Trapper for home defense

[Streetstar]

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Growing up, I knew where all the guns and ammo were. Guns behind the kitchen door and in the pickup, and the ammo was about 3 ft. away. I was simply taught how to act, and to leave things alone I wasn't supposed to touch. People need to teach their kids personal responsibility. Kids don't develop a lack of respect for parents and rules; they're taught that way.

I'm with ya on that one Travis, i grew up much the same way. I knew where the guns were, but i never touched 'em unless dad was there.

I dont have kids though, so i cant speak first hand for how to teach responsibility, --- but i still wouldn't leave my 6 year old nephew in my house alone if there was a loaded firearm potentially within his reach, -- even if i stressed to him not to touch it

[J Miller]

LOL,

I could just see myself doing a bayonet drill in this tiny house with a No4 Mk1* and a spike bayonet. The bad guys wouldn't be in any danger, other than to laugh themselves to death.

LOL, last time I did that I was showing off for my wife and stuck the bayonet through the glass ceiling light shade in our bedroom. Glass everywhere and me standing there with 5+ feet of battle rifle and a major stupid "oops" look on my face.

Wife made me clean it up too.

No, I'll stick to my revolving pistol as my primary HD gun.

HOWEVER, when the feces hits the rotary oscillator I'll use what ever firearm I can get my hands on to defend myself and mine. No4 Mk1* included if necessary.

Joe

[Bear 45/70]

I live in the woods with no neighbors, prime target for intruders. My .45 Colt Rossi Trapper is always in the room with me. The only other person in the house is my wife, and she'd be at my side with her Smith model 60 in her hand. Our Lab, Colter would be licking the intruders hand! I feel a Trapper is perfect for home defense. A buttstock to the head will slow most people.

If you let them get close enough that you can use the butt stock, then you know nothing at all about Self Defense or Home Defense.

....Or you were asleep, or sick, or..... screw it, just take your meds.

The only one needing meds is you. You can't seem to tell when no one is talking to you. Must be the voices you keep hearing in you little mind.

[Travis Morgan]

The only one needing meds is you. You can't seem to tell when no one is talking to you. Must be the voices you keep hearing in you little mind.

....besides you? And all these other folks? You carry your lead balls in your mouth when you hunt, huh?

[Travis Morgan]

I live in the woods with no neighbors, prime target for intruders. My .45 Colt Rossi Trapper is always in the room with me. The only other person in the house is my wife, and she'd be at my side with her Smith model 60 in her hand. Our Lab, Colter would be licking the intruders hand! I feel a Trapper is perfect for home defense. A buttstock to the head will slow most people.

If you let them get close enough that you can use the butt stock, then you know nothing at all about Self Defense or Home Defense.

....Or you were asleep, or sick, or..... screw it, just take your meds.

The only one needing meds is you. You can't seem to tell when no one is talking to you. Must be the voices you keep hearing in you little mind.

[SmokeEater2]

Easy now. Everyone take a breath and relax a bit.

[Bear 45/70]

Easy now. Everyone take a breath and relax a bit.

The only problem I have is being attacked by the moron boy morgan.

[Streetstar]

You guys are good for some drama! Hold on, let me get my popcorn !

[jeepnik]

All this talk about guns. Why when I was a kid, someone tried to break into our house on two different occasions. We figured they had to be different folks. Both were met at the sliding glass door by our 125# male, unneutered standard poodle. Suffice to say they decided that they needed to be somewhere else at the time. Could you imagine sneaking up to a house on a dark night and having the lowest, deepest growl come out of that darkness. darn I miss that dog.

[tman]

had a uncle hold a bugular at bay with my fathers' .22 springfield singleshot bolt action until police arrived about 55 years ago. home defense, survival, GREAT BEAR defence firearms are the ones you already own and are familiar with. sargent york used stone cold unaltered milspec boltaction rifles and .45 pistols. i think what we already own is overkill for what scenerious we may imagine. just my peabrain 2 cents worth

[adirondakjack]

When I was little, we lived in a duplex that was very similar to the one next door. One day the drunk next door came into our place and sat at the kitchen table reading the paper. Dad was down in the cellar loading some .44 mags at the time. It just so happened he had a tray of primed cases on the bench. When he peeked into the kitchen and confirmed his suspicion that it was the drunk in our house AGAIN (about the third time), dad loaded a primed case in his model 29, stormed into the kitchen shouting "robber", and popps a cap in the fellow's direction.
The guy let out a scream and dove for the back door. He never did it again

[adirondakjack]

One thing to mention if a levergun is to be used for HD purposes. Since the assumption is a levergun pretty much needs to be loaded (they don't load fast if yer stressed), a simple yet effective safety device that is quick enough to operate is a simple pair of police handcuffs. Slip one around the wrist (sounds creepy, but not yer wrist, the gun's wrist), latching the lever shut, and a lever with a fully loaded mag but an empty chamber is kid safe, and won't be turned on ya by a sneak thief that finds it before you find him. Snap the other cuff around an immovable (or even very large) object, and yer gun stays put as well. With ten minutes practice, handcuffs can be unlocked very quickly, even in the dark.

[jeepnik]

Adirondakjack. Had me scared there a minute, I thought you said "her" wrist. Glad you cleared that up. Seroiusly, you make a darned good point.

[jazman]

Easy now. Everyone take a breath and relax a bit.

The only problem I have is being attacked by the moron boy morgan.

You know, you are pretty new here. Perhaps you haven't read the rules on top of the page, the parts about acting respectably and politely. I don't recall other members calling fellow members names on this board, so to see you start this kind of stuff is disappointing at best.

[jeepnik]

Gentlemen, one word at this point. Duck!

[mescalero1]

Jazman is correct,
It is unseemly to see forum members acting with a lack of decorum.

[Cosmoline]

The long gun is king of the castle. The handgun's only value is for CCW or to help you GET to the long gun I'd even take my CZ 452 squirrel killer over a handgun. Hitting the target is the No. 1 goal, and I don't miss with that beauty.

There is some argument for a handgun, as it is harder to wrestle away in CQC.

I have heard this many times, but I don't buy it. With the long gun the user has many solid points of contact and really excellent leverage. A person trying to grab the barrel, assuming they somehow escape being shot down, will be pitting their hand and forearm muscles against my back, torso and leg muscles. That's a short and one-side fight. I can see something like a long Mosin being difficult to use in close quarters, but a compact levergun carbine is perfect. It's a nice stable platform that you can aim and fire accurately at 3 AM. It mounts lights nicely, and by accelerating HP rounds faster it helps ensure that they open up and DECREASES overpenetration risks. It also takes fewer shots to get the job done, again decreasing the amount of lead in the air that could hurt a bystander.

My experience thankfully does not include shooting someone, but I have had to get up in the middle of pitch black nights to shoot four legged intruders. One time it was an enraged muskrat fighting my puppy The long gun is a real comfort to have when the sky is black and trouble is brewing. The hand gun--forget it. The thing is wavering all over and I can't see the front sight with my bleary eyes. After trying to utilize it a few times for "parameter checks" I ditched it and now only use short guns for urban CCW.

[Bear 45/70]

Jazman is correct,
It is unseemly to see forum members acting with a lack of decorum.

So it is OK for morgan to attack me whenever he feels like it but it is wrong of me to slap him back. You sound like Bobo's people.

[El Chivo]

Bear you seem to have forgotten Hobie put a whole sticky just for you...


http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=16996

[Travis Morgan]

Easy now. Everyone take a breath and relax a bit.

The only problem I have is being attacked by the moron boy morgan.

You sure? I can count way more than just the one problem with you. I only pick at you when you're being a total jerk for no reason. Read your recent posts; everyone else is stupid, and you know the real answer, but won't waste tme giving it to us, because we're all so darn stupid. Why even post then?

When I gently gig you, I'm trying to point out that you're riding people awful hard for no cause, but rather than taking this the way a normal person would, you go on a rampage like a menopausal woman in divorce court!

[Travis Morgan]

Jazman is correct,
It is unseemly to see forum members acting with a lack of decorum.

So it is OK for morgan to attack me whenever he feels like it but it is wrong of me to slap him back. You sound like Bobo's people.

The people have spoken. And for once, you got the point! Hurray!

[Hobie]

Nobody is supposed to attack anybody here.