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Two pairs of b.d.u., 3 t-shirts, four changes of socks and underpants. Will ad the stocking hat and gloves a.s.a.p.
, and have another couple 'gallons' of room for a sleeping bag or whatever, plus some side pouches. You can keep little separate packs with things you need to rotate like food or batteries (keep them OUT of the devices in case they corrode), and you may want some expensive things or things you also use for other times, like radios, binoculars, or guns, separately. 
and maybe a deck of cards.
A friend who practices medicine in Canada (he's an M.D. but officially works at a factory job and practices on the side) says lots of his patients do that for antibiotics. They get their blood pressure meds and such over the internet. He sees patients who don't want to put up with the socialized BS they call health care there.Rusty wrote:With regards to medicine has anyone here thought of the possibilities of using meds from the vet supply house on you and your family?
You need to cut a lot of red tape to get the stuff for yourself, but you can buy it mail order for your horse.
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Most antibiotics come out with shelf lives similar to dry cell batteries. Don't trust tetracycline/doxycycline unless it has an expiration date on it. Samples given out usually expire sooner. It should be printed right on the sample container, and if it a Rx you get filled, it will have usually a one-year 'expiration' date that is NOT the chemical expiration, but rather a can't-refill-after date; just ask the pharmacist for the 'real' date and write it on the container. Of course the disclaimer they will give you is that 'it depends on how it is stored.'jbm1968 wrote:AJMD, if that stands for a real MD you hit the nail on the head with the antibiotic! do you know the shelf life of amoxicillian?
I'm not the survivalist type, but I am a father and do think of these things. If there was a nuclear terrorist act or series of acts, or nuclear meltdown in say for example the North East. And they stopped bringing those little boxes of food, formula and medicine in trucks for a very extended period of time(think about KatrinaX10). You're not going to want to be competing with these folks for what little there is to keep your family alive. You could hold out against the bands of thugs that will form, if the local law enforcment doesn't come by to disarm you, for perhaps a week at most? OK so Hobie could hold out maybe a year but ya get my point. The masses of folks today are not early 20th century Americans like our Grandparents who grew up with adversity, who would share with you their last dime and the shirt off their back(yes, still many amazing folks like that but were talking the masses who live in urban areas). People are different, in my view, and your not going to want to be in the middle of it if at all possible with your family it tow. Take the back roads as quick as you can, if you've got backroads that is! Those are my thoughts, but I truly hope I have it all wrong.bj94 wrote:Seriously, what is the B.O.B. for? What are the circumstances when you would use it? I thought the idea was that something happens, you don't have time to get organized and pack, so you grab your bag and run out the door.
But I live in the city, and I could grab a bag and take off, but under normal circumstances it would take me 30 minutes to get out of town. If something happened to make me want to leave, everybody else would be trying to leave also and it would take me hours and hours to leave.
Now when I get out of town where am I going to go? Do I stop in a farmers field and set up camp, and start hunting squirrels? Need to add shelter to the BOB. If I'm going to stay there very long then maybe I need water and additional food too.
Back to the beginning, WHY would I need to bug out? Was there some kind of natural disaster? Why wouldn't I just stay home? A hurricane would surely be an excuse, but there is plenty of warning for that. Maybe an earthquake? Most of us could just stay where we were. Even if your dwelling was damaged somewhat, wouldn't you be better off staying there and making do rather than trying to drive out of town? Maybe it depends on what kind of dwelling we have, highrise apartment building vs. single family wood house.
It seems to me that any planning for emergencies would be better spent planning for other types of emergencies-
1. Prolonged utility outages- electricity, heat, water.
2. Breakdown in retail channels- food and gasoline.
3. Civil unrest- riots, etc.
In my mind most of these scenarios don't involve quickly abandoning your residence, but instead staying there and trying to survive.
Recognizing that things happen when we are away from home, additional preparedness should be done to cover scenarios when you might be at work, or travelling in your car. Each one needs different preparation.
I agree,C. Cash wrote:I'm not the survivalist type, but I am a father and do think of these things. If there was a nuclear terrorist act or series of acts, or nuclear meltdown in say for example the North East. And they stopped bringing those little boxes of food, formula and medicine in trucks for a very extended period of time(think about KatrinaX10). You're not going to want to be competing with these folks for what little there is to keep your family alive. You could hold out against the bands of thugs that will form, if the local law enforcment doesn't come by to disarm you, for perhaps a week at most? OK so Hobie could hold out maybe a year but ya get my point. The masses of folks today are not early 20th century Americans like our Grandparents who grew up with adversity, who would share with you their last dime and the shirt off their back(yes, still many amazing folks like that but were talking the masses who live in urban areas). People are different, in my view, and your not going to want to be in the middle of it if at all possible with your family it tow. Take the back roads as quick as you can, if you've got backroads that is! Those are my thoughts, but I truly hope I have it all wrong.bj94 wrote:Seriously, what is the B.O.B. for? What are the circumstances when you would use it? I thought the idea was that something happens, you don't have time to get organized and pack, so you grab your bag and run out the door.
But I live in the city, and I could grab a bag and take off, but under normal circumstances it would take me 30 minutes to get out of town. If something happened to make me want to leave, everybody else would be trying to leave also and it would take me hours and hours to leave.
Now when I get out of town where am I going to go? Do I stop in a farmers field and set up camp, and start hunting squirrels? Need to add shelter to the BOB. If I'm going to stay there very long then maybe I need water and additional food too.
Back to the beginning, WHY would I need to bug out? Was there some kind of natural disaster? Why wouldn't I just stay home? A hurricane would surely be an excuse, but there is plenty of warning for that. Maybe an earthquake? Most of us could just stay where we were. Even if your dwelling was damaged somewhat, wouldn't you be better off staying there and making do rather than trying to drive out of town? Maybe it depends on what kind of dwelling we have, highrise apartment building vs. single family wood house.
It seems to me that any planning for emergencies would be better spent planning for other types of emergencies-
1. Prolonged utility outages- electricity, heat, water.
2. Breakdown in retail channels- food and gasoline.
3. Civil unrest- riots, etc.
In my mind most of these scenarios don't involve quickly abandoning your residence, but instead staying there and trying to survive.
Recognizing that things happen when we are away from home, additional preparedness should be done to cover scenarios when you might be at work, or travelling in your car. Each one needs different preparation.
)I wouldn't leave without at least one decent piece of ordnance.
Yep,ornery wrote:I live in the 'bugout' spot and I agree with Hobie....if you ain't local you probably ain't welcome. Depending on the severity of the situation, even the "vacation home folks" might have a hard time.
I noticed a lot of you guys have semi-auto pistols and small rifles, such as a .22. Personally, if I had to bugout from here, (Lord help me
