256 Win Leverguns
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
I have always wanted to do that, if you go ahead, please keep us informed.
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
I thought long and hard about doing the same thing, but I wanted to do a complete custom with a pistol grip, 2/3 magazine, high grade wood and the rest. I was thinking of something equivalent to a late 19th Century high grade Marlin and the expense was just too rich for my blood at the time (and still would be today). I did have a Martini Cadet in .256 and found it to be extremely accurate (0.75" for 5-shot groups at 100 yards or better with a 75 grain spitzer bullet - may still have the data somewhere), but the rifle has long since gone down the road. One of the dumber sales in my long history of getting rid of guns I should have kept.
You'll find that 60 grain jacketed hollow points (the original bullet in this cartridge) are almost unobtainable. The 60 grain flat points are fair substitutes, but have a poorer ballistic coefficient. I tried a number of different bullet weights before settling on the 75 grain spitzer types as the best combination for the rifle. If you go with the spitzers in the magazine tube, limit yourself to one in the rifle and one in the magazine. No need to have one set off the round in front of it under your hand.
You'll find that 60 grain jacketed hollow points (the original bullet in this cartridge) are almost unobtainable. The 60 grain flat points are fair substitutes, but have a poorer ballistic coefficient. I tried a number of different bullet weights before settling on the 75 grain spitzer types as the best combination for the rifle. If you go with the spitzers in the magazine tube, limit yourself to one in the rifle and one in the magazine. No need to have one set off the round in front of it under your hand.
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
Yes,
but but not in the "cowboy " configuration, I believe it was a model 62
.30 carbine
.256 Win Mag
.22 Mag
One of the picture unchallenged guys will come up with a picture.
but but not in the "cowboy " configuration, I believe it was a model 62
.30 carbine
.256 Win Mag
.22 Mag
One of the picture unchallenged guys will come up with a picture.
Re: 256 Win Leverguns
Here's one from our own site!
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Hobie
"We are all travelers in the wilderness of this world, and the best that we find in our travels is an honest friend." Robert Louis Stevenson
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
Ouch!
And after I was so nice to you on the .41 Mag.
And after I was so nice to you on the .41 Mag.
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
You are talking a major old intrest of mine here! I started out with a ruger hawkeye and let it get away. Then I had a beautifull martini built up in 256 win mag. That one got away too. I still own a T/C barrel in .256. I have always wanted a win 92 built up in one. I know a guy who has one in calif. He took his along to africa with sucess on a hunt. Of course I am well aware of probable hazzard of pointed bullets in the tube magazine. 1st, in reality I dont think the gun would kick hard enough to really worry about it. (The gunshop owner/gunsmith with the one I mentioned, doesnt worry about it.)
Even so, a round nose could be used. Here is my brainstorm. Maybe someday one of you can try it. Get a old loading tube off a old remington pump and use that. You know, the tube that looks like a big old screw that they used 75 years ago so the loaded shells pointed bullet was off set from the primer on the one in front?
I love that cartridge in a rifle. I never really compared it to a 25/20 and others, but found it light recoiling, accuarte, and pretty durn fast! I want a old winchester 92 octogon barreled short rifle in .256 win mag!!
Even so, a round nose could be used. Here is my brainstorm. Maybe someday one of you can try it. Get a old loading tube off a old remington pump and use that. You know, the tube that looks like a big old screw that they used 75 years ago so the loaded shells pointed bullet was off set from the primer on the one in front?
I love that cartridge in a rifle. I never really compared it to a 25/20 and others, but found it light recoiling, accuarte, and pretty durn fast! I want a old winchester 92 octogon barreled short rifle in .256 win mag!!
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
Bogus Bill,
I am not trying to stir the pot but:
You guys know the .30 Herrett?
A .25 caliber wildcat was made from that.
I think the 92 would have enough room to cycle that round.
That would be a hoot!
I am not trying to stir the pot but:
You guys know the .30 Herrett?
A .25 caliber wildcat was made from that.
I think the 92 would have enough room to cycle that round.
That would be a hoot!
Re: 256 Win Leverguns
Well I am thinking of making this on a winchester model 92 action and you do realize that you want a barrel that is .257 diameter and with a 1 in 14 twist not the TC 1 in ten twist and you really should use a 24 inch barrel also.
I had a gunsmith that was going to do this for me and helped me find a model 92 action that he would have been willing to make it on but he got cancer and I lost him.
So now I am trying to find the parts I need to finish it myself. I have found a source for the wood and barrel, now i have to find the tube magazine, spring and other parts and to find out if all the parts for my action are there and then find the cash and build the dang thing. Will most likely be the only rifle I ever do build and I want it right.
I had a gunsmith that was going to do this for me and helped me find a model 92 action that he would have been willing to make it on but he got cancer and I lost him.
So now I am trying to find the parts I need to finish it myself. I have found a source for the wood and barrel, now i have to find the tube magazine, spring and other parts and to find out if all the parts for my action are there and then find the cash and build the dang thing. Will most likely be the only rifle I ever do build and I want it right.
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
TALK TO NATE KIOWA JONES!
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
Hobie
Nate won't touch the old model 92 actions as he fears they are weak. Funny because my last gunsmith said that the action he had me get was plenty strong enough for the 256 win mag.
So I am left building my own and it should be a real learning experience.
Nate won't touch the old model 92 actions as he fears they are weak. Funny because my last gunsmith said that the action he had me get was plenty strong enough for the 256 win mag.
So I am left building my own and it should be a real learning experience.
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
Where are you at in Az.
I have been wanting to do that for a long time.
I have been wanting to do that for a long time.
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
What about the newer imports?shdwlkr wrote:Hobie
Nate won't touch the old model 92 actions as he fears they are weak.
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
awp101
I can get nate to do one on the imports he works on but then I still have my action to put to good use and then that leads to another rifle to put together. Using the import puts the price tag at around 1600+
I can get nate to do one on the imports he works on but then I still have my action to put to good use and then that leads to another rifle to put together. Using the import puts the price tag at around 1600+
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
It sounds like a "can do" project for me, if/when I tire of my .357 Rossi Model 92.
Just pop in a .257", 1:14, barrel, chambered for the .256, and go shooting.
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Just pop in a .257", 1:14, barrel, chambered for the .256, and go shooting.
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
The .256 uses a .257" barrel? I'm not near my books to check...Pete44ru wrote:Just pop in a .257", 1:14, barrel, chambered for the .256, and go shooting.
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Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
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Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
Always did as it is a .257 diameter bullet, the only catch is it needs a slow twist barrel to work well. 1 in 14 is the correct twist.
If I find money to do mine it will be 24 inch octagon barrel, full tube magazine and a working rifle wood stock. It will then get a duracoat finish and then I will go and make some holes with it.
If I find money to do mine it will be 24 inch octagon barrel, full tube magazine and a working rifle wood stock. It will then get a duracoat finish and then I will go and make some holes with it.
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Re: 256 Win Leverguns
Ah, I just always thought it was a .256" barrel! I learn something new every day whether I want to or not...
Thanks!
Thanks!
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
Re: 256 Win Leverguns
awp101
some thought the 32-20 had a .32 something barrel it doesn't it is .312-.314
If you look at the old muzzle loaders you can see some really strange things a 36 navy uses a .375 ball a 45 can have a .457 barrel I have a 36 rifle that takes .350-.355 round ball and a 54 that uses a .530-535 ball and a 50 caliber that uses .490-495 balls.
a 280 is really .284
a 45-70 uses .456-460
a 38-55 can be .375-380
and the list goes on. drove me nuts for a few years then I learned to not take everything as gospel without doing research and even then walked away shaking my head.
38 super can be anywhere from .355-.358
350 remington mag is really .358
some thought the 32-20 had a .32 something barrel it doesn't it is .312-.314
If you look at the old muzzle loaders you can see some really strange things a 36 navy uses a .375 ball a 45 can have a .457 barrel I have a 36 rifle that takes .350-.355 round ball and a 54 that uses a .530-535 ball and a 50 caliber that uses .490-495 balls.
a 280 is really .284
a 45-70 uses .456-460
a 38-55 can be .375-380
and the list goes on. drove me nuts for a few years then I learned to not take everything as gospel without doing research and even then walked away shaking my head.
38 super can be anywhere from .355-.358
350 remington mag is really .358
In a free society the government doesn't fear its citizens
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