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Are you calling? Buggers around here get an idea that their mates are getting killed and they vamoose with a quickness...
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
Good going Nath
Save one and hang it up side down where you don`t want crows, it spooks them and they won`t come near.
We have a last years crow hanging by the bird feeders, due for a new one.
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Nice shooting Nath. I have liked those 1 ounce loads for years for doves and quail as they are fast with nice recoil. You look like you might be standing in a field in West Texas except for the hat. We ought to send you a proper hat sometime, a baseball hat with "John Deere" on it or maybe "Spurs". All kidding aside you are the dang biggest hunting fool of an Englishman I ever saw or heard of.
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Popping crows is one of my favorite early morning "watch the sunrise activities". I generally use a 12 guage Fox or a Fox B. Eastern Illinois around the Danville area is my place when up north there. Mike in Peru
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Mescalero wrote:I think if you did that in this country, PETA would be up your nose mate.
Yea, and PETA wants to save wild hogs too. Even though they are getting to be at epidemic porportions.
Nath, that's a good job you did there. Funny how greenies want to eat veggies, but don't understand you have to control vermin in order to have something to eat. And since it barley, the beer drinkers of the world salute you.
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C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
Eating whatever eats road pizza is where I draw the line.
Bob in Friday Harbor
But really... it's different than Hog in what way?
FWIW, there are places, usually around Pecan Groves, where they do Crow Hunts like folks do dove hunts - but with no limit. We're talking hundreds of birds...
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
Eating whatever eats road pizza is where I draw the line.
Bob in Friday Harbor
But really... it's different than Hog in what way?
I gotta agree about the hogs eating anything and everything including their own dead relatives . But then the same can be said about grandma's yardbirds (chicken) .
Parkers , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s , 6.5mm's and my family in the Philippines !
Eating whatever eats road pizza is where I draw the line.
Bob in Friday Harbor
But really... it's different than Hog in what way?
I gotta agree about the hogs eating anything and everything including their own dead relatives . But then the same can be said about grandma's yardbirds (chicken) .
http://crowbusters.com/recipes.htm wrote:I'm sure you are wondering if this section is simply an elaborate practical joke to anyone visiting the page. On the contrary, we have received a great many requests asking for further information about the culinary delights to be experienced when dining on the "Black Bandit". In fact, we believe a natural prejudice has prevented most crow hunters from even considering this bird as wild game. Our experience is that the mere mention of dropping these birds on the menu brings a series of comments from other hunters as if we had just suggested stir frying up a batch of common sewer rats. And if you ever make the mistake of sharing these thoughts with a non-hunter, be prepared for the same reaction you might get if you invited them to dine with the Donner party. This is a shame since, properly prepared, the members of the Corvid family are as tasty as most other game birds and even tastier than some. Besides, with crow populations as high as they are, what an untapped resource we have at our disposal.
Historically, crows, as well as other non-songbird species have been common fare. Remember "four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie"? Our revulsion seems to center around the fact that the crow and it's close relatives are scavengers and therefore unfit to eat. Well, as far as pigs and chickens are concerned, you just wouldn't believe what these supermarket critters will stick in their mouths. Seafood? You honestly don't want to know what goes into a Blue Crab before it ends up on that expensive crab cake platter. I suppose the same goes for lobsters. The list goes on.
In short, it's really just our cultural prejudice that limits our possibilities. You know, maybe crow meat just needs some clever marketing terminology. Look what they did for Sweet Breads and Escargot...
It will come as little surprise to anyone that even the biggest crow doesn't make much of a meal. However, the fact that it is often possible to take large numbers at a time can compensate for this. Since a morning shoot can easily net from 10 to 100 birds, you want to limit the amount of time necessary to clean each bird. Put out of your head any idea of plucking a crow like you would a goose or duck. Besides the breast meat, there just isn't enough edible meat on a crow to make it worthwhile. Using the technique described below, you can extract the best meat of a crow within a minute or two with very little mess.
1. Lay the crow on it's back in front of you with it's head pointed to the right.
2. Take a finger and locate where the breast bone meets the upper abdomen.
3. With a sharp knife, make a cut across the crow (wing to wing) below the breast bone. Don't be concerned about cutting toodeep, no edible meat will be damaged with this cut.
4. Holding the birds feet with your left hand, place 2 or 3 fingers under the skin where the cut was made and pull in opposite directions. The skinless breast meat should now be exposed.
5. Take the knife again and separate each breast half away from the bone starting in the middle and working outward. You should end up with 2 lime sized pieces of crow breast. Discard the remains properly.
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
Eating whatever eats road pizza is where I draw the line.
Bob in Friday Harbor
But really... it's different than Hog in what way?
I gotta agree about the hogs eating anything and everything including their own dead relatives . But then the same can be said about grandma's yardbirds (chicken) .
http://crowbusters.com/recipes.htm wrote:I'm sure you are wondering if this section is simply an elaborate practical joke to anyone visiting the page. On the contrary, we have received a great many requests asking for further information about the culinary delights to be experienced when dining on the "Black Bandit". In fact, we believe a natural prejudice has prevented most crow hunters from even considering this bird as wild game. Our experience is that the mere mention of dropping these birds on the menu brings a series of comments from other hunters as if we had just suggested stir frying up a batch of common sewer rats. And if you ever make the mistake of sharing these thoughts with a non-hunter, be prepared for the same reaction you might get if you invited them to dine with the Donner party. This is a shame since, properly prepared, the members of the Corvid family are as tasty as most other game birds and even tastier than some. Besides, with crow populations as high as they are, what an untapped resource we have at our disposal.
Historically, crows, as well as other non-songbird species have been common fare. Remember "four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie"? Our revulsion seems to center around the fact that the crow and it's close relatives are scavengers and therefore unfit to eat. Well, as far as pigs and chickens are concerned, you just wouldn't believe what these supermarket critters will stick in their mouths. Seafood? You honestly don't want to know what goes into a Blue Crab before it ends up on that expensive crab cake platter. I suppose the same goes for lobsters. The list goes on.
In short, it's really just our cultural prejudice that limits our possibilities. You know, maybe crow meat just needs some clever marketing terminology. Look what they did for Sweet Breads and Escargot...
Even knowing what a chicken , hog , crab or lobster may eat I still have no problem consumming them. And even though I LIKE escargot . I still cannot see myself eating crows although I have been known to drink a wee dram of "Old Crow" in the past
Incidently when I was a kid a chicken or hog had a ZERO life expectantcy around our house . And while we didn't see as much of ocean crabs or lobsters their life was never a question either , as they got eaten PDQ also !
Parkers , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s , 6.5mm's and my family in the Philippines !
Well, some folks won't eat squirrel, possum, 'coon or bear either...
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
Old Ironsights wrote:Well, some folks won't eat squirrel, possum, 'coon or bear either...
OI,
Logic doesn't always work!
Sigh. Yeah. But I'm grumpy at the moment 'cause there's nothing legal to hunt right now but 'coons, 'yotes, jackrabbits, skunks and foxes... and about the only thing around here are 'coons, 'yotes & skunks (prairie-dogs too...). And while I've had some good 'coon, it's not something *I* am good at cooking.
Crows aren't "legal" until November, no matter how many show up to eat your seed stock.
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
Nice shootin' Nath, GK Jr would would be proud of you, he hates all Corvids with a vengeance..
Currently I have a pair of Magpies move in but no chance of a shot yet.
Whatever you do always give 100%........... unless you are donating blood.
game keeper wrote:Nice shootin' Nath, GK Jr would would be proud of you, he hates all Corvids with a vengeance..
Currently I have a pair of Magpies move in but no chance of a shot yet.
Get this (Nath/GK):
Originally, crows were simply classified as varmints and could be shot anytime of the year. However, the U.S. has negotiated a treaty with the Mexican government to protect several species that move back and forth between the two countries. The treaty covers the entire major bird family Corvidae, which includes crows, ravens and jays. So without it necessarily being intended, the crow is now a protected species with limitations on how they can be hunted. The sport season for crows can be for no more than 124 days and can't occur during the peak breeding period in each state.
Bloody Politicians & their "unintended consequences"...
I'm always amazed at the small game hunting you guys get to do, and how much you get to do it. Are there no seasons, or are the critters you are shooting all considered vermin?
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
game keeper wrote:Nice shootin' Nath, GK Jr would would be proud of you, he hates all Corvids with a vengeance..
Currently I have a pair of Magpies move in but no chance of a shot yet.
Get this (Nath/GK):
Originally, crows were simply classified as varmints and could be shot anytime of the year. However, the U.S. has negotiated a treaty with the Mexican government to protect several species that move back and forth between the two countries. The treaty covers the entire major bird family Corvidae, which includes crows, ravens and jays. So without it necessarily being intended, the crow is now a protected species with limitations on how they can be hunted. The sport season for crows can be for no more than 124 days and can't occur during the peak breeding period in each state.
Bloody Politicians & their "unintended consequences"...
I'm always amazed at the small game hunting you guys get to do, and how much you get to do it. Are there no seasons, or are the critters you are shooting all considered vermin?
Yes, a lot of what we hunt is considered vermin, so no close seasons or bag limits for Crows, Rooks, Jackdaws, Jays and Magpies, Ravens are protected as they are rare in most places. Foxes, Rabbits and Grey Squirrels too are considered vermin, likewise Wood Pigeon and Collared Doves so there are no bag limits or close seasons. Canada Geese are also now considered vermin due to the increase in their numbers.
Deer and Hares do have close seasons likewise all Gamebirds and Wildfowl but still no bag limits.
Whatever you do always give 100%........... unless you are donating blood.
game keeper wrote:Nice shootin' Nath, GK Jr would would be proud of you, he hates all Corvids with a vengeance..
Currently I have a pair of Magpies move in but no chance of a shot yet.
Get this (Nath/GK):
Originally, crows were simply classified as varmints and could be shot anytime of the year. However, the U.S. has negotiated a treaty with the Mexican government to protect several species that move back and forth between the two countries. The treaty covers the entire major bird family Corvidae, which includes crows, ravens and jays. So without it necessarily being intended, the crow is now a protected species with limitations on how they can be hunted. The sport season for crows can be for no more than 124 days and can't occur during the peak breeding period in each state.
Bloody Politicians & their "unintended consequences"...
I'm always amazed at the small game hunting you guys get to do, and how much you get to do it. Are there no seasons, or are the critters you are shooting all considered vermin?
Yes, a lot of what we hunt is considered vermin, so no close seasons or bag limits for Crows, Rooks, Jackdaws, Jays and Magpies, Ravens are protected as they are rare in most places. Foxes, Rabbits and Grey Squirrels too are considered vermin, likewise Wood Pigeon and Collared Doves so there are no bag limits or close seasons. Canada Geese are also now considered vermin due to the increase in their numbers.
Deer and Hares do have close seasons likewise all Gamebirds and Wildfowl but still no bag limits.
GK, has it changed for Hares? I thought there was no closed season but the sale of hares through March was not allowed??
Old Shatterhand wrote:
Nath wrote:---I was using a fast 1oz load of english 6s with fiber wads, ---
Eley Impax? Perhaps the best cartridge ever for pheasants, pidgeons and crow.
And a fine job - a shot crow is a good crow. (BTW - there are two sorts of crows: unshot and shot.)
Pete
No Sir, not Eley Impax although an outstanding shell. A competitor from Hull cartridge.
[quote="Nath
Deer and Hares do have close seasons likewise all Gamebirds and Wildfowl but still no bag limits.[/quote]
GK, has it changed for Hares? I thought there was no closed season but the sale of hares through March was not allowed??
.[/quote]
My bad, you are correct sir, Hares can be shot all year round but not sold during the breeding season.
Also Game Birds and Hares can not be shot on Sundays or Christmas day. (I think)
Whatever you do always give 100%........... unless you are donating blood.
game keeper wrote:[quote="Nath
Deer and Hares do have close seasons likewise all Gamebirds and Wildfowl but still no bag limits.
GK, has it changed for Hares? I thought there was no closed season but the sale of hares through March was not allowed??
.[/quote]
My bad, you are correct sir, Hares can be shot all year round but not sold during the breeding season.
Also Game Birds and Hares can not be shot on Sundays or Christmas day. (I think) [/quote]
Part of the reason people don't want to eat crow is cultural. Like crabs, many people in the not-so-distant past have see crows feeding on human dead.
Historically crows are associated with human warfare, and are often the first to begin feeding on the fallen. This symbolism continues in TV and cinema to this day.
I have not tried to shoot a crow since I was in high school, using a Crosman pneumatic BB gun in my parents suburban back yard. Part of the reason I stopped doing so was I began to believe (around the age of 18 or 19) that it was wrong to kill an animal and not try to eat it, unless in real fear for my life.
I may just have to try it now.
If I do so, they will certainly be cooked "well done"!
junkbug wrote:Part of the reason people don't want to eat crow is cultural. Like crabs, many people in the not-so-distant past have see crows feeding on human dead.
Historically crows are associated with human warfare, and are often the first to begin feeding on the fallen. This symbolism continues in TV and cinema to this day.
I have not tried to shoot a crow since I was in high school, using a Crosman pneumatic BB gun in my parents suburban back yard. Part of the reason I stopped doing so was I began to believe (around the age of 18 or 19) that it was wrong to kill an animal and not try to eat it, unless in real fear for my life.
I may just have to try it now.
If I do so, they will certainly be cooked "well done"!
Interesting JB, I personally kill anything that is not recieving enough natural predation and is out of control and even maybe harming lesser species. Conservation work if you like.
I enjoy the varied song bird life around my home these days. When we moved here there was only crows and magpies. Due to my efforts we have much more varied bird song in the mornings now
