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My First Post...a rant about the USPS

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Hi. I'm new to this forum and I've been enjoying reading and absorbing the various opinions and insights available here. But I'm a bit grumpy now because I just got off the phone with the local US Postal Service delivery supervisor here in my town in Florida. I shipped a nearly new Ruger 10/22 to Ruger over a week ago that needed a small repair under warranty. My local gunsmith said that Ruger would fix it for free and the best way to ship it was through the post office. The local UPS and FedEx satellite offices would not accept a firearm for shipping...I would have to go to their main offices in Tampa, a 20 mile drive. So I shipped it from my local post office. Now they can't find it. :evil:
Folks have warned me that firearms 'disappear' when shipped, and the best thing to do is disguise the shipping address...Don't put "Sturm, Ruger and Co." on the label, just "S.R. & Co." I didn't do that. Have any of you had firearm shipping difficulties?
And yes, I did insure the rifle. But I need to wait 30 days before I can file a claim. :cry:
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RichBMW,

Welcome to the forum.

I've never lost a firearm through the USPS or any other shipper. I hope I never do. My only comment is after you give the USPS a reasonable amount of time to "find" your rifle, don't forget to call Ruger too. Then after that call the local police and the ATF and report it stolen. Then advise the USPS of this.

I hope it turns up and in the same shape as you sent it.


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BATF has nothing to do with stolen firearms in transit. You need to contact the Postal Inspector that covers that area and report it to him/her. They are pretty good at tracking them down. I had a very expensive shotgun disappear at the airport mail center at JFK. After a few days of the postal service looking for it and not finding it I contacted the Postal Inspector. He found it in two days, I got it back and someone paid the price for shuffling it off in a corner somewhere. I wouldn't worry about your rifle yet. It hasn't been "missing" long enough to be overly concerned. Welcome to the forum!
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Joe, is spot on. I have shipped and received firearms through the USPS numerous times with only a single slowdown. Be patient, buckaroo. :)
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USPS Priority Mail is the only way to go compared to Usually Pieces Scattered. It's more expensive, especially across county, but I know it will get there and the claim process isn't rubber stamped "DENIED" the way UPS does it.
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You can send stuff registered, with a return receipt required. In
a previous life, my wife and I used to send high end musical
instruments back from repair this way. The service was FAR, FAR,
superior to what UPS offered. If the package is lost, somebody's
going to jail. It was quite pricey, though.

It might not be worth it for a 10/22, but it's another option.

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Welcome Rich, we must be neighbors. How close are you to Plant City?

I drove a mail truck for 9 years. Try contacting the inspection service in Tampa. That's where they work from. Your local P.O. can get you their phone number faster than you can find it.

Good Luck, be sure to keep us posted on your progress.
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Welcome, and FWIW, the next time (IF there ever IS a next time) mail the firearm ONLY via USPS Registered Mail (if you didn't, i.e.) - it's slower, but surer, since every person who touches the registered package must sign for it.
It's amazing how honest people can be, when they know they leave tracks..................

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86er wrote:BATF has nothing to do with stolen firearms in transit. You need to contact the Postal Inspector that covers that area and report it to him/her. They are pretty good at tracking them down. I had a very expensive shotgun disappear at the airport mail center at JFK. After a few days of the postal service looking for it and not finding it I contacted the Postal Inspector. He found it in two days, I got it back and someone paid the price for shuffling it off in a corner somewhere. I wouldn't worry about your rifle yet. It hasn't been "missing" long enough to be overly concerned. Welcome to the forum!
Yep, what Joe said. My Dad worked for the USPS for 35 years... there are many fine folks there that take their jobs seriously and with a great deal of pride. Just like anyplace else... the bad'uns give the vast majority a bad rep.

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Welcome Rich, we must be neighbors. How close are you to Plant City?
Hi. I'm in Land O Lakes, not that far from Plant City.
You need to contact the Postal Inspector that covers that area and report it to him/her.
Good info. I'll wait a few days and do that.
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86er wrote:BATF has nothing to do with stolen firearms in transit. You need to contact the Postal Inspector that covers that area and report it to him/her. They are pretty good at tracking them down. I had a very expensive shotgun disappear at the airport mail center at JFK. After a few days of the postal service looking for it and not finding it I contacted the Postal Inspector. He found it in two days, I got it back and someone paid the price for shuffling it off in a corner somewhere. I wouldn't worry about your rifle yet. It hasn't been "missing" long enough to be overly concerned. Welcome to the forum!
OK, so let me see if I'm understanding this right.
You ship a rifle via USPS and it comes up missing.
Chances are it's missing cos someone stole it.
But because it's missing in transit the ATF wont have anything to do with it?
So the senders sole recourse is the Postal Inspector?

Am I understanding this right? Seriously I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just trying to get this straight.

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Stealing a firearm is not a federal offense. Altering a serial number is a federal offense, blah blah blah. ATF does not investigate firearms thefts, with the exception of certain circumstances where a large # of firearms were stolen from a distributor or manufacturer. The local police at the point of theft are the primary law enforcement to investigate a firearms theft. The Postal Inspection (Inspectors) Service and Postal Office of Inspector General (Special Agents) have jurisdiction over all items in the custody, transit, care and deliverance of the postal service, as well as crimes committed on postal property and/or by postal employees while on-duty.
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OK, that clears it up quite a bit. Thanks Joe.

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I've shipped firearms through the USPS before, the last time being last June. Mailed a Cimarron/Uberti back to Cimarron at Fredericksburg, TX. Shipped it Priority Mail with Insurance and a Delivery Confirmation. It arrived in two days without problems. Many years ago I shipped a Ruger Blackhawk to the factory for some work. Used the Post Office then (you can't mail a pistol any longer through the U. S. Mail) without problems. While Registered is an option it ususaly cost much more and takes longer. Someone signs for it every step of the way. You don't say how you mailed it. Express Mail (overnite), Priority Mail (two to three days) or Parcel Post (sometimes a week to ten days).
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I was told when I worked there by a former Postal Inspector that they have to prove to the higher ups that they are needed thus when certain cases come up they will jump on it. Drugs are a big one, they get lots of coverage when they find drugs going thru the mail.
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Some progress here. I checked with the USPS tracking service today and got this reply:

Your item arrived at 6:00 am on March 24, 2011 in NEWPORT, NH 03773. The Postal Service expects to deliver the item on Monday, March 21, 2011.

Happy that the gun is almost at the Ruger factory. Curious about how they will deliver it three days ago. :roll:
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RichBMW wrote:Some progress here. I checked with the USPS tracking service today and got this reply:
Your item arrived at 6:00 am on March 24, 2011 in NEWPORT, NH 03773. The Postal Service expects to deliver the item on Monday, March 21, 2011.
Happy that the gun is almost at the Ruger factory. Curious about how they will deliver it three days ago. :roll:
The delivery guy probably already delivered it... just hadn't entered that status in the 'puter yet.
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IIRC, Ruger Cust Service has a toll-free TN - why not call them to find out if they have received your gun, and resolve your worries ?

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Ruger Cust Service has a toll-free TN - why not call them
Will do that first thing Friday morning.
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It sounds like you may have sent it "Parcel Post" (estimate of arrival time was the 21st) and it got misdirected which added the extra 3 days.
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If you ship via Postal Service, always use Registered Mail for shipping high-value merchandise of any type: it stays locked up at all times during transit and is signed for every time the package changes hands. The peace of mind is worth the slight increase in shipping cost--which might still be cheaper than using UPS, come to think of it.
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Received the postcard from Ruger yesterday. "We have your gun." Whew! It'll be a happy ending when it arrives fixed at my door. :P
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Great news!
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