Heads Up! Better Stock Up....

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:34 pm

on reloading gear, powder, primers, brass, bullets, whatever . Round 2 is coming our way! This just came to me fresh from the horse's mouth who is an industry insider. In fact, he told me it is already happening as the graph chart is showing much higher than normal sales this time of the year.

The gunshop owners in my area have told me they never had this much business in their first quarter. My buddy Tommy, who owns Targetmaster tells me he cannot get enough Glocks, 1911's, snubby 'Smiths, etc.

Anybody been to a quality gunshow lately? The aisles are packed and I noticed something different........where you usually see the same people, the aisles are now packed with semi-gun people, you know, the once a year shooters.

No, I'm not feeding this BS and its not a ploy to get us to spend our money......Its a reality with the election coming up. So..........beat those idiots who when they were asked if they wanted a "brain", they thought they were being asked "train" and said, "I'll take a slow one".

You know, the dummies from Cast Boolits, Ruger Forums etc.

The Levergunners will be prepared!

-------------Sixgun

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:48 pm

Sixgun,
It is election year, the republicans are going to run Mitt Romney, which will assure the reelection of the incumbent.
This too shall pass.
In the immortal words of Will Rogers" congress is in session..... and no man's property is safe!"

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:08 pm

I'm thinking food and water and toilet paper and so on, this time; the economy is on life-support...

chadbr · Post by **chadbr** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:41 pm

I've heard the same from several shops... But the shelves look pretty full to me. Companies are producing as fast as they can after the last go around. And prices seem relatively stable stable to me?

PackinPreacher · Post by **PackinPreacher** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:17 pm

What a shame! The hoarders from the last scare have barely been able to scalp all of the ammo that they grabbed off the shelves from the last time that the sky was falling.

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:26 pm

jnyork · Post by **jnyork** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:04 pm

PackinPreacher wrote:What a shame! The hoarders from the last scare have barely been able to scalp all of the ammo that they grabbed off the shelves from the last time that the sky was falling.

Prudence is not stockpiling.

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:14 am

Yea, and the funny thing about this is that WE are the cause of all this stupidity.

Oh well, One thing for sure, I'll be shootin' as much as I'm used to---with lots of trade stock.

You snooze---you lose.

BenT · Post by **BenT** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:04 am

Buying more wheel weights next week, I should be at seven hundred pounds to melt down. But I do need to stock up on small pistol,small rifle primers and 22 ammo, then I should be set for a while. I usually like to keep about 5k of 22 ammo ,but my son keeps shooting it up .

Catshooter · Post by **Catshooter** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:06 pm

Well sixgun, the "dummies" from Cast Boolits beat ya to it. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=146681

As you said, 'You snooze you loose."

Signed,

One of the Dummies from Cast Boolits.

Les Staley · Post by **Les Staley** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:24 pm

I'm still stocked up from the last scare.. no more room...

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:29 pm

Les Staley wrote:I'm still stocked up from the last scare.. no more room...

Me too -- i could always stand to add a few more boxes of primers and kegs of powder though

L_Kilkenny · Post by **L_Kilkenny** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:11 pm

May be some short falls coming, there might not be. We'll just have to wait and see on that front but I'm not believing before seeing. Hysteria is what fueled the last scare. But I'm not in as bad of shape as I was last time. Truth be told that when centerfire supplies get hard to find I can have a pretty easy time putting up the centerfire guns without too many withdraws. There's maybe a couple hundred $$ that I should/could buy but I'm not staying awake nights over it.

What I really need to get stocked up on is more rimfire ammo. The centerfire supply crunch of a couple years ago was bad enough but the gun show dealers buying up all the rimfire ammo to sell at a 100% mark up is what hurt. It also peeved me off the most. On a business front I have no problem with what they were doing as long as they don't have a problem with me never buying anything from them and bashin them at every chance I get. A few more bricks of Fed. bulk and an extra brick or 2 of MiniMags should tide me over.

Next on my list should be shotgun ammo. I've don't shoot shotguns much but it's foolish of me to not have a few hundred rounds on hand for the most versatile guns available.

LK

Catshooter · Post by **Catshooter** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:38 pm

Kilkenny,

I do agree. Nothing wrong with making a profit, all businesses need to to survive.

However, there is also taking an advantage too far. During the height of the last crisis I went to a small show and there was a dealer there who never raised his prices more than his normal markup rates. When his primer cost doubled it showed in his retail pricing. But he was way lower than everybody else.

I didn't need much then as I was well stocked but I made sure to give him all the business I could. Good guy.

Cat

Post by **Hobie** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:42 pm

For many of us rimfire will be the most usable and the most tradeworthy.

Les Staley · Post by **Les Staley** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:28 pm

I could feed the wife and myself for YEARS with a 22 rimfire and a brick of LRs.. (there's ten years supply of meat outside the house on BLM right now, as I type this).. maybe get a litte tired of antelope meat...

tman · Post by **tman** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:42 pm

Taking advantage for profit of the simple minded is morally wrong no matter how u cut it.

COSteve · Post by **COSteve** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:55 pm

I stocked up well before the last scare only because I got in on some club buys that were really good deals. When our club puts one together, I buy heavy so I'm not forced to scrounge at high prices. I've still got plenty to last me for a couple more years.

jdad · Post by **jdad** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:58 pm

Hobie wrote:For many of us rimfire will be the most usable and the most tradeworthy.

Absolutely!

damienph · Post by **damienph** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:17 pm

Well, truth be known, I do have plenty of reloading supplies to last for several years but I do honestly believe that this time around will be more than just a "scare". Obama has nothing to lose in his second go'round (and I also do believe that he will have one) and I do believe that he and Eric Holder will do as much as they can to implement a tougher version of Clinton's ban. I plan on getting enough to last; I am 58 and I do believe that our sport is in serious jeopardy. Fortunately, I am at the stage and means in life where I can stock pile enough to shoot ALL of my guns for the forseeable future and still have stuff left over to pass to my child.

I know that some here believe that our gun ownership will continue no matter who "leads" our country but I do not and I am spending my funds accordingly.

Catshooter · Post by **Catshooter** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:57 pm

Yes, I agree damien. I feel that to have enough for a few years would be highly optimistic. Unless one doesn't have the resources, that's another story.

Cat

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:44 pm

yep,
Thanks!
1K of 40 S&W 180gr FMJ MagTech got today!

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:24 pm

Catshooter wrote:Nothing wrong with making a profit, all businesses need to to survive.

Yes - AND the increased price-point means that the free-market will work as usual - by increasing the incentive to produce MORE ammo, which in turn not only satisfies the demand/market, BUT actually will lead to lower prices...!

Whenever people gripe about 'price gouging', they need to remember that the way to decrease prices and improve supply is to ALLOW so-called gouging, which spurs more production. Stifling it by legislation simply vents our anger on a few suppliers, and reduces the incentive to produce more and lower prices.

Note RUGER has "suspended wholesale sales" recently. . . ? Very interesting!

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2 ... bout-obama

COSteve · Post by **COSteve** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:18 pm

I don't think YOmama has the stomach for taking on the gun lobby. I know that the Dems are still smarting from getting turned out in droves after they passed the Assault Weapons Band back in 1994. They have zero interest in getting thrown out again if they pass another one and with the Supreme Court decisions, they have even less chance of sustaining a restrictive law like that again. I'm not saying that we shouldn't be vigilant, but they understand that gun control is a 'dog that just won't hunt.'

damienph · Post by **damienph** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:22 pm

madman4570 wrote:yep,
Thanks!
1K of 40 S&W 180gr FMJ MagTech got today!

At the risk of getting off topic, here... I have had very good luck with MagTech FMJs for my 32ACP and 158gr JSPs for my 38 special (bag was marked specific for 38 not 357) they were very accurate out of my S&W M15.

Catshooter · Post by **Catshooter** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:23 pm

I think you're probably right Steve, tough law to get passed.

But I could see him signing an executive order creating a tax on all things gun related. You know, to help pay for the health care costs of "gun violence". Like 500% or so. For the children.

Cat

damienph · Post by **damienph** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:30 pm

COSteve wrote:I don't think YOmama has the stomach for taking on the gun lobby. I know that the Dems are still smarting from getting turned out in droves after they passed the Assault Weapons Band back in 1994. They have zero interest in getting thrown out again if they pass another one and with the Supreme Court decisions, they have even less chance of sustaining a restrictive law like that again. I'm not saying that we shouldn't be vigilant, but they understand that gun control is a 'dog that just won't hunt.'

I don't agree; as a first termer he couldn't risk it but as a second (and last) term president, there is no risk. At least not to him. And frankly, I don't believe that he is concerned about the careers of fellow democrats. It is all about him; hard decisions for the "good" of the country. Getting rid of whatever guns/guns related paraphernalia is just a cost of politics. A high cost for some, but for Obama, whose electable political career will effectively be over in 2016; no cost is too high.

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:26 am

Was at the largest shop in Tucson today and it was like deja vu all over again - NO large or small pistol primers.

Oly

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:57 am

damienph wrote: I don't agree; as a first termer he couldn't risk it but as a second (and last) term president, there is no risk. At least not to him. And frankly, I don't believe that he is concerned about the careers of fellow democrats. It is all about him; hard decisions for the "good" of the country. Getting rid of whatever guns/guns related paraphernalia is just a cost of politics. A high cost for some, but for Obama, whose electable political career will effectively be over in 2016; no cost is too high.

Right! Its all about him, Yomama! (no smiley face) (I like that COsteve)

And you know what, this gunny thing is all about me and like minded individuals

In other words, like I already said, "you snooze--you lose"

I ain't losing.

We all take for granted that things will always be this way or that way and it will all be "nice and rosey" down the road. That "bad" things cannot happen.

Well, I tell you boys, my grandfather (my mothers side) knew better too. My mother remembers (as a small child) her father saying that this new leader we have (Hitler) is a very dangerous person and we need to take precautions. Is what my mother remembers most is that the nice people, who were honest and optimistic were the ones who lived lives of destitution. (Einstein got the hell out

)

She remembered the Jews being rounded up, the liberties being taken away, the food shortages, the extreme fear of day to day survival. My grandfather was no dummy. (like the guys from Cast Boolits

) (just being funny Cat Shooter

)

My mom said after the war that the first thing she wanted to do was to hit the road and get out of this God forsaken country. She married the first GI that showed her affection (My Pappa

) (I really don't know if that part is true)

God rest her soul. I think of my parents every hour of every day. They instilled in me the #1 priority in life---survival.

I owe my existence to my grandfather. He was a very cunning and smart individual.

YES, it can happen. look around you---the world is vastly overpopulated--the ragheads want to kill us---the hard work and its fruits of the labor are going to the bums of this nation.

I ain't saying we all need to start hyperventilating on this issue---Just be prepared and go about living your life and enjoy all of the fun and fulfillment it offers.

You don't have to go the route of the "Doomsday Preppers---but thats not really a bad idea And if the muslim (small "m") hits the fan, your good to go ---------Sixgun
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Ray Newman · Post by **Ray Newman** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:21 pm

“Note RUGER has "suspended wholesale sales" recently. . . ? Very interesting!
-- ADJM429

For those who will not bother to read the link, and/or will imagine or start an Obama/government conspiracy about this, there is a valid business reason behind Ruger‘s action:

“On Wednesday, gun maker Sturm, Ruger & Co. announced the company was forced to temporarily suspend its acceptance of any new firearms orders due to a barrage of wholesale orders — more than 1 million in 2012 alone. Last year the company shipped a total of 1.1 million firearms. This massive push ‘exceeds our capacity to rapidly fulfill these orders,‘ the Connecticut company said in a news release, adding that it expects to resume normal operations by the end of May.”

Read all ‘bout it:
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2 ... bout-obama

rimrock · Post by **rimrock** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:06 pm

I plan to buy more .22LR before the November 2012 election, and more primers, and another jug of powder. I certainly want at least one more lever gun before November 2012, and I'd like to buy 2-3 other guns, but college expenses for the kids keep getting in the way. My extended family would be alright for years if something foolish concerning the 2nd Amendment happened in the near future. Several of us have places for the meet up if the need arises.

It's never been more important than now to use the power you and your family have. Vote every one of the incumbents out, each and every time. We don't need career politicians. Obama wants us to borrow another $15 TRILLION over the next 10 years--enough already!!

rimrock

CBinNH · Post by **CBinNH** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:05 am

A note on the Ruger story from a guy in the area of their Newport NH plant. They have been looking for help for months. Locally, they are using employment services to find help. Over a month ago, they were looking for 180 workers. Last ad I heard on the radio said they still need 100. They are even offering a stipend for commuters. Looks like the labor pool in the Newport area is lean.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:53 am

CBinNH wrote:A note on the Ruger story from a guy in the area of their Newport NH plant. They have been looking for help for months. Locally, they are using employment services to find help. Over a month ago, they were looking for 180 workers. Last ad I heard on the radio said they still need 100. They are even offering a stipend for commuters. Looks like the labor pool in the Newport area is lean.

The sad thing is that (A) it would cost me more to move there than i could ever recoup and (B) the east coast working for a gun company is not a good place to be for the next UN sponsored Obama/Romney administration.

Which is too bad, because I would really like to work for a gun company. But since most of them are in the East Cost Obliteration Zone.... well...

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:57 am

I am going to Big 5, 100 9mm 115 gr. for 29.00

Missouri Mule · Post by **Missouri Mule** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:08 pm

Athens, Tennessee

jnyork · Post by **jnyork** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:54 pm

CBinNH wrote:A note on the Ruger story from a guy in the area of their Newport NH plant. They have been looking for help for months. Locally, they are using employment services to find help. Over a month ago, they were looking for 180 workers. Last ad I heard on the radio said they still need 100. They are even offering a stipend for commuters. Looks like the labor pool in the Newport area is lean.

They are no doubt facing the same problems every other American company is facing:
Cant find anyone who wants to work.
Cant find anyone who knows how to work.
Cant find anyone who has the skills to work.
Cant find anyone who can pass the bottle test.

CBinNH · Post by **CBinNH** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:06 pm

The pay scale in small NH towns won't draw too many prospective workers either.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:22 pm

jnyork wrote:
CBinNH wrote:A note on the Ruger story from a guy in the area of their Newport NH plant. They have been looking for help for months. Locally, they are using employment services to find help. Over a month ago, they were looking for 180 workers. Last ad I heard on the radio said they still need 100. They are even offering a stipend for commuters. Looks like the labor pool in the Newport area is lean.

They are no doubt facing the same problems every other American company is facing:
Cant find anyone who wants to work.
Cant find anyone who knows how to work.
Cant find anyone who has the skills to work.
Cant find anyone who can pass the bottle test.

Insist on having their companies in Urban Obliteration Zones...

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:22 pm

I would not mind either, but I vowed years ago to never go east of the Canadian River again.

handirifle · Post by **handirifle** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:07 pm

COSteve wrote:I don't think YOmama has the stomach for taking on the gun lobby. I know that the Dems are still smarting from getting turned out in droves after they passed the Assault Weapons Band back in 1994. They have zero interest in getting thrown out again if they pass another one and with the Supreme Court decisions, they have even less chance of sustaining a restrictive law like that again. I'm not saying that we shouldn't be vigilant, but they understand that gun control is a 'dog that just won't hunt.'

What the Dems HAVE learned is a frontal assajult on our rights is not productive, BUT a back door assault on the second amendment is very real and very possible. How? Just look into what Hillary and Obummer are both in favor of and it's the UN small arms limitation treaty. In a back door attack, this will, according to them, just affect small arms sales to foreign nations, to limit the amount of guns the revolutionaries can obtain. However, in reality it also limits the number and type of guns that can be sold within those countries, and they have to meet UN APPROVAL, for sales and personal ownership.

Folks this thing is real and those two, as well as Holder are all in for it. It DOES have to ratified by Congress, but we have seen how he has made public comments that he will use the power of Executive Orders to get around what he calls, "a do nothing congress", for the "good of the people". Do not think for a minute that he will not pull stuff like this in his second term, like was said, HE has nothing to lose. By the time he is out of office, it will not matter.

Revolutionaries, by the way, as many in this nation are fully aware, sometimes NEED to revolt. I will say no more on that topic as I do believe there are big eyes and ears out there. Not paranoid, just realistic.

model55 · Post by **model55** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:24 pm

Stock the pantry,if nothing else.I did notice the last time that shotgun shells were in no shortage around here.Too bad I'm not much of a shotgun shooter.Russian ammo didn't seem to be affected either but the local guys don't stock often so it was a gun show deal or mail order.No black rifles here so my Mosin Nagant has two tins of ammo or a life time supply plus.......

GonnePhishin · Post by **GonnePhishin** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:07 pm

I don't think YOmama has the stomach for taking on the gun lobby

I wouldn't be too sure on that. Desperate people will do desperate things, now that the rule of law has been trashed.

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:08 pm

Mescalero wrote:I am going to Big 5, 100 9mm 115 gr. for 29.00

Don't run right out and do that if you haven't already. You should be able to find 9mm for close to ten bucks a box. In fact, several outlets are advertising them online for less than that. I think Wally World has 9mm for less than $14.50 a box too. (?)

Oly

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:13 pm

100 9mm for $10.00?

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:40 pm

Mescalero wrote:100 9mm for $10.00?

I wish! No, for ten bucks a box of fitty which would be nine dollars less than $29 for 100!

Twelve bucks for fifty is more common these days though I have to admit.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting ... t104372280

Oly

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:54 pm

Wal mart 36th & Thomas & 18.60 for 50

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:02 pm

Mescalero wrote:Wal mart 36th & Thomas & 18.60 for 50

Terrible!

Well, Cabelas is running free shipping right now but it's limited so don't delay - I gave you a link there to 9mm they've got on sale at much cheaper than 18.50 a box and it's good stuff (I've shot a lot of that brand - it's excellent). I can find many more like it on the internet with just a few clicks.

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/federal ... 26408.html

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_i ... m-fmj-ammo

Hey seriously, I'm not trying to be a smart alec, it's just that I shoot 9mm a lot so I know what the "going rate" is. If a fellow is willing to mail order or wait for local sales (we had 9mm on sale locally for $10.99 a box just last month) it is one of the most economical (if not the cheapest) to shoot if you're not a reloader (I'm not). If you live in the sticks then the free shipping specials can really be key to getting a good deal. Ammoman prices are always shipping included:

http://ammoman.com/p/168/9mm-sellier-be ... -grain-fmj

That's $11.49 a box shipping included, no tax, directly to your door! I use those guys a lot, they're great.

Best,
Oly

Lastmohecken · Post by **Lastmohecken** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:33 pm

You can pick the full metal jacket ammo pretty cheap, but the good stuff (hollowpoints) will be double.

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:05 am

Lastmohecken wrote:You can pick the full metal jacket ammo pretty cheap, but the good stuff (hollowpoints) will be double.

Yes, it's more for sure, but thankfully there's no need to plink or practice with the expensive stuff.

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/fiocchi ... 08715.html

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/fiocchi ... 08716.html

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/bronze- ... 75549.html

This is kind of a nice deal here on some FMJ, brass ammo. It comes shipped in a plastic ammo "can" worth a few bucks for sure and shipping is free from Cabelas right now:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Herters- ... l+Products

Oly

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:43 pm

Missouri Mule wrote:Athens, Tennessee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncdXfUAkMUI