I am not happy with the tang mounted peep sight on my Marlin 39a. (Tang mounted peeps work better on a hammerless rifle, like the 99.) I'm also not happy with the front sight, which occludes the peep with a large bead on a short post, on a large block... all that stuff nearly covers the target.
What front sight works well with a Williams FP receiver sight on the 39a?
what front sight for 39a with Wms FP?
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Chuck 100 yd
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Joe, I'd like to know exactly what post sight and height you use with a Williams aperture? (Mine's a Williams side-mounted 5D.)
When I fixed up my .357 Marlin 1894c 18-1/2", I put on an original Redfield Sourdough that I lucked onto at a gun show. It's a bit short at .432 (no ramp.) With the Williams 5D as low as it will go, the carbine hits precisely a half-inch high at 25 yards with the 158 gr. Hornady jacketed which is the most accurate bullet I've found for this gun. Lighter bullets hit much higher. Original Sourdough's aren't all that common; the Brownell/Marble's ones are the only ones I'm aware of. I guess you could use a blackpowder 'primitive' sight and file it to zero.
I've just learned to live with the slight amount my gun is hitting high, but it's so accurate that it would be nice to zero it EXACTLY: it'd be perfect for decapitatin' our ruffed grouse along logging roads. (BTW, my gun is an older one, I bought it new in 1981.)
As an aside, 180 gr. premium jacketed bullets from my small stash hit pretty much on the dot with this sighting setup. Could be worse, eh?
When I fixed up my .357 Marlin 1894c 18-1/2", I put on an original Redfield Sourdough that I lucked onto at a gun show. It's a bit short at .432 (no ramp.) With the Williams 5D as low as it will go, the carbine hits precisely a half-inch high at 25 yards with the 158 gr. Hornady jacketed which is the most accurate bullet I've found for this gun. Lighter bullets hit much higher. Original Sourdough's aren't all that common; the Brownell/Marble's ones are the only ones I'm aware of. I guess you could use a blackpowder 'primitive' sight and file it to zero.
I've just learned to live with the slight amount my gun is hitting high, but it's so accurate that it would be nice to zero it EXACTLY: it'd be perfect for decapitatin' our ruffed grouse along logging roads. (BTW, my gun is an older one, I bought it new in 1981.)
As an aside, 180 gr. premium jacketed bullets from my small stash hit pretty much on the dot with this sighting setup. Could be worse, eh?
The Wise said: "This cannot be done." The Fool came, and did it.
+1Hobie wrote:The factory issue...
Mine is a fine bead and I lined up the FP with the barrel sight, it was dead on past 100 yards.
I always use a fine bead and don't care for the blade sight with a peep. Different style I guess. I don't care what the bead covers, IT'S THE BULLET, it covers the entrance hole..,
Grizz
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jnyork
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I use the Lyman 17a with a post insert. Using a post is different than using a bead, with the bead you put the bead on the target, with the post you use a 6 o'clock hold. The trouble with the bead is that it tends to cover up the whole target, particularly at further distances, while with the post you can see the target clearly no matter what the distance. Hope this helps.
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J Miller
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slabsides,
I wish I could give you a specific answer. But I can't. All the lever guns I've fitted Williams and Lyman receiver sights to have been centerfires. On those I've never had to change heights of front sights after installing the receiver sight, so I put a Redfield Sourdough closest to the height of the original front sight in the ramp. And it worked great.
In 1980 I bought my Trapper 30-30 and put a Williams FP on it. The factory post front sight was perfect. It's still there.
In 1986 I bought my Trapper .45 and put a Lyman 66A on it. Again the factory front post was just fine. And it's still there too.
From the experiment I did with a Williams FPGR sight on my 9422 the factory front sight height should be OK.
Sorry I can't be more specific.
Since Redfield doesn't make the Sourdough anymore, and Marbles has discontinued them I plan on buying Skinner front sights and custom tailoring them to my guns. That would be the easiest way to go in my opinion.
Joe
I wish I could give you a specific answer. But I can't. All the lever guns I've fitted Williams and Lyman receiver sights to have been centerfires. On those I've never had to change heights of front sights after installing the receiver sight, so I put a Redfield Sourdough closest to the height of the original front sight in the ramp. And it worked great.
In 1980 I bought my Trapper 30-30 and put a Williams FP on it. The factory post front sight was perfect. It's still there.
In 1986 I bought my Trapper .45 and put a Lyman 66A on it. Again the factory front post was just fine. And it's still there too.
From the experiment I did with a Williams FPGR sight on my 9422 the factory front sight height should be OK.
Sorry I can't be more specific.
Since Redfield doesn't make the Sourdough anymore, and Marbles has discontinued them I plan on buying Skinner front sights and custom tailoring them to my guns. That would be the easiest way to go in my opinion.
Joe
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