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Great old Photo!

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No information available but lots of clues in the photo.

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IMO, there's a man who considers his work a business worth investing in. He's got a lot of money tied up in his horse, rig, clothing and weapons.
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The guy looks a lot more real than most photo subjects, but the first thing that caught my eye was that it looked like it would be hard to walk with that pistol worn so low. Sort of reminds me of the way city kids wear their pants nowadays.
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I noticed the low-slung holster as well. I can't tell if it's just a crease in his leggings or if the rig is tied down. Tied down wasn't done much before Hollywood and the hangy-downy buscudero rig became so common.

I do notce that his rig is not a hangy-downy buscadero.
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Cool photo. He's the real deal, but I can't say why he's slung that belt so low. Maybe just for the pictures sake as I can see it being a real pain to walk in. It's just about low enough to fall down under it's own weight with him just standing there. And, he does have some coin wrapped up in his riggin and equipment. Thanks, RR7.
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Looks like the rig would be comfortable to ride in that way. I've never worn a rig nor ridden much so that's just a wag.
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I'm wondering about the amount of ammo he appears to be carrying. If that is a double row rig, he might be some kind of animal bounty hunter. I do believe he's the real thing though. His rig isn't tied down, and the weight of it seems to be pulling it down. Strange.
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The hardest thing to explain is the rig. Must be a concession for poseing that he doctored up. Otherwise he strikes me as being freshly out of the cavary, and someone in a booming mineing camp wanted to take his picture when he rode through. Also he is left handed unless the negative is turned around?
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Booger Bill wrote:The hardest thing to explain is the rig. Must be a concession for poseing that he doctored up. Otherwise he strikes me as being freshly out of the cavary, and someone in a booming mineing camp wanted to take his picture when he rode through. Also he is left handed unless the negative is turned around?
If the negative had been reversed, that would mean the signage on the tent was backwards in reality.

Being as I am left-handed myself, that was the first thing I noticed about the photo. I also recalled the well-known "photograph" of Billy the kid, which was in fact a mirror image, but gave rise to the popular myth of him being left-handed.
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I yam embarassed, I shoulda noticed that!
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Unless I'm mistaken, He's wearing the pistol butt-forward, cross-draw fashion. It would work just fine for mounted carry. Can't account for the long cartridge loops/cartridges in the belt though. The saddle is from the late 1880s, would be my surmise, and the rest of the outfit fits right in, with a woolen shirt and gauntlets. The gloves look to be on the heavy side...

That's an adobe wall behind the sutler's tent, which hints Arizona, New Mexico or Texas to me. A rawhide reata and a flat-brimmed hat round out the deal.

And the HORSE... A hammer-headed bronc if ever one was foaled, fer certain. He'd be lucky to be able to drink from a wash-tub...

I'm guessing the sign says, "LOOMIS & MARKEY" but the names don't ring a very loud bell for me right now.
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I can’t tell if it’s two ammo belts or one double row belt... Notice how the buckle looks to be part of the holster..
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Looks more like 2 belts, in your blow-up... The billet on the bottom one sits out in front of or over the holster, in this view.
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He could be a market hunter? That was big business in the '80's and 90's?

On the other hand the photographer guy comes through camp, the fellow decides he'll have his photo taken, and says hang on let me go and get my new guns and put them on while you set up that camera.
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That horses mother must have ruptured herself giving birth to that head :lol:
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I enjoy the discussion as much as I enjoy the old pictures. Thanks for both.
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Well, I will put my 2 cents in. I thinks he is a LEO of some kind. Maybe a Arizona or Texas ranger. He has a scout belt on or it could be two belts. Anyone that took that much ammo was not going on a short trip. I don't think he is a hunter of game. He is out for men some where in the Southwest. I don't think we will know for sure. Many rangers slide there cartridge belts around for photos. Who knows but it is a great photo.
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rangerider7 wrote:....... Many rangers slide there cartridge belts around for photos.....
I don't believe they do it for photos, I believe they carry that way. Its much easier to reach with the cartriges in front. The cartridges also don't rub on the saddle cantle when in front (or your truck seat or chairs). I tend to carry pistol rounds on the back, and if I add a rifle cartridge belt over it, it gets buckled in back or to the side so the rounds are easy to reach and use.
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Gee, nobody said anything about the '73 Winchester carbine or the pearl handled pistol - Colt? Do we deduce he is left handed because his lasso is tied to the left side of the saddle? We're beginning to become detectives here on this site. I love it!
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Buck Elliott wrote:Unless I'm mistaken, He's wearing the pistol butt-forward, cross-draw fashion. It would work just fine for mounted carry. Can't account for the long cartridge loops/cartridges in the belt though. The saddle is from the late 1880s, would be my surmise, and the rest of the outfit fits right in, with a woolen shirt and gauntlets. The gloves look to be on the heavy side...

That's an adobe wall behind the sutler's tent, which hints Arizona, New Mexico or Texas to me. A rawhide reata and a flat-brimmed hat round out the deal.

And the HORSE... A hammer-headed bronc if ever one was foaled, fer certain. He'd be lucky to be able to drink from a wash-tub...

I'm guessing the sign says, "LOOMIS & MARKEY" but the names don't ring a very loud bell for me right now.
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Buck Elliott wrote:Unless I'm mistaken, He's wearing the pistol butt-forward, cross-draw fashion. It would work just fine for mounted carry. Can't account for the long cartridge loops/cartridges in the belt though. The saddle is from the late 1880s, would be my surmise, and the rest of the outfit fits right in, with a woolen shirt and gauntlets. The gloves look to be on the heavy side...

That's an adobe wall behind the sutler's tent, which hints Arizona, New Mexico or Texas to me. A rawhide reata and a flat-brimmed hat round out the deal.

And the HORSE... A hammer-headed bronc if ever one was foaled, fer certain. He'd be lucky to be able to drink from a wash-tub...

I'm guessing the sign says, "LOOMIS & MARKEY" but the names don't ring a very loud bell for me right now.
try this again.
i agree mostly with buck, what do you bet the bottom word on the tent is photographers?
also i'll say southpaw or his catch rope would be on the other side of his saddle.
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He looks to be the real deal!

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