bought a 30 WCf
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- ollogger
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bought a 30 WCf
but only after i siffted thourgh a dozen of the worst rusted guns ive ever seen not to mention the beating they took befor the rust started
a 97 win that wouldnt pump, S&W pistols that wouldnt revolve, a cute
FN 25 that was junk, some i didnt reconize, it was sad
a gun in a scabbard caught my eye & i pulled it out, that one was a
surprize, at least i could tell it was a 94 & is in good shape,scabbard
bluing ware, beaver marks on the stock, minor rust,witch cleaned up
& the bore turned up a # 9. other than some abuse its not seen any use the rest is like new, ok i paid 200.00 for it im happy i could
rescue the poor thing.
later on the pix ollogger
a 97 win that wouldnt pump, S&W pistols that wouldnt revolve, a cute
FN 25 that was junk, some i didnt reconize, it was sad
a gun in a scabbard caught my eye & i pulled it out, that one was a
surprize, at least i could tell it was a 94 & is in good shape,scabbard
bluing ware, beaver marks on the stock, minor rust,witch cleaned up
& the bore turned up a # 9. other than some abuse its not seen any use the rest is like new, ok i paid 200.00 for it im happy i could
rescue the poor thing.
later on the pix ollogger
Re: bought a 30 WCf
Nice.
I love it when people use the 'WCF' designation.
I love it when people use the 'WCF' designation.
Re: bought a 30 WCf
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Re: bought a 30 WCf
Sifted through, as in an auction?? just curious... Les
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Re: bought a 30 WCf
Les Staley wrote:Sifted through, as in an auction?? just curious... Les
Salvaged from a fire? Why were they so rusty?
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Re: bought a 30 WCf
no auction & no fire
just neglect over 50 years
30 WCF was made in 1950
just neglect over 50 years
30 WCF was made in 1950
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Re: bought a 30 WCf
ollogger,ollogger wrote:no auction & no fire
just neglect over 50 years
30 WCF was made in 1950
Just curious, are you sure it's a 1950? My confirmed 1950's barrel is marked 30-30 Winchester on the top, but 30WCF on the underside.
I'll bet yours is late 49 or so.
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Re: bought a 30 WCf
joe thats what i came up with heres the sn 1648828 can you check it ?
thanks
thanks
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ollogger,ollogger wrote:joe thats what i came up with heres the sn 1648828 can you check it ?
thanks
Well, the data base on our home page agrees at 1950. However I've been told it has errors in it so I won't guarantee it.
Your gun was made 74,931 units before mine, so it could still be a 1950 vintage and be marked 30 WCF. I do not know when they changed the stamping.
When you get a chance to take it apart, look on the bottom of the barrel.
There will be a date stamped there. That's the barrel date.
On my 94 the serial number and barrel date agree.
There is another chart I thought I had, that's the polishing room chart. But I can't find it. I think forum member jbledso is the one who put it together. It might be a better source of data for your rifle.
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thanks joe, I was suprized for that date to show up i was thinking war years for 30WCF
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Re: bought a 30 WCf
rich,richerich wrote:Interesting, do all 94's have that date stamped into them?
They do up till 63. After 64 they dropped the date stamp.
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Re: bought a 30 WCf
http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2 ... s-and.htmlJ Miller wrote:ollogger,ollogger wrote:joe thats what i came up with heres the sn 1648828 can you check it ?
thanks
Well, the data base on our home page agrees at 1950. However I've been told it has errors in it so I won't guarantee it.
Your gun was made 74,931 units before mine, so it could still be a 1950 vintage and be marked 30 WCF. I do not know when they changed the stamping.
When you get a chance to take it apart, look on the bottom of the barrel.
There will be a date stamped there. That's the barrel date.
On my 94 the serial number and barrel date agree.
There is another chart I thought I had, that's the polishing room chart. But I can't find it. I think forum member jbledso is the one who put it together. It might be a better source of data for your rifle.
Joe
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Re: bought a 30 WCf
ollogger,
Nice find! Congratulations!
Regarding the 30 W.C.F. barrel marking.....according to the book "WINCHESTER 94 The First 100 years" by Robert Renneberg, the change in the barrel marking from .30 W.C.F. to .30-30 came at around serial number 1,550,000.
If that is correct, then your barrel was produced in 1949 but was not assembled to the receiver until 1950.
I do know that the ammunition headstamp on WINCHESTER cartridges was changed from .30 W.C.F. to .30-30 in 1946.
Enjoy your new rifle!
w30wcf
Nice find! Congratulations!
Regarding the 30 W.C.F. barrel marking.....according to the book "WINCHESTER 94 The First 100 years" by Robert Renneberg, the change in the barrel marking from .30 W.C.F. to .30-30 came at around serial number 1,550,000.
If that is correct, then your barrel was produced in 1949 but was not assembled to the receiver until 1950.
I do know that the ammunition headstamp on WINCHESTER cartridges was changed from .30 W.C.F. to .30-30 in 1946.
Enjoy your new rifle!
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Re: bought a 30 WCf
thanks guys! always learn some thing here
Re: bought a 30 WCf
I too have a Model 94 marked 30 WCF with serial number 1,658,xxx. 10,000 later.


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Re: bought a 30 WCf
I think we're getting the 30WCF bracketed: dad's old "thutty" he bought in 1950, serial # 1,709,xxx is marked 30-30 WIN.
Has a fair amount of rust itself. Needs somebody to rescue it.
Has a fair amount of rust itself. Needs somebody to rescue it.
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circa 1950 Winchester cartridges
For those of us that like to have a box of cartridges that were manufactured the year our rifle(s) was/ were made......here's the one for 1950 (1946 - 1958)

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Re: bought a 30 WCf
To narrow it further, ser. # 1,703,xxx has a barrel that reads ".30-30".
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Re: circa 1950 Winchester cartridges
Thanks for the neat pic, John. Brings back memories. Dad had a box of those for several years 'til I came along and shot them all up in one year trying (unsuccessfully) to get my first deer.w30wcf wrote:For those of us that like to have a box of cartridges that were manufactured the year our rifle(s) was/ were made......here's the one for 1950 (1946 - 1958)
w30wcf
And the $3.40? Pretty substantial price: I remember being impressed about 1952 that the foreman on the ranch fence-building crew got $10 per day. I don't know what the grunts were getting paid.
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Re: bought a 30 WCf
Joe,
Me too!
I was going to remove the price but decided to leave it on the box for nostalgia.
earlmck,
You are most welcome. It did fo me as well. When I was 12 years old (1955) my dad let me shoot his '94 30 W.C.F. and, as I recall, that was the type of box of cartridges he had at the time.
w30wcf
Me too!

earlmck,
You are most welcome. It did fo me as well. When I was 12 years old (1955) my dad let me shoot his '94 30 W.C.F. and, as I recall, that was the type of box of cartridges he had at the time.

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Re: bought a 30 WCf
As an additional note:
Winchester .30-30 ammunition available in 1950 also included a Hollow Point (box below), soft point and full patch.

w30wcf
Winchester .30-30 ammunition available in 1950 also included a Hollow Point (box below), soft point and full patch.

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Re: bought a 30 WCf
ollogger,
If you wanted some ammunition with the .30 W.C.F. headstamp to match your barrel, this was the last box style that contained that cartridge.

w30wcf ,
If you wanted some ammunition with the .30 W.C.F. headstamp to match your barrel, this was the last box style that contained that cartridge.

w30wcf ,
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Re: bought a 30 WCf
W 30 WCF
have a box like that im a bonified scrounger.
but i wasnt sure of the years made thanks alot.
oh it shoots great.
ollogger
have a box like that im a bonified scrounger.
but i wasnt sure of the years made thanks alot.
oh it shoots great.
ollogger
Re: bought a 30 WCf
ollogger,
Glad to hear that you have a vintage cartridge box to go with your vintage rifle that shoots great!
Neat!
w30wcf
Glad to hear that you have a vintage cartridge box to go with your vintage rifle that shoots great!
Neat!

w30wcf
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aka Jack Christian SASS 11993 "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." Philippians 4:13
aka w44wcf (black powder)
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aka Jack Christian SASS 11993 "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." Philippians 4:13
aka w44wcf (black powder)
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.22 WCF, .30 WCF, .44 WCF Cartridge Historian