that he sees no reason why we cannot share this thread with my gun clubs for their membership and the public to see.
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UPDATED- Here is a letter that I plan to share with some gun clubs, fellow retirees, active LE contacts and of course Hyatt folks. Perhaps others might want to borrow from the format:
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This month (January, 2013), a law enforcement officer on official travel tried to check in to the Hyatt Hill Country Resort in San Antonio, Texas. He was wearing duty gear including badge prominently displayed. The girl at check-in counter, "Rachel," admonished the officer and his group that Hyatt has a strict zero-firearms policy; that firearms were not permitted in guest rooms or vehicles on the property; that they must check the firearms in with Hotel Security. She stated further that "it doesn't matter if you are police or legal to carry guns, we don't allow any for the safety of our guests".
When asked "Who is going to protect me if someone with a gun and bad intentions enters the property?", she answered "we would call the police".
The group checked out. A reply from a follow-up with the local manager produced a reply that law enforcement officers have a right to carry their firearms, that Rachel was mistaken, but that other citizen's guns need to be checked in with hotel staff.
Down the street, the clerk at the Hilton was asked about this policy. The lady there smiled and replied, "We love cowboys, this is Texas". She went on to say "anybody can bring their legal firearms for hunting, shooting sports or protection with them and we regard whether or not you have guns with you as a private matter." She booked the group there at a reduced the rate to match the Hyatt after they told her the story.
The Corporate HQ of Hyatt Hotels has acknowledged the receipt of a letter and has yet to reply; but even the reply of the local manager indicates that, unless you are an active law enforcement officer, you have no right to have a firearm with you, in your room, or even in your car.
I understand that Hyatt Security there is not licensed and bonded by the State of Texas. They are privately hired by Hyatt. They should therefore not be handling anyone's firearms since they have not even passed all the State background and requirements to be a security guard.
Hotels are all starving for guests. I know; one of my relatives is a registration manager in Monterey, California; another one holds the same job in Hawaii - both at very prestigious hotels that are scrambling for guests. It is time to vote on our 2nd Amendment rights with our money. You may wish to avoid the Hyatt chain for this reason. It's easy to spot them - they all have "Hyatt" in the name.
For more, you can read about this topic at:
::http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=46224::
[:: necessary to display full url online at the Leverguns site - remove these for your letter]
One of your fellow gun enthusiasts - "JohndeFresno"
cc:
Hyatt Regency Hill Country Resort
Jeff Babcock, Manager
9800 Hyatt Resort Dr.
San Antonio, TX 78251
Hyatt Hotels
Mark S. Hoplamazian
President, CEO & Director
71 S. Wacker Dr.
Chicago, IL, 60606
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This month (January, 2013), a law enforcement officer on official travel tried to check in to the Hyatt Hill Country Resort in San Antonio, Texas. He was wearing duty gear including badge prominently displayed. The girl at check-in counter, "Rachel," admonished the officer and his group that Hyatt has a strict zero-firearms policy; that firearms were not permitted in guest rooms or vehicles on the property; that they must check the firearms in with Hotel Security. She stated further that "it doesn't matter if you are police or legal to carry guns, we don't allow any for the safety of our guests".
When asked "Who is going to protect me if someone with a gun and bad intentions enters the property?", she answered "we would call the police".
The group checked out. A reply from a follow-up with the local manager produced a reply that law enforcement officers have a right to carry their firearms, that Rachel was mistaken, but that other citizen's guns need to be checked in with hotel staff.
Down the street, the clerk at the Hilton was asked about this policy. The lady there smiled and replied, "We love cowboys, this is Texas". She went on to say "anybody can bring their legal firearms for hunting, shooting sports or protection with them and we regard whether or not you have guns with you as a private matter." She booked the group there at a reduced the rate to match the Hyatt after they told her the story.
The Corporate HQ of Hyatt Hotels has acknowledged the receipt of a letter and has yet to reply; but even the reply of the local manager indicates that, unless you are an active law enforcement officer, you have no right to have a firearm with you, in your room, or even in your car.
I understand that Hyatt Security there is not licensed and bonded by the State of Texas. They are privately hired by Hyatt. They should therefore not be handling anyone's firearms since they have not even passed all the State background and requirements to be a security guard.
Hotels are all starving for guests. I know; one of my relatives is a registration manager in Monterey, California; another one holds the same job in Hawaii - both at very prestigious hotels that are scrambling for guests. It is time to vote on our 2nd Amendment rights with our money. You may wish to avoid the Hyatt chain for this reason. It's easy to spot them - they all have "Hyatt" in the name.
For more, you can read about this topic at:
::http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=46224::
[:: necessary to display full url online at the Leverguns site - remove these for your letter]
One of your fellow gun enthusiasts - "JohndeFresno"
cc:
Hyatt Regency Hill Country Resort
Jeff Babcock, Manager
9800 Hyatt Resort Dr.
San Antonio, TX 78251
Hyatt Hotels
Mark S. Hoplamazian
President, CEO & Director
71 S. Wacker Dr.
Chicago, IL, 60606
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Re: Warning - Do not patronize Hyatt properties
Why would anyone in his right mind give their guns to a complete stranger at a hotel to secure them? Where are they secured? So Hyatt has gun safes now? Who is the clerk? No offense intended but what if the clerk is a convicted felon, unstable or a thief. If I was a crook I would just go rob the unarmed hotel clerk at the Hyatt for all their "secured" guns.
I would imagine you open yourself up to much liability if your gun is used for a crime because you turned it over because of a hotel policy. It's bad enough laws are being created to infringe rights, but policies?
I would imagine you open yourself up to much liability if your gun is used for a crime because you turned it over because of a hotel policy. It's bad enough laws are being created to infringe rights, but policies?
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I have never had any trouble in any of the hotels I've stayed in, but it is my understanding that it is perfectly legal to possess firearms in your hotel room, as it is your domicile for the duration of your stay. It's just like having them in your house. This is the law in New Mexico, at least. I would think it similar in Texas, but I could very well be mistaken.
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PM to johndefresno with particulars. Furthermore, I have found out he Hyatt Security there is not licensed and bonded by the State of Texas. They are private hired by Hyatt. They should not be handling anyone's firearms since hey have not even passed all the State background and requirements to be a security guard.
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The above information was added into the letter (as amended, above) that I am now sending to Hyatt, my gun clubs, and elsewhere.86er wrote:PM to johndefresno with particulars. Furthermore, I have found out he Hyatt Security there is not licensed and bonded by the State of Texas. They are private hired by Hyatt. They should not be handling anyone's firearms since hey have not even passed all the State background and requirements to be a security guard.
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That was my understanding too but I was kinda leary about guns at a Casino hotel by KC. They had it posted and most states have regs against guns in casinos. Never mind that I wasn't in the Casino and it was pretty much seperate building. Still it gave me pause.shooter wrote:I have never had any trouble in any of the hotels I've stayed in, but it is my understanding that it is perfectly legal to possess firearms in your hotel room, as it is your domicile for the duration of your stay. It's just like having them in your house. This is the law in New Mexico, at least. I would think it similar in Texas, but I could very well be mistaken.
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I wonder if the organizers and attendees for this year's NRA national convention are aware of this?