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I don't know what I think about that. I don't think ventilating his daughter's computer will really change her ways. He could have given the computer to a kid who needed it, saved a mag of rounds, and not set kind of a bad example shooting things up when you're mad.
Teenagers can push you over the edge into crazyville sometimes. Hopefully his daughter will out grow it. Parenting in the modern era isn't easy that's for sure.
I can understand the rage, but I don't agree with the punishment. Parents need to parent. I see it everyday where parents allow their children to surf the web without any supervision. They use it as a babysitting tool and then wonder why their child does or posts something inappropriate on the web. Again, parents need to parent.
kimwcook wrote:I can understand the rage, but I don't agree with the punishment. Parents need to parent. I see it everyday where parents allow their children to surf the web without any supervision. They use it as a babysitting tool and then wonder why their child does or posts something inappropriate on the web. Again, parents need to parent.
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Sometimes I wonder if it is worthwhile gnawing through the leather straps to get up in the morning..................
Hmm, had I shown that type of disrespect to my parents, I would likely still have had the bruises. I know it'n not PC to physically punish children today, but frankly, many of the problems with today's kids are because parents have "spared the rod and spoiled the child". Grounded and being denied electronic "toys". The kid got off lucky.
Yes, I know some psychologist would label me some sort of monster, but I can proudly point to both of my sons and say, "there is a polite, respectful, and responsible adult". Did they kick up there heels. Of course, but the type of lanugage and disrespectful comments about their parents would never have entered there mind.
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I don't really see anything wrong with it. May not have been the perfect way to handle the situation, but he showed her that he means what he says. Maybe a bit of an overly dramatic way to get the point across, what with shooting those "exploding hollow point" rounds and whatnot, but hey, some people like drama.
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen" - Samuel Adams
Our kids were "turned loose" on the net as a PROCESS of living up to responsibility and following house rules that spanned years. I never shot up a 'puter, but have threatened to sever a modem cable or two when my youngest, a great kid who just won a nice scholorship and has NEVER been in trouble, not so much as a note from a teacher EVER, was pushing his school night "lights out" limit a couple years ago.
Kids need to know there are consequences to actions and exactly what WILL happen if they get busted..... I am sure there is absolutely ZERO doubt in my son's mind that he'd find his 'net umbilical cut if he pushed it.....
One of the sadly funniest things I've seen also relates to this.
I was in an In 'n Out Burger slightly north of San Diego late last year for lunch. A somewhat young lady was in front of me attempting to place a takeout order and she had a precocious six to eight year old with her.
Did I say precocious? No, she was a flaming, around-the-bend totally spoiled brat.
The little heathen was attempting to have a conversation with the counter staff which hinged somewhere around New Orleans and Katrina, I could not find the gist of it. At first mommy was telling her not to interrupt, then to 'be quiet' then attempting to bribe her with food.
All the while the little brat kept getting louder and louder and more demanding, almost screaming 'don't interrupt me!' and even hitting on mom to get her attention when she tried to ignore her.
This wasn't thirty seconds, it went on for several minutes.
The counter girl, an older black teenager (maybe that was the Katrina tie-in, I'll never know) had this deer-in-the-headlights look as though an axe murder was taking place in front of her.
I would cheerfully give up a weeks paycheck if I could go back in time and tell myself, 'have your phone ready to record video, you. are. not. going. to. believe. this!" I would post that video on youtube and probably make a lot of money off of it.
This little girl is being raised like a feral animal and everyone around her, including her are in for rough times in the coming years.
Apples don't fall very far from their trees - the only difference between some small folks and some bigger folks, is that the bigger ones know more words. .
Dave wrote:I don't know what I think about that. I don't think ventilating his daughter's computer will really change her ways. He could have given the computer to a kid who needed it, saved a mag of rounds, and not set kind of a bad example shooting things up when you're mad.
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Just posting the video was hilarious enough. Giving the Laptop to a needy family (also on vid) would have been even better.
Misuse of a firearm in a very public (now viral) video? Bad mojo. Bad RKBA PR.
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
Y2K and his little sister learned one of my bedrock principles very early in their lives. I told them that they would have many friends in their lives, but only one Mom and Dad. We were their parents first and foremost - and friends way down the list. If either of my children did this, I would do the same thing if not more. Probably use a 12 gauge. Actually, I'd make them shoot their own laptop, and they'd never get another one from us.
Kids - heck, most adults - just don't understand that one's choices and actions have consequences - and the person making the choice/action carries the responsibility. As the old TV show went, "don't do the crime if you can't do the time". To me, one of the most prevalent forms of "child abuse" is parents who are so wimpy that they won't teach this reality to their children. Thus, we get Democrats, leftists, communist revolutionaries and the current crop of "Occu-turds".
For those that feel the need to keep calling the police and CPS. lol
Apparently both the local police and the department of social services are OK with it. Yes they came. Of course they came. They received enough "Oh my god he's going to kill his daughter" comments that they had to. I knew that the moment it went viral.. it was too late and it was inevitable. I'm only surprised it took as long as it did to be honest.
The police by the way said "Kudos, Sir" and most of them made their kids watch it. I actually had a "thank you" from an entire detectives squad. And another police officer is using it in a positive manner in his presentation for the school system. How's about those apples? Didn't expect THAT when you called the cops did you?
The kind lady from Child Protective Services looked all through the house, the yard, and found ours to be a healthy home. She saw the unloaded guns in their rack with the magazines removed and stored separately and safely. Funny thing: The case officer asked to see "the gun".... "Umm, sir, may I see the actual..umm.. weapon used for the video?" She wasn't at all scared of me but I could tell she doesn't like guns as a general rule. To each their own though. She was comfortable that I was adhering to NC gun safety regulations for the protection of minors, and that's all she needed. But of course if you want to continue, I'm just going to leave a pot of coffee on for the next officers who come by. (Digress: Maybe I can get Krispy Kreme to sponsor me with lifetime donuts? Oh God that would be heaven. Dunkin? stuff... KK all the way....)
Look at the italicized red.
Yo, "dad". The reason those absurd, unconstitutional "laws" exist is because of people like you and your very public misuse of firearms. Idiot.
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
The dad might be a jerk, but for a person of your political bent, that was the last thing I would have expected to hear.. He's on his own property, shooting his own property ( I'm only asking because in this case, our opinions seem to be reversed...and I doubt that any laws were broken)
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Well, My little computer will not function well enough to pull this vidio thing up and run it. As to respect to one's parents, I called my father and mother "Sir and Ma'am" until the day I buried them. I was raised to have total respect for them, and all others. Guess I am really from the 'Old School' and that's fine with me.
As to shooting a laptop, I did that last year when mine went haywire and I couldn't stand it after 2 hours of trying to get it to act right. Yes, I shot it four times with a .45-70 at my own range and I never felt so relieved! I think there should be a season for computers and no limit on the number you shoot!
Kids that have disrespect? Deal with them in the proper manner when they are young. Teach them HOW to be respectful and this 'problem' would never have happened....
Old Ironsights wrote:... The reason those absurd, unconstitutional "laws" exist is because of people like you and your very public misuse of firearms.
A point of disagreement.
I'm in the school that says those laws exist because a very few careless gun-owners allowed their unsecured firearms to fall into minor hands which then proceeded to remove said minor's brains or to otherwise injure that same or other available minors, or to commit some low-skill level felony crime.
I'm not saying that I agree with the laws, but I believe that they originally came about "for the children".
Government office attracts the power-mad, yet it's people who just want to be left alone to live life on their own terms who are considered dangerous.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
I got my angels from China when I turned 50. Parenting has been a challenge. Dolls for little kids dressed like hookers, MTV porn channel, schoolyard language that makes a Marine blush. My kids are young enough that they like Mom and dad, 8 and 10.
Being older Barb and I dragged some of the fifties into our children's upbringing. Some of my upbringing should remain in the last century and did. Personally I made a mental list of the battles that should never be lost seperate from general discipline. In the end children reflect what we model. If I disrespect my wife they disrespect their mother. Considering this thread I realize that I spend way too much time on the computer and cell phone (both fun and business), time to change that. I'll get back to TV and forums after their bedtime. Some examples:
Never disrespect your mother, Barb is the heart of our family and has earned our devotion
Modesty in behavior
Your sister is your lifelong friend and supporter
Help your neighbors everytime they need help
Money is for saving not spending
Citizenship has responsibilities and rights
I worry a great deal about the pending teenage years. Being so frustrated to shoot the laptop suggests the battle was lost long before. It is really an admission of total defeat. The child is in charge and probably has been for years. I feel this is the problem with modern parenting. The child is elevated to the center of the family and never really learns they are a part of a larger whole. Abused and neglected children have a different and much sadder reality.
The dad might be a jerk, but for a person of your political bent, that was the last thing I would have expected to hear.. He's on his own property, shooting his own property ( I'm only asking because in this case, our opinions seem to be reversed...and I doubt that any laws were broken)
It's not the use of a firearm to destroy personal property that I'm grousing about, it's the PUBLIC (posting a video) part. Until we get a reasonable/limited Government, that kind of behavior is a PR nightmare and plays right into the hands of the Antis as "proof" that gun owners are likely to use a firearm destructively when grumpy.
Also, he's clearly an idiot because he just let the entire world see that he has unsecured firearms mounted on his wall just waiting to be stolen...
Fred: I don't totally disagree, but it still plays a part. Public Perception is everything.
Just look at his (mis)use of terms: ".45 caliber "exploding" hollowpoint ammo", etc. The goob just told the world that as a gun owner he doesn't know his butt from his ammo and is willing to use Hollywood terms to prove it.
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
