Buying a Remington No.1 Rolling Block

[FatJackDurham]

Tomorrow, I am sending in the deposit on an old Rolling Block I saw on Guns Int. The seller says it may have been relined, which is exactly what I am looking for anyway, since I will be shooting it not mounting it.

Anyone here shoot the rolling blocks?

[JReed]

I have an original in 45-70. http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=45772 . Getting her back to the range this weekend.

[Marvin S]

I shoot one in 43 Spanish.

[FatJackDurham]

HAHA! I didn't make the connection when you posted in my post about the misfiring 45-70!!!!! Very cool!

Yes, the one I am buying is an original as well, though the sell thinks the bore was relined and the barrel reblued.

It will be 8 weeks till I get it paid off, but I can't wait.

I was reading about the single set trigger kits for that. They seem pretty complex. I guess there was a fellow who dedicated the later part of his life to making rolling block components, but he has passed away.

Mine looks a lot like yours. When I get it I'll post.enjoy the range. It's going to be below freezing here, so I don't know if I will be shooting this weekend.

[FatJackDurham]

I shoot one in 43 Spanish.

Cool. I saw a couple of those at a gunshow recently. The one I am buying is in 45-70.

[JReed]

You are gonna have a blast with that rifle.

[yooper2]

I have an 11.7 Danish that was re-barreled to 45-70. Rolling blocks are great pieces of history and mine is a fabulously accurate rifle as are the other two that I have shot (both 7mm Mausers). Good luck with yours!

Eric

[hayabusa]

A Nam Vet that I used to work with had a Remington RB 45-70 that I cast Lee 405 Gr. bullets for.
It was very accurate at the city dump where we shot it.
He passed away from agent orange at the VA. His half brother has it now?
It was gorgeous.
Busa

[awp101]

Anyone here shoot the rolling blocks?

Yup!

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26408&hilit=+RRB

And welcome to the Rolling Block Rehab Facility...

[damienph]

Mine is a 1901 in 7mm Spanish Mauser. Very accurate and fun rifle to shoot.

[Pete44ru]

All my rollers have been rimfires - one of which was a .32RF that I converted to CF (.32 Short Colt).




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[Marvin S]

Rolling blocks are real nice for bench type shooting as the action is right up top and easy to operate.

[M. M. Wright]

Mine is a Danish 11.7X51R but I ran a 45-70 reamer in it many many years ago so I could shoot it. Cases come out sorta bottle necked and a .458 bullet just rattles down the barrel which has a .461 bore. I size bullets .463 and do not resize the cases, just drop-tube in a case full of ffg, seat a card wad and hand seat the bullet. Shoots ragged holes now with 300 grain bullets. Has a kinda slow twist so can't shoot the heavy stuff.

A friend of my Dad's "liberated" it during WW2 and gave it to me when I was 12. Had it for 60 years now.

[Tumbleweeds II]

I have a model 1 1/2 in .32-20. I've only shot it enough to know it goes Bang but I think it's pretty cool. Lyman still makes the tang sights for those rifles, so I'm thinking that, a Beach front sight, and some custom loads.

The guys at the fun shop thought I should rebarrel it to some .32-20 spinoff like .218 Bee, but I want to see what I can make it do in the original caliber before I go that way.

There's an engraver in town who does pretty decent 19th Century style engraving, too. I can waste money on this for years if I pace myself.

[rbertalotto]

Yup...........45-70 Pedersoli.......Most accurate single shot I own with both smokeless and black powder. Big ol' tang sight and globe front sight.....200yds, 5" / 5 Shot groups! CLANG!!!



Or a big ol' brass scope...

[Bill in Oregon]

I've had several -- in .40 - 2 1/2 Sharps Straight, .43 Spanish, .45-70, 12.7 Swedish and currently one that needs completion in .50-70. A local shop has a bunch of them -- put up on consignment by a rolling clock collector who had one in 7X57 explode in his face. He survived, but lost his enthusiasm for the design.

[FatJackDurham]

I've had several -- in .40 - 2 1/2 Sharps Straight, .43 Spanish, .45-70, 12.7 Swedish and currently one that needs completion in .50-70. A local shop has a bunch of them -- put up on consignment by a rolling clock collector who had one in 7X57 explode in his face. He survived, but lost his enthusiasm for the design.

!0.0!



Wow, is that a problem? The Lyman's book lists the hotest loads for the 45-70 Remington No.1. I thought it had the strongest action! I dont plan on really hot loads, but I am always worried about old guns.

Rbertaletto : Sweet! Do you ever take it completely apart? I'd love to see the set trigger works, if you feel like snapping a few pics. After I get warmed up to it, I want to look into tang and globe sights. Mine will be the MIlitary, three band model. Do those have any barrel distortion issues that might affect accuracy as opposed to one like yours with a short stock and no bands?

Yooper: Maybe mine was rebarrled to 45-70, which would account for the nice bore and bluing. I notice roller owners are not shy about modding.

[FatJackDurham]

BTW. Are period brass scopes legal for cowboy gong shoots? How do you adjust elevation and windage?

[rbertalotto]

Some matches allow them........(Brass Scopes)

The adjustments are external, like a Unertl scope. This is how it was done back in the day.

[FatJackDurham]

Are there lenses in it or is it just a long tube?

Wouldnt that tube bonk you in the eye set like that?

[awp101]

Are there lenses in it or is it just a long tube?

Wouldnt that tube bonk you in the eye set like that?

They have lenses just like modern scopes and as long as you're not a stock crawler, you're good to go.

And BTW rbertalotto:

[FatJackDurham]

They have lenses just like modern scopes and as long as you're not a stock crawler, you're good to go.

Stock Crawler? What is that? I do keep my cheek firmly welded to the stock and my nose pretty much touching my thumb knuckle. I guess its a habit I picked up from Basic where they taught us to get a consistant sight picture by touching our nose to the tip of the charging handle.

I guess that makes me a stock crawler

I should probably pick a better technique. I do sometimes get buttstroked my by springfield if I am not paying attention...

[44-40 Willy]

I had a 7mm one years ago. Accurate, but had a sloppy chamber and the brass would get all stretched out. Don't remember what I ever did with it.

[bdhold]

Roy, thanks for showing the photos - probably the most gorgeous firearm I've ever seen.

[rbertalotto]

Are there lenses in it or is it just a long tube?

Wouldnt that tube bonk you in the eye set like that?

There are lenses....About 4 power.

With full house loads, you do need to back up a bit. But I shoot mostly black powder and the recoil is quite manageable. The rifles weighs over 12 pounds.

But the scope is no way as accurate as the iron sights. On round paper targets, the front globe sight with a circle aperture is unbeatable. The scope is near impossible to change POI quickly, and it doesn't hold POI well. It has no marking for windage or elevation. Basically, it looks cool, but is near useless.

I have two of the William Malcolm reproduction scopes also. Both have great optics but the mounts are terrible and impossible to repeat settings. I machined a complete set of mounts for the Short Malcolm scope on my 1885 Winchester using micrometer heads. (I believe there is an article about it somewhere on my web page ... http://www.rvbprecision.com ) But on both rifles, a real good (Lee Shaver) tang sight with a Lyman globe front sight is more accurate on paper. If you are shooting rocks or undefined targets where a cross hair is superior, then the scopes will rule.






http://public.fotki.com/Rbertalotto/gun ... nertl-typ/

[rbertalotto]

Roy, thanks for showing the photos - probably the most gorgeous firearm I've ever seen.

I love these old rifles...............nothing modern compares to the style they had!

Lots more here:

http://public.fotki.com/Rbertalotto/thi ... t-go-bang/


Thanks!