The Kings deer. Really?

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Re: The Kings deer. Really?

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765x53 wrote:
marlinman93 wrote:I got one of the King's deer opening morning! Still had a lot of velvet on it.
It was our deer until you took it legally. Then it became your deer. No king had anything to do with it.
The state dictates when and where game animals can be taken, and the state dictates what method and arm game can be taken with, and who can take it. The state dictates who can legally process game and whether or not the yield can be consumed by man or animal.

No king. Right.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...

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FWiedner wrote:The state dictates when and where game animals can be taken, and the state dictates what method and arm game can be taken with, and who can take it. The state dictates who can legally process game and whether or not the yield can be consumed by man or animal.
While what you say is "basically true" there are ALWAYS loopholes :wink:
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FWiedner wrote:
765x53 wrote:
marlinman93 wrote:I got one of the King's deer opening morning! Still had a lot of velvet on it.
It was our deer until you took it legally. Then it became your deer. No king had anything to do with it.
The state dictates when and where game animals can be taken, and the state dictates what method and arm game can be taken with, and who can take it. The state dictates who can legally process game and whether or not the yield can be consumed by man or animal.

No king. Right.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...

:lol:
In Missouri "we the people" fought long and hard for an independent, a-political, scientifically based conservation department. We have campaigned, donated, and voted time and again to fund it and to keep the politicians hands off of it. No king is involved in managing our wildlife.
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Just some opinions from me after scanning through the thread...

1) If you want land, then plan and save and do what you have to do to get some. Don't resent those who have done that already. This is very much like resenting people that are "wealthy" - many of which have sacrificed dearly to get that way. Yes, some inherit the wealth/land but at some point, somebody had to earn it... and their reward was their decendants having the wealth/property. This is also very much like those complaining about the laws of the state where they live but who refuse to move to a better situation... doesn't make sense to me.

2) If you want to hunt but have no hunting land of your own, there are all kinds of public lands available all over this country. I have lived all over this country and I know. Yes, it takes more effort and planning but you can hunt if you really want to! I got my first few whitetails on public land in the Poconos. As a kid, my dad got an inexpensive lease on a fishing lease which allowed us to dove hunt too... If you really want to hunt - find a way, make a way.

3) I totally agree that we are just stewards of our land - we never really own it any more than we own anything. I try and remember that.

4) Do get politically active. That is how our system is set-up to force change and reform. But you have to be active to make it work. If you choose to live in an area and the benefits outweigh the detractions, then work to change things for the better. Community action does work - my wife and I have been a part of these efforts several times with good results.

My wife and I are in the process of selling our house here in Texas so that we can get the equity freed up to apply towards building a home on our "new" property in Mississippi. If anyone has a spare prayer, I would appreciate a quick word up for us - we have a showing again tomorrow :) We've had two contracts for sale but neither buyer(s) could qualify for the loan... these folks are victims of the Bastrop fire and lost their home. They have cash from the insurance settlement though and therefore, a loan is a non-issue. This is the second time to come see the house/property here, so maybe it will happen this time!

In Mississippi, if you own the land, then you do not have to buy a hunting license to hunt there. This makes a lot of sense to me as you are holding wildlife habitat that benefits everyone around you - like the many hunt clubs that exist there.

Just this past weekend, I bush hogged and planted three food plots of about 2 acres total area between the three. This will benefit not only me on my land but also all of those around us. And it is not free to do this, so I do understand the feeling of being taken advantage of with having to buy licenses on top of those costs. And that's where the political activism comes in - if you feel that's wrong, then get your fellow land owners organized and activated to change it.
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Well put........

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Owen, you live in a very beautiful land there. I lived in Eden Prairie (Minneapolis) for almost 7 years and covered Duluth for my sales job. My wife and I also made several trips up to the boundry waters - going through Gran Marias - I made the Tuscarora portage the first time - in June! We never made that mistake again :lol: I'd like to go back and spend a couple of weeks in August and catch some more of that delicious walleye again. Man, that was good eating!

I bet your land is absolutely beautiful.

And the only other thing I would say is that if you've never seen a game warden on your property, perhaps you could find a way to work your kids/grandkids a deer w/o worrying about the government permission slips... ?

I bet you don't take the deer to town to be processed....

But that's just me talking. ;)
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Yes, we do love it. I guess that makes it impossible to part with. Here's the thing, I have three daughters and a son to pass things down to. Then, as of now I have eight grandchildren with more comming for sure. The land, if divided will be ruined. At least while I'm still here, I can keep them all happy. After I'm gone....who knows.

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hightime wrote: At least while I'm still here, I can keep them all happy. After I'm gone....who knows.
Regardless of what happens in your own land situation , I think after you are gone they'll miss you more then any piece of real estate !

After loosing my maternal grandfather and my mother in exactly 11 months time about two years ago . It's quiet easy for me to say I would give up guns , hunting and real estate to have them back again .

Almost everytime I bought a new gun or killed a decent deer I would take it down to my grandfathers for him to see . Well I haven't been able to do that now in well over 3 years . So lets just say my enthusiasm about both has diminished since his passing .
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hightime wrote:Yes, we do love it. I guess that makes it impossible to part with. Here's the thing, I have three daughters and a son to pass things down to. Then, as of now I have eight grandchildren with more comming for sure. The land, if divided will be ruined. At least while I'm still here, I can keep them all happy. After I'm gone....who knows.

Owen
Owen, there is a simple way of "fixing" this. Just have a trust formed and put the land in the trust with direction that it not be subdivided... after you pass on, your children (if that's how you set it up) will all share in the land equally and so on and so forth... of course they'll be able to change things if they want to but you'd think that they would keep your wishes and once there's a bunch of the grandkids involved, well it will seem rather impractical to divide it...

Just a thought.

I am planning on creating a trust for all of my earthly belongings - there are tax and liability benefits for doing so.
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