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Coyote on the trailcam

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Yesterday morning about 5:30 or so we were awakened by the coyote family serenading us from about 30 feet out in front of the trailer. We hear them very frequently around our place, we kinda like it, I dont shoot them. Here is one guy we captured on the trailcam the same morning.

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Nice photo.
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He's got quite the underbite!
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You may have heard coyotes... but that ain't one of them. I've
Never seen one that color. Maybe they a.re leaving my neighborhood and moving into yours. Good luck no more moose for you. Hartman
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hartman wrote:You may have heard coyotes... but that ain't one of them. I've
Never seen one that color. Maybe they a.re leaving my neighborhood and moving into yours. Good luck no more moose for you. Hartman
By gum, you have a point there. I've seen lots of coyotes but never one with a coloration like that, although looking on Google images, they seem to have a variety of coloration.
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Sure you don't have Wolves there :lol: ???????? Even that animals body structure just seems a little strange let alone the color for a coyote!

Maybe not------could be just the lighting etc.???
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You really ought to dispatch them.

No good will come from maintaining a population of wild dogs.

They are a danger to you and every other creature within the territory they claim.

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Thats no coyote in that pix. take a good look at the head & the color, half breed ? wolf coyote?
did one sound off key compared to a coyote? Intresting pix


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I agree, that isn't a coyote. May be a cross, but looks more wolfy than coyote.
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We get lots that have some 'mutt' in them, probably from interbreeding with wild dogs. Makes for lots of color variations and so on.
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Nice picture.

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FWiedner wrote:You really ought to dispatch them.

No good will come from maintaining a population of wild dogs.

They are a danger to you and every other creature within the territory they claim.

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Balderdash!! I aint skeered of no coyote. Neither are the wild horses, moose, elk, bears, badgers, etc that populate the territory here. Just part of nature.

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Can you take some measurements off that tree he's standing next to and let us know about how tall he is? He looks more husky or wolf like than coyote like to me. Too tall and lanky. But hard to tell from a pic. I've had four coyote incidents in the 10 years I've lived in the country. Twice they've backed my 60lb boxer mix up to the front door of the house, before I figured out what was going on and came out shooting. I won't pass up a shot on one ever, even in a deer stand. The coyotes are getting extremely brazen in these parts.

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madman4570 wrote:Sure you don't have Wolves there :lol: ???????? Even that animals body structure just seems a little strange let alone the color for a coyote!

Maybe not------could be just the lighting etc.???
Yeah, we do have wolves here, but sighings are a little unusual. Monday I am going to forward that picture up to the Game and Fish Dept, get their wolf guy to take a look at it.
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Waste it.

Just had two people found guilty & sentenced for dangerous animal death here (kinda like manslaughter in MI). Let their wolf-hybrid dog kill & eat their 5 year old kid as he slept.

Owner & his fiance both had drug problems; he had multiple felonly convictions.
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I agree that this doesn't look like any normal coyote I've ever seen. We've got enough coyotes that have moved in to central Florida over the past two decades to be pretty familiar with them. The face on this critter looks too full, and he stands taller than a coyote ought to. Mabye a hybrid as was mentioned earlier ? - DixieBoy
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Never saw a coyote that looked like that either. :?
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How come the date on the Trail Cam is 5 years old.
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jnyork wrote:I aint skeered of no coyote.

We dont have to shoot every living thing we see just because we can.
'Skeered' ain't the issue.

I disagree. Some things need killing'.

Coyotes rank high at the top of the list.

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AJMD429 wrote:We get lots that have some 'mutt' in them, probably from interbreeding with wild dogs. Makes for lots of color variations and so on.
That's my bet.

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jnyork wrote:
madman4570 wrote:Sure you don't have Wolves there :lol: ???????? Even that animals body structure just seems a little strange let alone the color for a coyote!

Maybe not------could be just the lighting etc.???
Yeah, we do have wolves here, but sighings are a little unusual. Monday I am going to forward that picture up to the Game and Fish Dept, get their wolf guy to take a look at it.
Check this size of his head in relationship to his ears!

For a comparison-----when that pic comes up, click on it,also click on the other below at bottom-----notice difference in muzzle width and his front legs(look at the bone structure/width/length).

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The way the wolves are reproducing and spreading in NW Wyo it would not surprise me if they were breeding with coyotes, domestic dogs and anything else they run into they don't eat. Does look too healthy for a typical coyote in summer. Most of the time they are shedding their coats in summer and look really patchy.

Sorry, but at the family ranch there is a bounty on coyotes. Too much valuable livestock has been damaged by the critters to let them wander away.
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Mix breed for sure. Snap a cap on him!! :D
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Some of our eastern 'yotes can look a lot like that. Heavier in the head/muzzle, and a wider shoulders, grey w/some black happens too. A dog can go upwards of 50#. The game biologists claim they have red wolf bred into them and no domestic genes. Then again those same biologists claimed for years that there where no 'yotes in Maine, just a few "feral dogs". These buggers can be real killers if you have any stock, pets or even kids around. I don't like them within howling distance of the house and barns. Unless you are sure it's someones Fido, I think I would SS&S.
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Looks to have Red Wolf or some German Shepard in it. They are becoming more of a threat to humans each year. They are predators but I'm at the top of the predator chain. I take them out as often as I can but humans don't make much of a dent in the populations of coyotes or feral hogs over all. My two cents. RR7
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Maybe it's just me but that whole photo just looks "off" to me. Almost 3D like, light sky in the background but no shadowing on the trees and critter, white teeth of the critter, coloring of the critter seems different, head vs. body, etc.

As for shoot or not......... Coyotes (if that's what it is) left untouched will soon overwhelm an area. I say they are vermin and will drop everyone I see but regardless they should be strictly controlled and it's every outdoorsman's duty to do the deed. Doesn't make a difference if you like to listen to them or not. Heck, it's not like you're gonna kill em all off (hasn't worked in 200 years ain't gonna work now) but they do need controlled.
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Well, I sent the picture to the Game and Fish wolf guy this morning, he conferred with some other wolf specialist in the system and the consensus is that it is an OLD wolf, from the coloring. This is the first wolf we have seen on our place, but have seen a couple others in the past in the general area. We have some deer and a moose living in that particular patch of aspens and they didn't get bothered at all. A neighbor about a half mile away found the eaten-on remains of a fawn deer ON THE FRONT PORCH of his cabin about a week ago, couldn't tell if it was the wolf or one of our local bears. Interesting country up there. Best Regards to all and thanks for your comments.
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jnyork wrote:Well, I sent the picture to the Game and Fish wolf guy this morning, he conferred with some other wolf specialist in the system and the consensus is that it is an OLD wolf, from the coloring. This is the first wolf we have seen on our place, but have seen a couple others in the past in the general area. We have some deer and a moose living in that particular patch of aspens and they didn't get bothered at all. A neighbor about a half mile away found the eaten-on remains of a fawn deer ON THE FRONT PORCH of his cabin about a week ago, couldn't tell if it was the wolf or one of our local bears. Interesting country up there. Best Regards to all and thanks for your comments.
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Where were you in Wyoming when the picture was taken? Up toward the NW part of the state I hope. Wouldn't surprise me no matter what part of the state you were in considering how they have expanded their territory and grown in numbers. I remember that a few years ago the G&F and the Feds said there were no wolves in Wyo, so they introduced them. Yea, Right. Wonder where the OLD wolf came from??
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Meeteetse wrote:
jnyork wrote:Well, I sent the picture to the Game and Fish wolf guy this morning, he conferred with some other wolf specialist in the system and the consensus is that it is an OLD wolf, from the coloring. This is the first wolf we have seen on our place, but have seen a couple others in the past in the general area. We have some deer and a moose living in that particular patch of aspens and they didn't get bothered at all. A neighbor about a half mile away found the eaten-on remains of a fawn deer ON THE FRONT PORCH of his cabin about a week ago, couldn't tell if it was the wolf or one of our local bears. Interesting country up there. Best Regards to all and thanks for your comments.
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Where were you in Wyoming when the picture was taken? Up toward the NW part of the state I hope. Wouldn't surprise me no matter what part of the state you were in considering how they have expanded their territory and grown in numbers. I remember that a few years ago the G&F and the Feds said there were no wolves in Wyo, so they introduced them. Yea, Right. Wonder where the OLD wolf came from??
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Great picture, someone mentioned the underbite, made me recall a whitetail buck that came in the taxidermy shop, had a good 3/4" over bite, very unique. After mounted though he was same as any other mount. See alot of things come in in deer gun season, have dug broken off tines outta bucks heads were his buddy had horned him good. Lots of deer that have been shot in time with birdshot. Wandering off topic here but thats what the underbite refrence brought on..... Thanks for the picture .DT
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jnyork wrote:
Meeteetse wrote:
jnyork wrote:Well, I sent the picture to the Game and Fish wolf guy this morning, he conferred with some other wolf specialist in the system and the consensus is that it is an OLD wolf, from the coloring. This is the first wolf we have seen on our place, but have seen a couple others in the past in the general area. We have some deer and a moose living in that particular patch of aspens and they didn't get bothered at all. A neighbor about a half mile away found the eaten-on remains of a fawn deer ON THE FRONT PORCH of his cabin about a week ago, couldn't tell if it was the wolf or one of our local bears. Interesting country up there. Best Regards to all and thanks for your comments.
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Where were you in Wyoming when the picture was taken? Up toward the NW part of the state I hope. Wouldn't surprise me no matter what part of the state you were in considering how they have expanded their territory and grown in numbers. I remember that a few years ago the G&F and the Feds said there were no wolves in Wyo, so they introduced them. Yea, Right. Wonder where the OLD wolf came from??
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Nice country, Beaver Creek? If it turns out to actually be a wolf, I wonder if it migrated from the NW along the divide down the Wind River range or if it was native to the area. Either way those critters are taking over. If they continue to breed, the coyote, deer and elk populations are going to be in trouble. They have already ruined the elk herds in Yellowstone according to some reports. It will be interesting to see what the G&F decides. Keep us posted.
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Malamute wrote:I agree, that isn't a coyote. May be a cross, but looks more wolfy than coyote.

I'd have to agree. Muzzle area and forehead area seem too "heavy". Coyotes give impression of being more "foxy".

Coyotes are known to hybridize with domestic dogs also. Coydogs show intermediate characteristics.
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