
Who has ALL they NEED? NOT want, NEED?
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- Levergunner 2.0
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Re: Who has ALL they NEED? NOT want, NEED?
I'm there, although I DID buy a second 30-30 on Thursday!cubrock wrote:
Sometimes I ponder whether I should buy anything more or even thin down to what I will actually regularly use and get really good with those few guns. Seriously.
It is the same gun as my other, post 64 pre safety (A new collectible category, right?! ) so parts can interchange, same caliber, same operation. I intend to buy a few more as i am able. i do have wife and 5 kids! For my purposes, hunting/battle rifle is covered right there.
#1 in 45-70, 20 gauge bolt action shotgun, a few 22s, plus my 357 blackhawk makes me one who has the needs covered. Wants? Upgrade where possible, ie better 20 ga shotgun, add similar compatible funs that agree with the ones I already have, same mechanism, same caliber.
I have a USFA 38 revolver in the works, for example.
Just sold two semi auto handguns, that allowed the 30-30 purchase. benefit? Narrow the handgun focus, eliminate two calibers of ammo to stock, get a duplicate gun in the 30-30. It's all good!
Tom
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Another take on the all you need thread:
First, I have already answered the question with a simple: I have all I need.
Actually, I have far, far more and am planning a Large sell off in '09, putting alot of thought into it and keeping much more than I really need but really cutting back.
Now to my point, another post on Jeff Quinn got me back to the Gunblast.com site again (simply the best gun review site there is). I just read the article and found the answer to the "need" question:
http://www.gunblast.com/Rossi-Trifecta.htm
First, I have already answered the question with a simple: I have all I need.
Actually, I have far, far more and am planning a Large sell off in '09, putting alot of thought into it and keeping much more than I really need but really cutting back.
Now to my point, another post on Jeff Quinn got me back to the Gunblast.com site again (simply the best gun review site there is). I just read the article and found the answer to the "need" question:
http://www.gunblast.com/Rossi-Trifecta.htm
Jonathan
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After carefull reconsideration1894 wrote:For now, all I "need" is a Marlin 39 (A) just a presaftey and a shooter , to come along when the $$$ coinside

I recalled reading here that everyone should own at least one 30-30. Since I've never owned one , or even fired one , but have the loading dies for one, I guess that is on my need list as well.
Phil
I guess you have to define "Need". I would hate to go without a good .22 rifle and I have that covered well. A good shotgun is a need for me, my 870 I bought 35+ years ago or Dads old 11-48 Remington I inherited will do. With those I guess I could feed cloth and defend myself so I guess I don't really need the .22 handguns, the .357s and .44mags both rifle and handgun, the 30-30, the .303 and .308 Enfields, the .45autos......but I don't think I'll have a big selloff either. 

You could think of it 'from scratch':
Rimfire - (quiet, and cheapest to shoot long term and ammo compact and lightweight) get a handgun and a long gun - i.e. 10/22 and Mark II or 39a and Single Six
Shotgun - one should cover the basics - Pump 12ga, perhaps with a 20"rifled slug barrel and a longer shot barrel. Or just a 'house' barrel.
Centerfire - you could cover most needs with a DA revolver and a levergun, say in .357 or .44.
If you like to hunt bigger game, add a .45-70 or a 7mm Mag (or both!) depending on the range you hunt.
If you like to punch paper or varmints, a .223 bolt gun if you are a traditionalist, or just get a 'varmint' upper for an AR-15 or rebarrel/gas port a Mini-14 if you want something more like a M1-A.
If you want a bad times gun, or just like firepower, a 1911 handgun, and a .308 or .223 (see above) semiauto.
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That's 2 rimfires, a shotgun, and two centerfires for your 'core' guns.
Add a 'big' gun, a semiauto, and maybe a second centerfire pistol, and you've totaled only 8 guns, which if selected carefully, could make you feel like you have a very adequate battery/collection!
I don't have all these, but as a mental exercise, consider:
Ruger 10/22, Ruger Mark-II (why not semiautos since you don't save rimfire brass?)
Mossberg 500 with short cylinder choke barrel, rifled slug barrel, and shot barrel.
Ruger Redhawk 44 mag and Marlin 1894 44 Mag
Bushmaster 'Varmint' AR in 223, with extra 'shorty' upper
Colt or Para 1911 45 ACP
--- so far seven guns costing maybe $3,500 , and you're only reloading three cartridges, plus perhaps shotshells ---
EITHER a .45-70 Guide Gun, an M1-A, or an Encore with multiple barrels.
Rimfire - (quiet, and cheapest to shoot long term and ammo compact and lightweight) get a handgun and a long gun - i.e. 10/22 and Mark II or 39a and Single Six
Shotgun - one should cover the basics - Pump 12ga, perhaps with a 20"rifled slug barrel and a longer shot barrel. Or just a 'house' barrel.
Centerfire - you could cover most needs with a DA revolver and a levergun, say in .357 or .44.
If you like to hunt bigger game, add a .45-70 or a 7mm Mag (or both!) depending on the range you hunt.
If you like to punch paper or varmints, a .223 bolt gun if you are a traditionalist, or just get a 'varmint' upper for an AR-15 or rebarrel/gas port a Mini-14 if you want something more like a M1-A.
If you want a bad times gun, or just like firepower, a 1911 handgun, and a .308 or .223 (see above) semiauto.
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That's 2 rimfires, a shotgun, and two centerfires for your 'core' guns.
Add a 'big' gun, a semiauto, and maybe a second centerfire pistol, and you've totaled only 8 guns, which if selected carefully, could make you feel like you have a very adequate battery/collection!
I don't have all these, but as a mental exercise, consider:
Ruger 10/22, Ruger Mark-II (why not semiautos since you don't save rimfire brass?)
Mossberg 500 with short cylinder choke barrel, rifled slug barrel, and shot barrel.
Ruger Redhawk 44 mag and Marlin 1894 44 Mag
Bushmaster 'Varmint' AR in 223, with extra 'shorty' upper
Colt or Para 1911 45 ACP
--- so far seven guns costing maybe $3,500 , and you're only reloading three cartridges, plus perhaps shotshells ---
EITHER a .45-70 Guide Gun, an M1-A, or an Encore with multiple barrels.
Last edited by AJMD429 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
It's 2025 - "Cutesy Time is OVER....!" [Dan Bongino]
AJMD429: In Pa, we have a flintlock only season for deer. So here, I had to add that in my need catagory. Looking at your list, I have it covered almost exactly. I .22 covered in pistol and rifle, Centerfire pistol in .45 (instead of .44) , A 45-70, a 12 ga, and .308 and .45acp, I have a .44 lever gun but since I got rid of the .44 pistols, I am ditching it. I added a ccw .38 and an extra .22 but I have to agree with your choices.
Mike Johnson,
"Only those who will risk going too far, can possibly find out how far one can go." T.S. Eliot
"Only those who will risk going too far, can possibly find out how far one can go." T.S. Eliot
Used to be a book by Mel Tappan (Tappin?) called "Survival Guns" and we practically sudied it in high school. The author even queried the 'gunnies' of the time like Jeff Cooper, and listed their thoughts on the ideal 'battery' of 6 to 12 guns, or a 'core' battery for a family, plus ones for each individual.
Something to think about gradually helping your kids to accumulate - some of the stuff they may be able to legally OWN, but not BUY.
Note you can just get a stripped AR receiver now, fairly cheap, and even if you don't flesh it out for years, at least you have it grandfathered in.
Something to think about gradually helping your kids to accumulate - some of the stuff they may be able to legally OWN, but not BUY.
Note you can just get a stripped AR receiver now, fairly cheap, and even if you don't flesh it out for years, at least you have it grandfathered in.
It's 2025 - "Cutesy Time is OVER....!" [Dan Bongino]
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For .22; A standard auto, single six and a 10/22.
For centerfire handguns; a .44 Super Blackhawk and a 1911.
For long guns; a .44 lever and an FR-8 .308.
A SXS .20 ga. for my wife and one for me.
Grace and Peace.
For centerfire handguns; a .44 Super Blackhawk and a 1911.
For long guns; a .44 lever and an FR-8 .308.
A SXS .20 ga. for my wife and one for me.
Grace and Peace.
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I was thinking about this post as I drove to a small show in Toledo yesterday. I think I have everything i need w/ the exception of a flintlock for PA muzz. season.
Need-( to me)
I have two excellent 22 pistols, S&W 17 & Colt Match Target.
.22 rifles, 10/22 & Martini .
1911 & Blackhawk 45acp/45Colt.
Shotguns, Model 12, 20 gage and M 97 Riot.
Centerfire bolts, 222 Rem Sako, Custom Sprinfield lightweight sporter, 30-06.
Levers, 1895 marlin 45-70, Marlin 1894S 45 Colt.
EBRs Colt Lightweight and Springfield SOCOM16.
Have ( Too many
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Then when I got to the show I found that I needed the neat little H&R 12 Ga. w/ the 18 1/2" barrel lying on a table for $100!
On And on it goes

Need-( to me)
I have two excellent 22 pistols, S&W 17 & Colt Match Target.
.22 rifles, 10/22 & Martini .
1911 & Blackhawk 45acp/45Colt.
Shotguns, Model 12, 20 gage and M 97 Riot.
Centerfire bolts, 222 Rem Sako, Custom Sprinfield lightweight sporter, 30-06.
Levers, 1895 marlin 45-70, Marlin 1894S 45 Colt.
EBRs Colt Lightweight and Springfield SOCOM16.
Have ( Too many

Then when I got to the show I found that I needed the neat little H&R 12 Ga. w/ the 18 1/2" barrel lying on a table for $100!
On And on it goes


jasonB " Another Dirty Yankee"
" Tomorrow the sun will rise. Who knows what the tide could bring?"
" Tomorrow the sun will rise. Who knows what the tide could bring?"
Need? Not a thing.
Like to have? Several.
Fact is, about 2 years ago I decided on a Quality vs Quantity policy regarding my collection and shooting interests. For example: I was really into Mosin Nagants and in 2006 has like 24 of them. Now I'm down to eight or nine, and all but two are Finnish variants.
I'm still slimming down the collection to what I need, (or think I need, heh-heh) plus a couple "nice to haves." I'm actually more satisfied with what's left.
Noah
Like to have? Several.
Fact is, about 2 years ago I decided on a Quality vs Quantity policy regarding my collection and shooting interests. For example: I was really into Mosin Nagants and in 2006 has like 24 of them. Now I'm down to eight or nine, and all but two are Finnish variants.
I'm still slimming down the collection to what I need, (or think I need, heh-heh) plus a couple "nice to haves." I'm actually more satisfied with what's left.
Noah
Might as well face it, you're addicted to guns . . .
My gun buddy of 20 years and I have it down to a script for enabling each other's firearm purchases.
#1: "Should I buy this ________?"
#2: "Yes."
Sometimes, it goes a little longer...
#1: "But, I'm not sure if I need it.
#2: "Do you already have any like it?"
#1: (Yes or No reply)
#2: (answer to 'No') "Well then, Yes, you need it."
or
#2: (answer to 'Yes') "When then, Yes, you need it because those could break. Always have a backup."
#1: "Should I buy this ________?"
#2: "Yes."
Sometimes, it goes a little longer...
#1: "But, I'm not sure if I need it.
#2: "Do you already have any like it?"
#1: (Yes or No reply)
#2: (answer to 'No') "Well then, Yes, you need it."
or
#2: (answer to 'Yes') "When then, Yes, you need it because those could break. Always have a backup."
Texican
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Gentlemanly Rogue, Projectilist of Distinction, and Son of Old Republic

I have most of what I need, 444 Marlin for near to middle. 35 Whelen for middle to far. .22 for little and the other two for big. 12 gauge for birds and rabbits if I want them.
But I need a turkey gun and I just think It needs to be a Savage 24 o/u with .223/20 gauge in 24in barrels. That gun haunts me and I haven't found the right one yet.
But I need a turkey gun and I just think It needs to be a Savage 24 o/u with .223/20 gauge in 24in barrels. That gun haunts me and I haven't found the right one yet.
JP_TX
444 Marlin
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