More Kalifornia madness!!

jnyork · Post by **jnyork** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:45 pm

I am almost speechless with rage over this, but not quite!! These idiots have been doing this since the 1960's. My first experiece with them was when I returned from my last tour in Vietnam in 1969, there were several busloads of UC Berkeley students in the San Francisco airport terminal, waving signs, sitting in, cursing and spitting at the soldiers passing through. Welcome Home!! The town and the university of Berkeley have continued along these lines ever since. I guess Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Association dont mean anything if you are military. I moved away from Kali in 1978 when I retired from the Air Force, one of the happiest days of my life>

http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/ci_8127493
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J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:53 pm

Actions like this should be considered felony assault and battery. Victims of this assault should have the legal right to take what ever action is necessary to bring it to a halt.

Since that will never happen, how about a covert mission to Berkeley to extract all the perpetrators; students, administrators, government officials, who ever is responsible. Take them out to sea in an old derelict ship, lock them in the hold, sink it and create a well fertilized artificial reef.

Joe

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:01 pm

It is sad to see. Mr. Miller, I like your idea

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:09 pm

That was enough to make me vomit. I think a good idea would be to build a fence around the city, then hang a sign on the gate, "Plunderers & Looters Welcome, Especially By Raghead Nations".--------------Sixgun

Kilroy6644 · Post by **Kilroy6644** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:17 pm

I want to be there when the earthquake hits, and all the Berserkleys are begging for help, and the National Guard stands at the city limits to watch. "Sorry, wouldn't want to intrude."

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:26 pm

Such vile behavior. Do you see the difference between "D"s and "R"s now?

Hagler · Post by **Hagler** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:30 pm

MAN! That is SNAFU & FUBAR!

Blocking the sidewalk with yoga moves & smoking in doorways! Those are some mixed-up people!

The town council needs to be recalled, and the protesters all need to be spanked in public. The Marine Corps needs to make it clear that they WILL NOT come to the aid of the city, nor to help anyone on the council, as well as any of the proteters. ...or, the Marine Corps should open up a couple dozen additional recruiting offices, and offer lolipops to all who visit them. ...maybe, a free box of ammo, and some BDUs, too. Yeah, that'll do it.

I will hazzard a guess that, if, abortion protestors were to behave that way in front of a clinic, then the council would not react the same way. What a pity.

Shawn

gary rice · Post by **gary rice** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:56 pm

i ets'd from nam at oakland army base in 70, should have picked another route as they were waiting for us to.

jnyork wrote:I am almost speechless with rage over this, but not quite!! These idiots have been doing this since the 1960's. My first experiece with them was when I returned from my last tour in Vietnam in 1969, there were several busloads of UC Berkeley students in the San Francisco airport terminal, waving signs, sitting in, cursing and spitting at the soldiers passing through. Welcome Home!! The town and the university of Berkeley have continued along these lines ever since. I guess Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Association dont mean anything if you are military. I moved away from Kali in 1978 when I retired from the Air Force, one of the happiest days of my life>

http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/ci_8127493
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Bridger · Post by **Bridger** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:38 pm

"This is very serious," Rachel said. "This isn't a game; it's mass murder. There's a sickness of silence of people not speaking out against the war. We have to do this."

No, Rachael, you are the sick one.

Jayhawker · Post by **Jayhawker** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:56 pm

I can't get mad at all this craziness anymore. I'm so tired of this type of stuff I just feel like crying sometimes.

I made the mistake of wearing my Navy crackerjacks through San Fran airport in the early 70s. It was painfully obvious then that I was probably the only one proud of my uniform. Looks like we've gone full circle, if we've gone anywhere.

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:07 pm

While I personally find the activity destestable, and barely understand the basis for protest, it is just such activity by U.S. citizens that the U.S. military, the Marine Corps included, exists to defend.

These strange people have a right, even though they obviously do not understand how or why.

This is comedy and should be handled as such.

In my mind, the best way to disrupt the protests would be for the recruiting staff inside the center to shed their uniforms during their breaks or after business hours and engage in a little free speech of their own by joining the crowd and exercising their own 1st Amendment rights by waving a few signs that they've prepared. e.g.:

"Marines = Red, White, and Blue"

"Code Pink = Yellow"

"Marines = The smell of death"

"Code Pink = The smell of fear and urine"

...etc., etc., etc.,

BruceB · Post by **BruceB** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:18 pm

That's Berkley. The Bay Area is a whole different world from the rest of us. If you ever wondered what ever happened to the 60's denizens of Haight/Ashbury, now you know. They migrated to Berkley.

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:31 pm

I don't even know where to begin.

brucew44guns · Post by **brucew44guns** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:20 pm

I remember when President Reagan sent a bunch of Marines and Navy ships down to Grenada. The Island was under seige by a ruthless band of tyrants who hoped to take over this Island and it's govt. The US had quite a few students down there going to school. I don't remember all the particulars, but I do remember many of those students--- after they were rescued by our military, when their feet were back on US soil, they dropped down and kissed the ground they stood on. The United States, and it's military force, looked pretty good to that bunch of folks about then. No doubt for many of them, it had scared hell out of them as they contemplated being killed by hostiles on that Island. The marines and other service branches were directly credited with saving them. Now look at these pigs and slimes in Berkley. Too bad some event can't come along that makes Grenada look like a childs game, and the Marines just stand there and laugh themselves into a coma. No doubt, these very ones in Berkley would too be saved by the fabulous men and women of our armed forces. Joe's idea on solving this does have appeal for sure.

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:31 pm

brucew44guns wrote:I remember when President Reagan sent a bunch of Marines and Navy ships down to Grenada. The Island was under seige by a ruthless band of tyrants who hoped to take over this Island and it's govt. The US had quite a few students down there going to school. I don't remember all the particulars, but I do remember many of those students--- after they were rescued by our military, when their feet were back on US soil, they dropped down and kissed the ground they stood on. The United States, and it's military force, looked pretty good to that bunch of folks about then. No doubt for many of them, it had scared hell out of them as they contemplated being killed by hostiles on that Island. The marines and other service branches were directly credited with saving them. Now look at these pigs and slimes in Berkley. Too bad some event can't come along that makes Grenada look like a childs game, and the Marines just stand there and laugh themselves into a coma. No doubt, these very ones in Berkley would too be saved by the fabulous men and women of our armed forces.

Bruce, I know that it's not what you said, but I find it offensive in the extreme to suggest that any U.S. Marine would laugh if he recognized a U.S. citizen were in harms way.

I can't tell you how such a thought affects me. It's simply unthinkable.

Hank Dodge · Post by **Hank Dodge** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:15 pm

Those nut-jobs in Bezerkley make me sick. Unfortunately, I live just southeast of there. It is sad to say, but there are way too many folks that think like that. They just don't get it. The inmates are running the asylum.

Every time I see a group like that protesting on the street, I just reach down and dial up the go-box on my truck. Man....that Dodge Cummins lays down one heck of a smokescreen!!! Maybe it's wrong of me to smoke those poor misguided miscreants, but it sure makes me feel good to show my support for our men in uniform.

Hank

Scott64A · Post by **Scott64A** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:23 pm

"Even though the council items passed, not everyone is happy with the work of Code Pink. Some employees and owners of businesses near the Marines office have had enough of the group and its protests.

"My husband's business is right upstairs, and this (protesting) is bordering on harassment," Dori Schmidt told the council. "I hope this stops."

An employee of a nearby business who asked not to be identified said Wednesday the elderly Code Pink protesters are aggressive, take up parking spaces, block the sidewalk with their yoga moves, smoke in the doorways, and are noisy.

"Most of the people around here think they're a joke," the woman said. "

This pretty much sums it up, and the elected officials in Quirkley have their heads up their backsides.

It's ok for the mentally handicapped hipsters to harrass everyone else to make their stupid point. Nice message, now go the hell home.
Double standards...

I'd go upside their old crazy heads with a bat.
Well, not really, but 'd like a moment to daydream about it if you don't mind.

Jeeps · Post by **Jeeps** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:39 pm

It's not so much the protesters that bother me, what they are doing is what
allot of us went into the service to protect, the American way of life.

If they believe what they say, then they have a right to say it.

As Mr. Wiedner put it they are comical, and should be treated as such.

Doesn't mean I'm not fighting the urge to rush in with my Ka-bar

It's the politicians who make it easy and cater to them while saying a
recruiters voice should not be heard in schools. It's allowing one form of
free speech to harass (the one they side with) and trying to stifle the one
they disagree with.

Even the hippies should recognize it for what it is.

brucew44guns · Post by **brucew44guns** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:45 pm

Mr. Wiedners 2nd post makes a comment about our servicemen that I totally agree with. Human Nature is powerful, it seeks revenge and settling the score. Yet the fact that our Marines and other armed services personnel keep themselves under control in tough situations is testament to their love of country, love of fellow Americans, and respect for their own branch of service. They are really committed to what they do and believe in. I always thought that people would have had to be crazy to spit at, or call foul names to a returning Viet Nam soldier at an airport or anywhere for that matter. Yet they did do that, and I can't remember ever hearing about a soldier cold-cocking anyone. Truth is, our service men really don't need to settle any score with people like this, I firmly believe that "You reap what you sow", these pinko's will have their own Waterloo some fine day all on their own, when they start reaping what's been sown by their own hands.

JReed · Post by **JReed** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:54 pm

. Miserable @#$%^&* wretches

Hagler · Post by **Hagler** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:34 am

Actually, gentlemen, FWiedner got me to thinking. Maybe the recruiters should shed their uniforms and go out to be with the protestors, but they should pretend to be protestors, too. Now that is comedy!

Shawn

handirifle · Post by **handirifle** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:52 am

Free speech of citizenry is one thing, but for the city clouncil to endorse it is reprehensible.

I for one would NOT care if the marines turned their backs on them in a time of need. Why? Because it's exactly what the morons are asking them to do.

Be careful what you ask for!

donw · Post by **donw** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:18 am

i believe a boycott of the berkley area by any and all connected to the military and veterans as well might open their eyes. i came home before the demonstrations began but was given grief by some of the folks i worked with.

i wrote the moron bloomberg..... errrrrrr... the "mayor" of nyc a letter telling him i was going to go there for a visit and a tour and in view of his anti-gun stance i elected to change my choice to go to a different area instead BECAUSE OF HIS anti-gun stance.

KirkD · Post by **KirkD** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:37 pm

I suggest that the 'women's peace group Code Pink' be shipped off to Iran to have one of their little protests there. As the survivors attempted to recover from their injuries in a jail from their nightmares, I'm sure they might develop an appreciation for the marines that they never had before.

What goes around, comes around. Chances are, most of those people will live long enough to see things beyond their worst nightmares .... it is inevitable.

More Kalifornia madness!!

More Kalifornia madness!!

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one day they will pay, hopefully

Re: one day they will pay, hopefully

self control