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OK, it's kinda ugly and it's, long, heavy and loud. But, it was priced right and shoots economical 8mm mauser ammo, loads from stripper clips (so you don't need more magazines), field strips easily, has almost no recoil (due to the muzzle brake/flash hider) and has an adjustable gas system... The milsurp amm is priced around $120/380 rounds on stripper clips.
It's also kinda wierd the way it operates. The dust cover moves back and forth and grabs the bolt carrier to allow you to load, etc.
It's operating system is very robust - similar to the SKS in fact but uses a direct gas impingmnet like the AR-15 and French Mas 49.
It was made in Egypt under the supervision of the Swedes and is very similar to the Swedish Lgungeman (sp) 6.5x55 rifle. If you've seen a Swedish Mauser rifle - then you've seen the level of quality - very similar.
Ha! You da man. I've been thinking about one of those for some time as well. I'd also very much like to have a Ljungman! (I "need" an SVT-40 as well.)
Between the funky old 8mm ammo floating around out there and beat up old Hakims with "roomy" chambers I've read first hand reports of an alarming number of case head separations with these rifles. One guy I read said something like, "Yeah, I've had it happen three times but it usually just blows the magazine out of the rifle and maybe cracks the stock."
From what I've read, most of the problems with case head separations and hard extractions are due to people shooting the Turk milsurp ammo in them. Turk ammo is old and is getting "hotter" as time goes by. I have one bandoleer of that stuff left myself but I'll be either pulling the bullets and downloading or loading with new propellant before I shoot it.
Also, these have adjustable gas ports and if you adjust it the wrong way - to increase the gas flow, it can cause problems too.
And finger safety is all about understanding the function of the action - it is weird when compared to most other rifles.
My brother in law has one, cool rifle! Careful about the surplus ammo. After the second hang fire, about a 10-15 second delay, we quit using that stuff. Works great with reloads or new ammo.
John
Gettin old ain't for sissies!
There just has to be dogs in heaven !
Brno, I lucked out on over 800 rounds of the wooden bullet bland 6.5x55 ammo. I just pull the bullet, dump the old powder and load em up. They work great, and being berdan primmed, you don't have to chase the brass everwhere.
For those of you with the Hakim, WATCH OUT!! If you think an M1 thumb hurts than the Hakim thumb will amaze you! Every time I used to shoot mine my baseball cap would move, and shooters on either side of me would run for cover due to the muzzle blast.
Mescalero wrote:I have all the parts for a French Mas 49/56.
When I get to it, it will be 6.5x55MM.
What you think of that?
At the risk of totally hijacking the thread...
There's a local company taking the French MAS36, rebarreling to 7.62x39, adapting them to take AK mags (the one I saw had a 5rd mag) and mounting a Picatinny rail to the top. I was interested until I saw the $500 price tag....
If these walls could talk, I'd listen to the floor.
O.S.O.K. wrote:Mas 36 bolt guns? All of that and still no safety? $500? you gotta be kidding.
The MAS36's have a safety. IIRC from the MAS36 I used to have, you push in on the rear of the bolt and turn it one way or the other. If they weren't such heavy recoilers for the size and ammo was reasonable, I might still have one.
And yeah, $500 is nuts. At $350-425 I'd bite.
If these walls could talk, I'd listen to the floor.
O.S.O.K. wrote:Mas 36 bolt guns? All of that and still no safety? $500? you gotta be kidding.
The MAS36's have a safety. IIRC from the MAS36 I used to have, you push in on the rear of the bolt and turn it one way or the other. If they weren't such heavy recoilers for the size and ammo was reasonable, I might still have one.
And yeah, $500 is nuts. At $350-425 I'd bite.
If your MAS36 had a safety on the bolt, it had to be some sort of after market job. The Carcano and Arisaka have a safety similar to what you're describing, but none on the MAS36.
I do have one with a safety lever on the trigger, but it's a bit of a mystery. All the other features of the rifle are pre war, but the safety must have been some experimental design or a post war addition by some country.
JB wrote:If your MAS36 had a safety on the bolt, it had to be some sort of after market job. The Carcano and Arisaka have a safety similar to what you're describing, but none on the MAS36.
I had to do some digging and research and I think what I'm remembering is pushing the bolt head and striker in one time, turning it slightly and locking the bolt.
It's been 7-8 years since the rifle went down the road so I might have been trying to take the bolt down, didn't turn that part far enough to remove it and got the bolt locked. Old Timers is creeping up on me...
If these walls could talk, I'd listen to the floor.
JB wrote:If your MAS36 had a safety on the bolt, it had to be some sort of after market job. The Carcano and Arisaka have a safety similar to what you're describing, but none on the MAS36.
I had to do some digging and research and I think what I'm remembering is pushing the bolt head and striker in one time, turning it slightly and locking the bolt.
It's been 7-8 years since the rifle went down the road so I might have been trying to take the bolt down, didn't turn that part far enough to remove it and got the bolt locked. Old Timers is creeping up on me...
I'd say that's it (the bolt locked, not the Old Timers).
