Here's my lousy pics of the neat Swede:
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Based on a quick range session, she's promises to be a shooter as well if I do my part.
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IF I were to do one today, I'd look at the Mosin-Nagant rifles.Lastmohecken wrote:I have though about modifying a few different milsurps over the years but they were all original and I hated to alter them, but I can see why many did in the past, as they were cheap, and could be turned into decent hunters, with out much trouble.
How cool...a Billy in a ghilly (A Ghilly-Billy?)O.S.O.K. wrote:Jason's deer pic inspired me to post one more myself:
From the leverguns summer hunt 2008 - Hondo, TX (Jacob's 4-horned ram)
Jason - those are some nice looking rifles - your Granddad obviously knew what he was doing! And being family pieces makes them even more special.
In his book "Bolt Action Rifles, 3rd Edition", Frank De Haas says that the 1917 action is the strongest ever made. That is one reason that "A Square" used them to build their magnum rifles.2ndovc wrote:Modoc,
I love that '17!
A sporterized 1917 or Brit P14 has been on my list for some time. Tough old guns! built like a tank.
Along with a Krag sporter.
jb
I don't see it that way. There are still thousands of milsup rifles in circulation. Some of them are going up in value and can't be bought on the cheap anymore but if you want say an 03 all you have to do to get one is shop on the internet for an hour or so and you've got it. Good grief!! Just take a look at Mitchell Arms and the number of 98s that they have put into circulation over the last 10-years.txpete wrote:as a milsurp collector I really hate to see the history lost with these rifles.pete
I agree; personally I'm not in favor of sporterizing guns which are still in original configuration. However, if a milsurp rifle has already been cut on, it's a perfect candidate for sporterization. My Swede was cut on, both metal and wood, when I bought it for $40 back in the 80s. Wasn't any going back. And even then I knew that elm-stocked Swede Mausers were not the norm. The vast majority of the then-$59.95 Swede Mausers were beech stocked, and elm was rare even then. JMO.txpete wrote:as a milsurp collector I really hate to see the history lost with these rifles . . .
Would you clear that up a bit for me Pete? Are you saying that people that sporterize milsup rifles are butchers and who have they been ripping off for years?yup they are butchers and been ripping people off for years
no problem.Mitchell Arms has been selling yugo M48's for years and at first claiming them as WWII mausers which they are not.then the K98K refurb'ed mausers were reblued and stamped with nazi marking and were fakes in new stocks sold at high dollar prices.the same rifle a russian capture was 1/2 the price.yes they are crooks imho.Modoc ED wrote:txpete said:
Would you clear that up a bit for me Pete? Are you saying that people that sporterize milsup rifles are butchers and who have they been ripping off for years?yup they are butchers and been ripping people off for years
You and Noah hit it on the head. I prefer the ones done back when they were a dime a dozen, not the ones dropped into a synthetic stock today (no offence AJMD!2ndovc wrote:I agree that there isn't much reason to alter an original collectable today as we loose another piece of history every day but there was a time that for many it was an only option for a well made hunting rifle. Plus there are plenty of sprters out there already that can be worked over into anything you want.
Ramline only had black and Mossy Oak or whatever, and were out of stock with the black ones anyway. The other brands I felt were ridiculously overpriced.Modoc ED wrote: AJMD429 -- That camo stock on your conversion looks good. A little different for a military conversion but nice looking none-the-less.
+1 on the finn's I have M28/30 sako sky that I like smoking the 03 boys withCosmoline wrote:Some of those are actually well done. But no hacksaw will ever touch my Tikkakoski M91 or my prized Schmidt-Rubin 1911. With GP-11 it will shoot sub MOA groups. I would not have wanted to be in the first lines of pointed headed fellows trying to invade Switzerland.
It's NEVER over with the Finns!txpete wrote:thanks cosmo...all I need is a 91/24 and I am done with the finn's.