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So what is the consensus: studio props or authentic gear?
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Naw, that cancer stick is more likely to get 'er! Load 4, skip 1, load 1, pull to full cock and pull the trigger, leaves an empty chamber under the hammer, and even if it falls, it has to cock itself to somehow become dangerous. Although, it is lucky that's the case, because I can only think of one good reason to prop the gun on the edge of hoster like that... to show off yer COLT!!!!!
EDIT: OH MY GOSH!!!! I just looked again... that's an 1851 .36 Belt Model COLT's Patent firearm! Ain't no load 4, skip 1, load 1 to that puppy!!! And it's at FULL cock... Just like ... ready to go off at a moment's notice!!!! But, I suspect that neither she, nor the photographer know enough to check it... and since the Lord protects fools, they probably both lived long and productive lives!!!
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Griff,
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Griff wrote:Naw, that cancer stick is more likely to get 'er! Load 4, skip 1, load 1, pull to full cock and pull the trigger, leaves an empty chamber under the hammer, and even if it falls, it has to cock itself to somehow become dangerous. Although, it is lucky that's the case, because I can only think of one good reason to prop the gun on the edge of hoster like that... to show off yer COLT!!!!!
EDIT: OH MY GOSH!!!! I just looked again... that's an 1851 .36 Belt Model COLT's Patent firearm! Ain't no load 4, skip 1, load 1 to that puppy!!! And it's at FULL cock... Just like ... ready to go off at a moment's notice!!!! But, I suspect that neither she, nor the photographer know enough to check it... and since the Lord protects fools, they probably both lived long and productive lives!!!
hey griff, ain't that backward? or did i read it wrong?
load 1, skip 1, load 4, pull hammer and lower,no?
Posed studio props probably including the fag. I bet she wanted a photo of herself breaking almost all the rules, pants, gun, cigarette, man's hat... Probably sent home to put Momma into an apoplectic fit...
PS the clothes are 1920s era so I bet the old "hawgleg" had long been empty...
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Highly polished brogans dont fit the rest of the slightly scuzzy outfit. Revolver looks rusty. Cancer stick isnt lit. Likely carnival photo, I'm thinkin'.
Studio photo.
Funny, that cocked pistol reminds me of an old, silent movie I think, where the leading actor actually had a Colt cocked in his holster for the scene. That made him quicker on the draw than the bad guy. Really corny to watch. I wish I could remember the title.
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The actor was Francis X. Bushman.
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Gun Smith wrote:Studio photo.
Funny, that cocked pistol reminds me of an old, silent movie I think, where the leading actor actually had a Colt cocked in his holster for the scene. That made him quicker on the draw than the bad guy. Really corny to watch. I wish I could remember the title.
Don't you remember the scene in Tombstone just before the Gunfight t the OK Corral?
The McLawry brothers, Billy Claiborne and Billy Clanton all drew and cocked their revolvers and returned them to their holsters as they awaited the Earps and Doc Holiday.
Personally I don't believe I'd do that. If i felt I needed an edge that bad, I'd keepe the cocked sixgun in my hand.
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Ysabel Kid wrote:Holy Moly! Loaded or not, having a cocked revolver in your holster?!?
YK, don't you know anything. . . why that's just 'condition one' the way they did it before the 1911's came along. . .
More like Condition Zero.
Sort of like a bunch of Army Air Force pilots flying "Over the hump" from India to China. i read that lots of those wild men carried their m-1911-A1's in Condition Zero, i.e. Cocked, loaded chamber and safety not applied. The idjits relied upon the grip safety only. IMO they were being entirely too bold.
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pokey, you got it right mate, load 1 skip one load 4 drawback hammer and rest on empty chamber. Guess the sheila dont need cartridges in the belt loops if its cap n ball in the holster, might be different if its a cartridge conversion. The smoke will last alot longer without a light hey!!
Griff wrote:Naw, that cancer stick is more likely to get 'er! Load 4, skip 1, load 1, pull to full cock and pull the trigger, leaves an empty chamber under the hammer, and even if it falls, it has to cock itself to somehow become dangerous. Although, it is lucky that's the case, because I can only think of one good reason to prop the gun on the edge of hoster like that... to show off yer COLT!!!!!
EDIT: OH MY GOSH!!!! I just looked again... that's an 1851 .36 Belt Model COLT's Patent firearm! Ain't no load 4, skip 1, load 1 to that puppy!!! And it's at FULL cock... Just like ... ready to go off at a moment's notice!!!! But, I suspect that neither she, nor the photographer know enough to check it... and since the Lord protects fools, they probably both lived long and productive lives!!!
hey griff, ain't that backward? or did i read it wrong?
load 1, skip 1, load 4, pull hammer and lower,no?
YES.... AYE GAWD... I HAVE been playin' wid the 1851s TOO loong!!
Good catch! My hands can do it my sleep, but let the brain get involved and I'll screw it up!!
Griff,
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GUSA #93
There is a fine line between hobby & obsession! AND... I'm over it!!
No I ain't ready, but let's do it anyway!
The putees are a nice touch. Must have taken her 1/2 an hour to get in that costume.
There is no way to tell now, but I would bet money that the hammer on that old revolver is rusted in the cocked position. I've seen more than one replica in that state.
Reminds me of that wanda jackson song, "This gun doesnt care who it shoots!"
By the way, why would air crewmen find a need to carry a cocked and unlocked pistol in a bomber???
Booger Bill wrote:Reminds me of that wanda jackson song, "This gun doesnt care who it shoots!"
By the way, why would air crewmen find a need to carry a cocked and unlocked pistol in a bomber???
Stylin' and profilin'!
Sincerely,
Hobie
"We are all travelers in the wilderness of this world, and the best that we find in our travels is an honest friend." Robert Louis Stevenson
According to my grandfather , who was there, factory smokes were not popular till after WWI and women generaly didn't smoke in public till the flapper era. Hence this is a studio job and that prop gun was probably rusted on full cock for years befre the picture was taken. The LADY in question is also suspect in her dress or rather lack there of as Ladies didn't wear pants in public either. I can remember my Grandmother carrying on about my mother and her jeans even into the 50's.
Lawyer Daggit wrote:Is it load one skip one load 4 or load 4 skip 1.... i'm confused.....
(I don't own a SA revolver)
It's load on, skip one, then load 4. Then pull the hammer off half cock to full cock and then ease it down on an empty chamber.
From the shape of the hammer face and the slightly elongates grip I'm going to say it's a Colt 1860 pattern. It's probably not a conversion because the loading port or cut-out in the recoil shield is still configured for capping, not deep enough for cartridges.
Booger Bill wrote:
By the way, why would air crewmen find a need to carry a cocked and unlocked pistol in a bomber???
'Tweren't Bomber Pilots. It was a bunch of Air Transport pilots flying C-47's and Constellations.
I don't know how peacealbe the Indian end of the route might have been, but on the Chinese end of the route, things were pretty wild and woolly. Not to mention the constant danger or crashing in some of the world's most inhospitable terrain, and that didn't even take bandits, warlords, Communist Rebels, or Japanese into consideration.
I suspect that having a .45 Colt on your hip was right comforting as they layover before flying back to India.
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