Which Powder for Plain Base Cast?

Bob A · Post by **Bob A** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:51 pm

In an attempt to cut the cost of my plinking habit, I am going to work up a load for 150 gr Plane Base cast for my 30-30. I would like to get 1500-1600 FPS if possible without leading.
The bullets are on order. I am told to expect BHN to be about 20.
My research, so far, tells me that XMP5744, H4198 and Reloader 7 maybe candidates.

What do you guys think?

Bob A

Terry Murbach · Post by **Terry Murbach** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:58 pm

XMP5744 HAS BEEN NOTHING SHORT OF SUPERB FOR ME IN SUCH APPLICATIONS.
WITH LEAD BULLETS IN THE 30-30, 38-55, 45-70 ETC ETC I COULD NOT HAVE ASKED FOR MORE WITH ACCURACY EASILY FOUND AND VELOCITIES IN ALL CASES WERE RIGHT AROUND 1600FPS IN THE 30-30 AND 38-55.
I BUY THE STUFF IN 10lb LOTS AND WATCH IT DISAPPEAR INTO SMOKE.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:21 pm

Couldn't say it better than Terry did. 5744. I prefer the RE-7 for hotter ammo.

Bob A · Post by **Bob A** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:56 pm

Terry and Griff, thanks for the info.

Now I need to find a supply of XMP5744. I know we have quite a few California Levergunners on this forum. Anyone know where I can find Accurate Powders? My local guy only carries Hodgdon, IMR, Winchester and Alliant.

Bob A

John Y Cannuck · Post by **John Y Cannuck** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:10 pm

Bob A wrote:In an attempt to cut the cost of my plinking habit, I am going to work up a load for 150 gr Plane Base cast for my 30-30. I would like to get 1500-1600 FPS if possible without leading.
The bullets are on order. I am told to expect BHN to be about 20.
My research, so far, tells me that XMP5744, H4198 and Reloader 7 maybe candidates.

What do you guys think?

Bob A

The choices you have there are what I use for my 45-70 cast loads. If using the 30-30 again, I'd be trying them.
I have used H4895 under a gas checked 170 in the 30-30 with good results too.

DerekR · Post by **DerekR** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:21 pm

I use 8-8.5 grains of Unique under a 165 grain plain based for a plinking load. The XMP5744 sounds like a good one too, but I always have lots of Unique around.

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:49 pm

Like the other boys--5744. I just bought two 8 pound jugs and hopefully I won't have to buy any more for a year. I use it in about 10 calibers.-------------------For the 30-30, I use 21 grains with a 175 gas check saeco bullet for 1750------------Sixgun

Post by **Chuck 100 yd** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:58 pm

I have had great luck with both 5744 and 4198. I have been shooting more 4198 lately though. I had to get my 5744 from a dealer almost 200 miles away last time

while everyone around here has 4198 on the shelf.

Gun Smith · Post by **Gun Smith** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:21 pm

Hey Bob A, If you live near Susanville, Wallyworld has it. If you go to Reno, The Rite Aid (I think) Drug store at the corner of Kietzke and Plumb has it.

Don McDowell · Post by **Don McDowell** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:24 pm

Until you can get ahold of some 5744 try 15 grs of 2400.

Bob A · Post by **Bob A** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:37 pm

Gun Smith wrote: If you live near Susanville, Wallyworld has it. If you go to Reno, The Rite Aid (I think) Drug store at the corner of Kietzke and Plumb has it.

Thanks Gun Smith, Susanville is a little off my beat but Reno might work. I used to live in Nevada, glad to know that the drug stores still sell powder and ammo.

Bob A

runfiverun · Post by **runfiverun** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:24 am

forget the drama just start with 10 gr unique
cheap easy works really well

GANJIRO · Post by **GANJIRO** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:56 am

Gun Smith wrote:Hey Bob A, The Rite Aid (I think) Drug store at the corner of Kietzke and Plumb has it.

WOW in America you can buy gun powder at the corner drug store? What a country! Here in Peoples Demokratic Republik of Hawaii this is unheard of.

El Chivo · Post by **El Chivo** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:39 am

I'm working on SR 4759 in the 30-30 for that purpose. Nice groups!

Which Powder for Plain Base Cast?

Which Powder for Plain Base Cast?

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