Gee, he only had a 100,000 rounds...
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Gee, he only had a 100,000 rounds...
You may have heard on the news about a southern California man put under 72-hour psychiatric observation after it was found he owned over 100 guns and allegedly had (by rough estimates) 100,000 rounds of ammunition stored in his home. The house also featured a secret escape tunnel.
My favorite quote from the dimwit television reporter: "Wow! He has about a quarter million machine gun bullets." The headline referred to it as a "Massive Weapons Cache!"
By southern California standards, someone owning 100,000 rounds would be called "mentally unstable."
But just imagine if he lived elsewhere:
In Arizona, he'd be called "an avid gun collector."
In Arkansas, he'd be called "a novice gun collector."
In Utah, he'd be called "moderately well prepared," but they'd probably reserve judgment until they made sure that he had a corresponding quantity of stored food.
In Colorado and Montana , he'd be called "The neighborhood 'Go-To' guy."
In Idaho , he'd be called "a likely gubernatorial candidate."
In Wyoming , he'd be called "an eligible bachelor."
In Louisiana , Mississippi and Alabama he would be called "a deer hunting buddy."
And, in Texas, he's just "Bubba" who's a little short on ammo.
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My favorite quote from the dimwit television reporter: "Wow! He has about a quarter million machine gun bullets." The headline referred to it as a "Massive Weapons Cache!"
By southern California standards, someone owning 100,000 rounds would be called "mentally unstable."
But just imagine if he lived elsewhere:
In Arizona, he'd be called "an avid gun collector."
In Arkansas, he'd be called "a novice gun collector."
In Utah, he'd be called "moderately well prepared," but they'd probably reserve judgment until they made sure that he had a corresponding quantity of stored food.
In Colorado and Montana , he'd be called "The neighborhood 'Go-To' guy."
In Idaho , he'd be called "a likely gubernatorial candidate."
In Wyoming , he'd be called "an eligible bachelor."
In Louisiana , Mississippi and Alabama he would be called "a deer hunting buddy."
And, in Texas, he's just "Bubba" who's a little short on ammo.
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Re: Gee, he only had a 100,000 rounds...
I'd call him "Junior"!!
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Re: Gee, he only had a 100,000 rounds...
There is probably a triple digit number of people here just inside the city limits that have at least that much shooting stuff.
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Re: Gee, he only had a 100,000 rounds...
Here they would count spent rounds as well as live just because it might sell more papers.
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Let me get this straight... in California 100,000 equals a quarter of a million?
No wonder they have money problems.
No wonder they have money problems.
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Re: Gee, he only had a 100,000 rounds...
is the guy in CA selling that ammo...if so...i would be interested... :)
Re: Gee, he only had a 100,000 rounds...
You have no idea. These are the same brain-dead people who think making 250,000 dollars per year makes you a millionaire.Rusty wrote:Let me get this straight... in California 100,000 equals a quarter of a million?
No wonder they have money problems.
But back to the point....I wish I had the storage for 100K rounds and 100 guns.
Some people just need a sympathetic pat on the head.....with a hammer. Repeatedly.
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In Michigan, folks would say, "Yep, deer season in just around the corner"
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I wonder how the police got the search warrant? What did this guy do to warrant a search of his home? If a good stock of guns and ammo is enough to have someone commited to a looney bin, I wouldn't be typing this, and prolly half the members here would be locked up too...
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Re: Gee, he only had a 100,000 rounds...
I am a serious offender.
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Uh Oh, I resemble that headline. Got the guns covered but would have to count the ammo. For those of U who question California math "We do the new Math here".
I hope this doesn't apply to Nor Cal.
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I hope this doesn't apply to Nor Cal.
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Under the Patriot Act and the wonderful 'War on Drugs', pretty much anyone can be subject to a warrantless search, and if nothing criminal is found, but some cool guns or other valuables the 'authorities' want to seize are found, all it takes is for something to be planted on the premesis as 'evidence' that the individual is a criminal. If it's an auto-sear, the LibTards will tar and feather the guy, and if it's a bag of marijuana, the ConservTards will do the same.mikld wrote:I wonder how the police got the search warrant? What did this guy do to warrant a search of his home?
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He had to have done something else to have gotten put under 72 hour psychiatric observation.... But it wouldn’t take much depending on the biases of the person interviewing him... In CA he's lost his right to purchase or possess firearms & ammo for five years for being put under 72 hour psychiatric observation...other states have similar...
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Doesn't require the planting of anything! Why are we so quick to implicate the PO-lice of nefarious deeds? ASK for a lawyer at your earlliest convenience. THEN... keep yer yap shut till he arrives! The guy probably said something that twitched the cop's radar. Something like, "...oh that, I'm stocking up for the zombie invasion, I've already seen a few." We can yuk it up all we want... but most cops... they're serious... Some complete stranger sez that to you... what's YOUR first thought? Now, let's say he sez it with a straight face... no smirk elbow in the ribs so you know he's just trying to be funny?AJMD429 wrote:Under the Patriot Act and the wonderful 'War on Drugs', pretty much anyone can be subject to a warrantless search, and if nothing criminal is found, but some cool guns or other valuables the 'authorities' want to seize are found, all it takes is for something to be planted on the premesis as 'evidence' that the individual is a criminal. If it's an auto-sear, the LibTards will tar and feather the guy, and if it's a bag of marijuana, the ConservTards will do the same.mikld wrote:I wonder how the police got the search warrant? What did this guy do to warrant a search of his home?
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Ben... I think depends on the result of the 72-hour observation and a hearing in front of a judge. Otherwise that' taking away one's rights w/o "due process".
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Re: Gee, he only had a 100,000 rounds...
All I know is, when I spent 2 mos living in my tiny little "Hillbilly Airstream", including two passages all to close to the NYC metro area, I was more than a little extra cautious, even though I ONLY had about 10,000 rounds and 18 firearms. I added up how many centuries I might do in jail for dreaded hollowpoint ammo if the particular road I was on did in fact slide from PeeYaa to Joisey..... Folks need to get a grip. ONE GUN and 10 bullets in the wrong hnds are FAR, FAR more dangerous than an entire truckload (which oddly the USAF entrusted me with at age 20) of automatic weapons and a half ton of ammo in sane hands ever will be.....
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Ssssssh! They're watchin' ya!Mescalero wrote:I am a serious offender.
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Griff... As far as I know, if the police hold someone in jail for 72 hour observation and decide to let them go at the end of it, that is one thing..no harm no foul.. But being held for 72 hour psychiatric observation in mental health facility is another, and will lose that person their gun rights for five years because the person that lands in there usually has been deemed to be a danger to others or to themselves.. The due process come in later...The person has a right to appeal the 5 year prohibition in court... but in the meantime they can’t own guns, and if they lose the appeal they have to wait the five years. I repeat... other states have the same or similar laws...
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Re: Gee, he only had a 100,000 rounds...
I sure was lucky getting out of Kalifonia two steps ahead of the psychiatrist.
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In Pennsylvania he would be called "Sixgun".
There must be more to the story as I usually don't keep company with anyone who has less than what that guy had, and I know a lot of people.------------Sixgun
There must be more to the story as I usually don't keep company with anyone who has less than what that guy had, and I know a lot of people.------------Sixgun
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Re: Gee, he only had a 100,000 rounds...
as best I could discover, this story is 5 years old, I found references to it on blogs from March 2007.
there is a lot more to the story than just simple possession of lots of ammo ... and the guy was retired Army Special Forces .....
here is one article ....
http://www.freethefive.org/usTerrorism/ ... e82707.htm
here is another article, copied & pasted below ......
http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 02x2968744
Source: Associated Press
Cuban exile sentenced for stash of ammo, guns in Upland home
The Associated Press
Article Launched: 08/27/2007 02:35:27 PM PDT
RIVERSIDE, Calif.—A Cuban exile who claimed that he stashed more than 1,500 guns and other weapons in his home as part of a plan to overthrow Fidel Castro was sentenced Monday to more than five years in federal prison, despite pleas for leniency.
Robert Ferro, 64, was also fined $75,000 at the hearing before U.S. District Court Judge Virginia A. Phillips. Ferro, of Upland, pleaded guilty to a single count of weapons possession earlier this year after allegedly claiming that he was storing the weapons with the knowledge of Alpha 66, a Florida-based paramilitary group that for decades has plotted to overthrow the Cuban leader.
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Police who raided Ferro's home in April 2006 discovered 35 machine guns, 130 silencers, a live hand grenade, a rocket launcher and 89,000 rounds of ammunition concealed in false walls, dummy bookshelves and hidden rooms.
Ferro, a retired Army Special Forces officer, was prohibited from owning the weapons because of a prior conviction for possession of explosives on a Pomona chicken ranch. Federal authorities alleged that Ferro was running a training camp for Mexican nationals to overthrow Castro when they found the five pounds of C-4 explosives.
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there is a lot more to the story than just simple possession of lots of ammo ... and the guy was retired Army Special Forces .....
here is one article ....
http://www.freethefive.org/usTerrorism/ ... e82707.htm
here is another article, copied & pasted below ......
http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 02x2968744
Source: Associated Press
Cuban exile sentenced for stash of ammo, guns in Upland home
The Associated Press
Article Launched: 08/27/2007 02:35:27 PM PDT
RIVERSIDE, Calif.—A Cuban exile who claimed that he stashed more than 1,500 guns and other weapons in his home as part of a plan to overthrow Fidel Castro was sentenced Monday to more than five years in federal prison, despite pleas for leniency.
Robert Ferro, 64, was also fined $75,000 at the hearing before U.S. District Court Judge Virginia A. Phillips. Ferro, of Upland, pleaded guilty to a single count of weapons possession earlier this year after allegedly claiming that he was storing the weapons with the knowledge of Alpha 66, a Florida-based paramilitary group that for decades has plotted to overthrow the Cuban leader.
(snip)
Police who raided Ferro's home in April 2006 discovered 35 machine guns, 130 silencers, a live hand grenade, a rocket launcher and 89,000 rounds of ammunition concealed in false walls, dummy bookshelves and hidden rooms.
Ferro, a retired Army Special Forces officer, was prohibited from owning the weapons because of a prior conviction for possession of explosives on a Pomona chicken ranch. Federal authorities alleged that Ferro was running a training camp for Mexican nationals to overthrow Castro when they found the five pounds of C-4 explosives.
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Re: Gee, he only had a 100,000 rounds...
I can find no semblance of anything that even begins to qualify what you are suggesting is a reasonable reaction by the cops to be remotely Constitutional, either under the 4th or 2nd amendment. MY first thought is, ok, he's got a lot of guns, cool, and God Bless America and The Constitution that allows it. Apparently cops think exactly the opposite, and you're ok with that. Please point out any illegal behavior in the hypothetical statement you made, or any illegal activity. This is exactly why people don't respect law enforcement anymore, because they don't respect our basic rights and freedoms.Griff wrote: The guy probably said something that twitched the cop's radar. Something like, "...oh that, I'm stocking up for the zombie invasion, I've already seen a few." We can yuk it up all we want... but most cops... they're serious... Some complete stranger sez that to you... what's YOUR first thought? Now, let's say he sez it with a straight face... no smirk elbow in the ribs so you know he's just trying to be funny?
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Re: Gee, he only had a 100,000 rounds...
right after he passes his evaluation....
he should sue the c*** out of them....
and then move!
he should sue the c*** out of them....
and then move!
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