Reliabile Gunsmith
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- GonnePhishin
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Reliabile Gunsmith
Can anyone recommend a good and reliable gunsmith in the general Fargo, ND area? I'm looking to have a mini 14 rebarreled with a heavier barrel.
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Re: Reliabile Gunsmith
Fargo is very short of gunsmiths. The best one I know of is Curt at the Outdoorsman. 701 282
0131. There is a couple of guys who are good at woodwork.
0131. There is a couple of guys who are good at woodwork.
Re: Reliabile Gunsmith
Accuracy International used to do that, rebarrel mini-14's
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Re: Reliabile Gunsmith
a heavy barrel in its self wont correct the accuracy problems as the HB is only thicker from the end of the forearm out, all mini's have the same problem the standard m14's have the stock pressure from the receiver to the end of the forearm, this is a fix you can do yourself and save some $ unless you are wanting a faster twist bbl, fix up the one you have. I worked on mine and made it a moa out to 300 yds for predator shooting. The receiver needs to be bedded from the receiver to just past the chamber area and the pressure where the end of the stock is held by the forearm holder on the bbl has to be relieved that's what causes your groups to string. In effect you are just floating the barrel, Ive done m14's and mini 14's and it has worked. wood stocks are a problem for mini & m14's thats why the military went to composite stocks you could consider that if you cant make your wood stock work. No mini will keep its group if you try and dump a bunch of 20 round mags thru it thats just to much heat at once but for extended Pdog shooting it will group fine. danny
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Danny, you made me want to buy a Mini-14 just to try this out. Makes sense!BigSky56 wrote:a heavy barrel in its self wont correct the accuracy problems as the HB is only thicker from the end of the forearm out, all mini's have the same problem the standard m14's have the stock pressure from the receiver to the end of the forearm, this is a fix you can do yourself and save some $ unless you are wanting a faster twist bbl, fix up the one you have. I worked on mine and made it a moa out to 300 yds for predator shooting. The receiver needs to be bedded from the receiver to just past the chamber area and the pressure where the end of the stock is held by the forearm holder on the bbl has to be relieved that's what causes your groups to string. In effect you are just floating the barrel, Ive done m14's and mini 14's and it has worked. wood stocks are a problem for mini & m14's thats why the military went to composite stocks you could consider that if you cant make your wood stock work. No mini will keep its group if you try and dump a bunch of 20 round mags thru it thats just to much heat at once but for extended Pdog shooting it will group fine. danny
There was a guy, Chief AJ I think, who did accuracy work on the Mini-14s guaranteeing MOA accuracy for about $700 and that was several years ago. I heard, but am not certain, that he did about what you suggest.
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Re: Reliabile Gunsmith
???????????? Might do the trick for accuracy improvements.(try first ??)
http://www.beartoothbullets.com/tips/archive_tips.htm/1
http://www.beartoothbullets.com/tips/archive_tips.htm/1
Re: Reliabile Gunsmith
Yup Hobie I talked to that gentlemen years ago about mini's and with the work I'd done on m14's it was about the same work, the HB that are for sale are just a gimmick unless you bed and relieve pressure. danny
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Re: Reliabile Gunsmith
BigSky56,
Thanks for the information. I know what you mean about the barrels being thinner after the handguard, but I went to the Accuracy Systems website and looked at pictures of their barrels. While they are a little thinner by the gas block, they aren't grotesquely thin like the so-called Shilen heavy barrel is. That heavy barrel looks like it was deformed!!
Thanks for the information. I know what you mean about the barrels being thinner after the handguard, but I went to the Accuracy Systems website and looked at pictures of their barrels. While they are a little thinner by the gas block, they aren't grotesquely thin like the so-called Shilen heavy barrel is. That heavy barrel looks like it was deformed!!
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Hey Madman, thanks for the link on the gasblock!
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Re: Reliabile Gunsmith
The other option is get rid of the stock gas block so that you have a larger hole for a heavy barrel to pass through.BigSky56 wrote:Yup Hobie I talked to that gentlemen years ago about mini's and with the work I'd done on m14's it was about the same work, the HB that are for sale are just a gimmick unless you bed and relieve pressure. danny
It's not Accuracy International that does the Mini-14 work, it's Accuracy Systems Inc. that does it:
http://www.ruger-mini-14-firearms.com/m ... sories.php
They will guarantee anywhere from 1.5 MOA to half MOA depending upon what you order.
They'll even build you a sub-MOA rifle on the Remington pump action if you'd like!
http://www.remington7400.com/index.php
Oly
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That fires we don't put out will bigger burn
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