First deer with a Winchester 1873 Saddle Ring Carbine

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Moonlitin
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First deer with a Winchester 1873 Saddle Ring Carbine

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I posted this on the other levergun site a little more than a year ago, so some of you may remember it. I referred to this rifle in my first post at this site and someone asked me to post that story again...so here goes.

I was fishing in the spring of 2006 with a good friend of mine. We were having a good day and just talking when he asked me about my 14 year old son. At some point during the conversation I must have mentioned that my son really wanted a lever action rifle. Well, the next time we went fishing he told me that he had an "old lever action rifle" that he hasn't used in years. He wasn't even sure if ammo was available for it any more. He told me that it was his grandfather's rifle, then his father's rifle, and now he had it. For the last 30 years it has hung over his fireplace. His son doesn't hunt and wasn't interested in firearms, so if we wanted it, he said we could have it.

I thanked him for the offer, and I suggested that if it was that old maybe he should check it out first and see what it was worth. At that point I didn't even know what it was, but I didn't want to take a valuable family heirloom from a good friend who might regret giving it away later. His reply was "I would rather give it to you than sell it to a collector who's just going to try to sell it again for a profit. If you guys want it, it's yours, just let me know."

I was still unsure about taking it, so I asked a couple of friends. They convinced me that he knew what he had, and he knew what it was worth, and he wanted it to go to someone who would really appreciate it. So I agreed to take it.

My friend explained what he knew of the history of the rifle to me as he pulled it out of the case. He said, "I'd be happy if you guys shoot it and enjoy it". When I saw it I almost fell over. It was an original Winchester 1873 Saddle Ring Carbine chambered in .44-40 and built in 1883.

Needless to say, my son was more than thrilled with the rifle. He hung on my every word as I explained to him how that rifle came into my friend's family and how my friend had chose him to receive it. My son has always admired this friend of mine, even before he received the rifle, so that made this old rifle even more special to him. While my son was admiring his "new" rifle, he announced to me "I'm going to kill my first deer with this rifle".

Before we shot it, I had the rifle checked out by a gunsmith to make sure we wouldn't damage it (our ourselves) by shooting it. Then I picked up some cowboy action loads and headed for the range. We had a ball shooting it that day. When we got home my son mailed a thank you card, some pictures, and a few targets to my friend.

I got some advice on a load we could use for deer hunting from the guys at the old levergun site. I decided on the factory Remington load, and then we headed to the woods at another friend's place that fall. A nice doe came in to about 30 yards one evening. My son raised the old Winchester 1873, squeezed off a shot, and the deer dropped in her tracks without even taking a step. We couldn't believe it. A rifle that was 123 years old at the time and still getting the job done. I'm not sure who was more excited that evening...my son, me, or the landowner who let us hunt on his property.

I emailed the story and a picture to my friend who gave my son the rifle. His reply was "you can't imagine how happy the story and picture made me feel this morning".

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When I posted this picture last time, a few very observant levergunners noticed the cocked hammer in the picture. We unloaded the rifle before we set up for the picture, but in the excitement of the moment we forgot to let the hammer back down on the empty chamber.

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Post by Dave »

That story is better every time I hear it :D
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Moon,
That's really great. Do you mind tellin... the rest of the story? How did your friend's grandfather come by the rifle.

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Post by J Miller »

The smile on your sons face gets bigger every time I see that picture.

Good story and congratulate him if a bit late on his first deer.

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Post by Moonlitin »

Rusty wrote:Moon,
That's really great. Do you mind tellin... the rest of the story? How did your friend's grandfather come by the rifle.

Rusty <><
The rest of the story goes like this...my friend's gramps was a judge. A fella who was in trouble with the law needed to raise some cash real quick to stay out of jail. That fella sold his rifle to the judge, who was my friend's grandfather. He eventually handed the rifle down to his son (my friend's father), who passed it on to his son (my friend), and he gave it to my son.

There is a small "8" or "B" stamped (not carved) into the buttstock of the rifle. I have not been able to determine what it means. One person I asked thought it could have been that rifle's position in a rack. He suggested that since my friend's grandfather was a judge, the rifle could have come from a sherrif's department or prison, and that the story about a fella selling it to raise some quick cash was just a story.

I have no reason to doubt my friend's version of the story, although when I hear how some of you guys justify the purchase of a new rifle to your wives, it does make me wonder...

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Post by SmokeEater2 »

That is one of the absolute best first deer stories I've ever read. It did my soul good. Thanks for sharing that with us moonlitin.
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Post by Griff »

Yep, one of the BEST! Thanks for sharing it again.
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wonderful! thank you.
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Post by KirkD »

It just makes my day everything I see an old Winchester doing what it was originally designed to do. Especially good is your young fellow's experience.
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Post by JReed »

To cool and what a great story to go with a great gun. May your son shoot many more with her.
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Post by .45colt »

Thanks very much. It's one of the best posts I have read here in around seven years.. Jim.
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Post by PPpastordon »

What a great post. What a great levergun! What a great friend. And that smile on your sons face tells the world that there is still hope for the United State's future. He sure looks like a future "lifelong hunter."
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:D :D :D :P :D :D :D
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Post by JerryB »

Thank you sir, it is still worth the time to read. What a treasure your son was handed.
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Post by Rusty »

Thanks Moon,

Maybe it's just a sign of old age but it seems sometimes the story that goes along with something like that makes it all that much more interesting.

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Post by kimwcook »

Excellent story. I hope your son is able to start his own lineage and add it to the rifles history. And, maybe another 100+ years down the road one of your descendant's shoots his/her first deer with it. That would be super cool.
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Post by jbm1968 »

I remember the story and picture from the first time and am happy to hear it again! Thank you for putting it back up!
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Post by getitdone1 »

Thanks for the outstanding story and picture.

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Post by Nath »

Thats just fantastic, I love you guys- in Britain they'd have you believe that that bullet will just bounce of a deer! Many thanks, Nath.
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Post by LeverBob »

Love posts like this...keeps the hope up for the next generation using quality equipment that the unwashed wouldn't consider. A fine young man to boot.

It does not get any better than this.

Congrats pard...ya' done good :wink:

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Post by jengel »

Great story and great rifle. I have an 1873 made in 1883 chambered in 32-20.
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