Win 94 WinTuff

Antietamgw · Post by **Antietamgw** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:25 am

I don't see many of these around. I like walnut but the the WinTuff is one of the more appealing laminated patterns IMHO. Do these bring a premium price? What should a pristine AE without the crossbolt be worth? Thanks folks.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:04 pm

I don't mean this negatively, but... I would begin to vocalize a value, as you couldn't give one to me. However, I don't think they bring a premium at all to be honest. They didn't seem to hit it off very well with the market, as they weren't offered for that many years. And, although rather scarce, that hasn't done anything for their resale. At least not the VERY few I've seen @ gunshows or auctions.

jbm1968 · Post by **jbm1968** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:29 pm

I think they are the best looking of the laminated stocks, you can find them on gunbroker. com but they tend to bring a premium. If you want one go for it! Griff, if someone wants to give one to you, send them my way

No disrespect intended Griff, you are one of the most knowledgeable and interesting members here! I agree that they don't bring a premium.

jbm1968 · Post by **jbm1968** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:30 pm

Sorry, I should have added that I think that the market doesn't give them a premium because us levergunners are mostly interested in traditional skill rather than marketing!

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:09 pm

jbm1968 wrote:...Griff, if someone wants to give one to you, send them my way

Deal.

No disrespect intended Griff, you are one of the most knowledgeable and interesting members here! I agree that they don't bring a premium.

None taken. My opinions are about like everyone else's... Worth about what you pay, only sometimes, they're uniquely mine!

Antietamgw · Post by **Antietamgw** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:42 pm

Well that's the kind of input I was looking for. It belonged to a close friend who recently passed away. I've been asked to take care of disposing of his firearms and was kind of stumped on this one. The income will be important to his widow and it's my duty to find the right price rather than guess. I've not found any with the Wintuff wood (other than the 9422's) on auction sites and I don't recall seeing any at shows. Though it might not be my choice, or alot of folks since they are scarce, I felt this may affect the value to those that might collect these later 94's. I like walnut myself and that's how I like my firearms stocked. I do think the reddish Wintuff is the best looking of the laminates though. I have a "Rosewood" laminated blank ordered for a bolt gun for my son and this looks pretty similar, not too gaudy or obnoxious like some of the laminates.

There will likely be some rifles that I will list here FS after a bit. Friends of family will get first chance. Mine is kind of a tough position. Some family feels that everything was a rare, high dollar collectable. It ain't. Some friends? want their choice for half it's value. Nope. Some of each are bent since Dan left me a 336 in .35 that I'd worked up some reduced cast loads for. That and a .22 are about all he shot the last 6 months. I think I'll just sell my 336 in .35, keep his and put the cash in with the funds from the sale of the rest of his collection. Makes me think that when my time comes (if I have any notice!) that I'll just sell what won't be passed down or given to close friends. Cash is easy to put a value on and hard to get attached to.

jbm1968 · Post by **jbm1968** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:11 pm

I do not envy the position you are in. good luck and I think you are doing the right thing to look out for the family in this case. True Colors are often shown when a great person passes on, it is good you are there to take care of this, it is a GREAT service you are rendering.

Post by **Old Savage** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:29 am

Well now if anyone is giving one away - here I am.

Post by **Hobie** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:11 am

It seems that if there is more than one heir there will be problems. I don't envy you your task.

The Wintuff gets no premium in this area. In fact, only the closing of the Winchester plant brought the prices of those on par with more traditional guns. The minute the new M94s are back on the market prices will drop a bit. I would say about $400 or so in NRA excellent to fine condition.

Antietamgw · Post by **Antietamgw** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:04 am

Thanks for the responses folks. I'm not that far north of you Hobie, just over the MD line on I-81. I've been seeing 94's for about $400 up here and in Baltimore. What surprises me is that they seem to want about the same money for the Rangers with the cheaper wood. I suspect you are right about prices dropping if new production becomes available. I'll have to get this one sold before that happens.

wm · Post by wm » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:18 pm

A little off topic from what you asked but I recall reading a interesting article years ago that mentioned how much stronger and more weather resistant the laminate stocks were. I distinctly recall the comaprison to wood airplane propellors and canoe paddles which are both traditionally made out of laminates because they were superior in strength and durability to 'regular' wood.

I know from working at a marina years ago that marine plywood would survive long after other treated woods disolve into pulp.

Wm

jbm1968 · Post by **jbm1968** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:38 pm

Wm,

There is absolutely no doubt that Laminated Stocks are stronger and more durable than standard walnut stocks, "better" in all measurable aspects except they weigh slightly more. I think they are a great solution for someone who wants a wood "look" with synthetic durability. The Wintuff Winchesters along with the Remington Mountain Rifles are the best looking of the ones I have seen. I think a great option would have been for Winchester to come out with a Stainless/Wintuff M94 (along the lines of the Remington stainless/laminated mountain rifle) if there is a market for a more "durable" M94. Something like that would sure make a GREAT camp/boat gun in a humid environment. The more options the better in my mind!

wm · Post by wm » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:10 pm

Hmmm a stainless steel 1886 light wieight carbine with a laminate stock in 45/70........sounds like an Alaskan guides dream gun.

Wm