OT - Suggestions For A New Glock Shooter

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:56 am

My SIL just got on at Dept of Corrections and will be issued a Glock 9 or 40. I have a Glock 36 (single stack .45acp). They all break down the same and the trigger is the same and He'd like me to take him out for practice. Now: I'm sure the Dept. have their own training program and I don't want to show him anything that will have to be unlearned........ So, I'll just let him put some rounds downrange and let his work show him technique......That sound about right? Any suggestions?

nemhed · Post by **nemhed** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:52 am

As a Glock owner and a person with some L.E. training, I'd say your on the right track. No use teaching habits that will need to be unlearned. He'll be better off just getting used to the handling, loading, and field stripping of a Glock.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:58 am

When he gets his issue Glock I would buy the corresponding .22 conversion unit and make every effort to wear it out as fast as possible. Shoot as much as he can afford. It's all a mater of muscle memory.
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Cocked & Locked · Post by **Cocked & Locked** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:58 am

Yep, I agree...just a general plinking session...maybe at cans and such, no paper.

I use any excuse to post a picture

1st generation 17L longslide

2nd generation 17

3rd generation 26

3rd generation 20 OD

lever-4-life · Post by **lever-4-life** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:31 pm

How much handgun experience dose he have? I ask because the .40 glocks can be a bit snappy. Just have him ask what kind of training they will be doing and do your best to replicate it

homefront · Post by **homefront** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:25 pm

I had a Glock 36, and the only thing I had to get used to was the trigger - it seemed to have a longish take-up.

jengel · Post by **jengel** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:53 pm

The key to shooting a Glock effectively is TRIGGER RESET. Keep the trigger pulled after the shot and then only let off until you reset the striker and then pull again. As with any striker fired or any gun with trigger pretravel, if you feel the trigger move all the way back, you're not jerking it.

tman · Post by **tman** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:46 pm

i have the baby glock 27 .40 s&w. always thought the the 1911a1 was the cats' butt, till i got familiar with this one. don't think he can go wrong with a glock. enough variations out there to make anybody happy. not an expert, just a shooter.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:00 pm

lever-4-life wrote:How much handgun experience dose he have? I ask because the .40 glocks can be a bit snappy. Just have him ask what kind of training they will be doing and do your best to replicate it

He has almost zero handgun experience. I've never shot a .40. Are they snappier than my little 36 in 45acp? My guess is no. I'll let him shoot my BFR....After a few 405s at 1500fps, the Glock will seem pretty calm.

crawdaddyjim · Post by **crawdaddyjim** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:20 pm

No handgun experience would dictate you start him out on a smaller caliber. STRESS the 4 rules constantly. Other than that I think you have it covered. Have fun!

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:56 pm

I want to get into shooting auto's sometime. My buddie has a Glock that I would like to shoot. It's a 22 in .40 S&W with an engraving on the side , "MSHP". I was told it meant "Martin Strunberg High Performance" but I don't know.

jeepnik · Post by **jeepnik** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:46 pm

BlaineG wrote:My SIL just got on at Dept of Corrections and will be issued a Glock 9 or 40. I have a Glock 36 (single stack .45acp). They all break down the same and the trigger is the same and He'd like me to take him out for practice. Now: I'm sure the Dept. have their own training program and I don't want to show him anything that will have to be unlearned........ So, I'll just let him put some rounds downrange and let his work show him technique......That sound about right? Any suggestions?

I'm telling the others you own a Glock.

Shh!, I gotta a 30.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:50 pm

jeepnik wrote:
BlaineG wrote:My SIL just got on at Dept of Corrections and will be issued a Glock 9 or 40. I have a Glock 36 (single stack .45acp). They all break down the same and the trigger is the same and He'd like me to take him out for practice. Now: I'm sure the Dept. have their own training program and I don't want to show him anything that will have to be unlearned........ So, I'll just let him put some rounds downrange and let his work show him technique......That sound about right? Any suggestions?
I'm telling the others you own a Glock.
Shh!, I gotta a 30.

It's a very good tool, but it has no soul.

jeepnik · Post by **jeepnik** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:02 pm

BlaineG wrote:
jeepnik wrote:
BlaineG wrote:My SIL just got on at Dept of Corrections and will be issued a Glock 9 or 40. I have a Glock 36 (single stack .45acp). They all break down the same and the trigger is the same and He'd like me to take him out for practice. Now: I'm sure the Dept. have their own training program and I don't want to show him anything that will have to be unlearned........ So, I'll just let him put some rounds downrange and let his work show him technique......That sound about right? Any suggestions?
I'm telling the others you own a Glock.
Shh!, I gotta a 30.
It's a very good tool, but it has no soul.

Sorta like plastic holsters.

lever-4-life · Post by **lever-4-life** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:24 pm

I shoot a glock 23 .40, I feel that the .40s kick more than .45s but it is more of a snap rather than a push. It is alot like shooting a .357 in a similar size gun. Im a wheel gun fan by and large but I have faith in any glock model.

ohwin94_61 · Post by **ohwin94_61** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:31 pm

Get a walther P99

or sw 99

AndyM · Post by **AndyM** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:13 pm

Shhh.. don't tell anyone but I have a Glock too - a model 23. It is a wonderful tool, but that is how I consider it, a tool only. I wanted a full out, knock down, work all-the-time auto, and went with this. I do like the 1911A1 platform, but I owned a Colt 1991A1 officers size once, that just did not suit me - I should have started with the full size 1911 and to tell the truth I would love to have a current kimber 1911 - but when I have extra money, I usually shy away from handguns.

The 40 S&W recoil is snappy - more than the 9mm and the 45 is more of a push than snap.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:28 pm

BlaineG wrote:
lever-4-life wrote:How much handgun experience dose he have? I ask because the .40 glocks can be a bit snappy. Just have him ask what kind of training they will be doing and do your best to replicate it
He has almost zero handgun experience. I've never shot a .40. Are they snappier than my little 36 in 45acp? My guess is no. I'll let him shoot my BFR....After a few 405s at 1500fps, the Glock will seem pretty calm.

I say "Yes" the 40 cal, when using factory stuff, has a sharper bite than the 45 or 9.

Buffboy · Post by **Buffboy** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:27 pm

jengel wrote:The key to shooting a Glock effectively is TRIGGER RESET. Keep the trigger pulled after the shot and then only let off until you reset the striker and then pull again. As with any striker fired or any gun with trigger pretravel, if you feel the trigger move all the way back, you're not jerking it.

At my Academy that's the way they taught me with my 1911 too. The TRIGGER RESET method actually works quite well with the 1911 too.

A little trigger time won't hurt him, some slow fire practice with a lot of emphasis on sight alignment, and focusing on the front sight will help out with his learning. Just leave the "drills" out. They will insist it's done "their way", from grip, to point, to sight acquisition, to fire, to scan, to holster. The methods I learned were well thought out and worked very very well. If it is anything like my training he will burn lots of ammo(mine was over a 1k rounds of handgun, +100 shotgun). I considered myself a very good shot going in and I saw a noticeable improvement in my shooting by the end. I had very good training IMHO.

Rexster · Post by **Rexster** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:42 pm

I agree on learning to use the short reset, and on trying a .22 conversion unit. I used a G22 as a duty pistol for about 2.5 years, but switched to a SIG P229 as soon as the DAK trigger option became available locally. (I have to provide my own duty pistol, with four DA .40 autos being on the approved list at that time.) One HUGELY important thing with the normal factory Glock trigger is to keep the finger OFF the trigger until the discharge of the weapon is desired; so many officers in my agency AD'ed and ND'ed their Glocks than it nearly became the first weapon that my agency banned. IMHO, a Glock is much like carrying a 1911, with the same trigger pull weight, in Condition Zero, that is, cocked and "unlocked." The Glock may have a longer trigger travel, but it is very, very light.

jeepnik · Post by **jeepnik** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:45 pm

Looks like a lot of closet glockers around here. Interesting that we all seem to feel they're a good tool, but not much in the soul department.

Gryphon Black · Post by **Gryphon Black** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:06 am

My defense pistols are big and little brothers, a 27 stubby and a 35 longnose.
I rechambered them for 357sig, Though they started life as .40smiths.
Yes, it's snappy, no you shouln't try to teach him to shoot for real until AFTER they have taught him, and I agree that a backyard session with pop bottles would help to familiarize. Give him a day, and have him back after they're done with him to further his training.
I'd start him on a 9mm if you can get one, and I too start with dry firing on snap caps to learn the trigger travel, then just plink for about one box worth.
If I didn't trust a Glock with my life, I wouldn't carry them.
And no, they don't have any soul.
Someday my 1911 will arrive from my gun sugar daddy, and that WILL be a fun day at the range!

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