OT; Sad day in Vermont
Forum rules
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.
Please post political post in the new Politics forum.
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.
Please post political post in the new Politics forum.
-
- Levergunner 3.0
- Posts: 849
- Joined: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:08 pm
- Location: Southern New England
- Contact:
OT; Sad day in Vermont
As an avid turkey hunter it makes me sick when I read of such events. How could this happen? After all, the only legal game is a bearded turkey. You have to see the beard to correctly identify the bird.
Boy killed in hunting-related shooting
May 1, 2009
WHEELOCK — A 17-year-old hunter was shot and killed this morning after his father apparently mistook the boy for a wild turkey.
Jacob Kadamus died at the scene on South Wheelock Road around 6 a.m. Lyndon Rescue personnel, Wheelock Fire Chief Mark Brown and state Game Warden Dave Gregory responded to the shooting. Wheelock is a Caledonia County town northwest of St. Johnsbury.
Preliminary investigation revealed that father and son were hunting turkeys on private property when Kevin Kadamus discharged his shotgun at what hebelieved to be a turkey, striking Jacob. Investigation revealed that Jacob had left his original hunting area and crossed into his father’s hunting area.
Game wardens are processing the shooting scene and State Police detectives continue the investigation. The case will be reviewed by the Caledonia County State’s Attorney.
At this time, no charges have been filed. An autopsy will be conducted by the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner for final determination of manner of death.
Jacob Kadamus was a sophomore at Lyndon Institute, where he played football, was a hockey goaltender and a pitcher on the baseball team.
Spring turkey hunting season opened today and continues through May.
Boy killed in hunting-related shooting
May 1, 2009
WHEELOCK — A 17-year-old hunter was shot and killed this morning after his father apparently mistook the boy for a wild turkey.
Jacob Kadamus died at the scene on South Wheelock Road around 6 a.m. Lyndon Rescue personnel, Wheelock Fire Chief Mark Brown and state Game Warden Dave Gregory responded to the shooting. Wheelock is a Caledonia County town northwest of St. Johnsbury.
Preliminary investigation revealed that father and son were hunting turkeys on private property when Kevin Kadamus discharged his shotgun at what hebelieved to be a turkey, striking Jacob. Investigation revealed that Jacob had left his original hunting area and crossed into his father’s hunting area.
Game wardens are processing the shooting scene and State Police detectives continue the investigation. The case will be reviewed by the Caledonia County State’s Attorney.
At this time, no charges have been filed. An autopsy will be conducted by the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner for final determination of manner of death.
Jacob Kadamus was a sophomore at Lyndon Institute, where he played football, was a hockey goaltender and a pitcher on the baseball team.
Spring turkey hunting season opened today and continues through May.
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
I'm afraid that it's because there are a fair number of idiots on the planet and some of them hunt. Never, ever, underestimate the human capacity for stupidity. It only really stinks because an innocent paid for someone else's foolishness. It's only harder on the family and friends when it is someone that close to the victim.bigbore442001 wrote:..."How could this happen? After all, the only legal game is a bearded turkey. You have to see the beard to correctly identify the bird."...
- Modoc ED
- Advanced Levergunner
- Posts: 3332
- Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:17 am
- Location: Northeast CA (Alturas, CA)
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
Well, I'll tell ya one thing. Everyone now-a-days seems to think that they HAVE to go out with total camouflage -- clothes, boots, hat, face net/paint, etc. and it's just not so.
When I first started turkey hunting in the 1960s we wore jeans, regular boots/shoes, hat optional, neutral colored jacket (green plaid, brown, etc.) and no face cover. Guess what? We got our turkeys just fine and to this day I still wear just plain ole jeans, jacket (although I do have a camouflage jacket), and shoes/jacket and usually get a turkey whenever I go.
The kid killed in this case was probably in total camouflage and was hidden so well that his Dad couldn't see a human form. Stupid and tragic.
When I first started turkey hunting in the 1960s we wore jeans, regular boots/shoes, hat optional, neutral colored jacket (green plaid, brown, etc.) and no face cover. Guess what? We got our turkeys just fine and to this day I still wear just plain ole jeans, jacket (although I do have a camouflage jacket), and shoes/jacket and usually get a turkey whenever I go.
The kid killed in this case was probably in total camouflage and was hidden so well that his Dad couldn't see a human form. Stupid and tragic.
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
traggic!!
Mike Johnson,
"Only those who will risk going too far, can possibly find out how far one can go." T.S. Eliot
"Only those who will risk going too far, can possibly find out how far one can go." T.S. Eliot
-
- Levergunner 3.0
- Posts: 583
- Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:42 am
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
What ever happened to identifying your target??? Sound slike he just shot at something moving?? It is a tragic accident that could have been avoided. Dad will live with that memory forever.
- Sixgun
- Posting leader...
- Posts: 18799
- Joined: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:17 pm
- Location: S.E. Pa. Where The Finest Winchesters & Colts Reside
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
When I hear of things like this, I bypass the "stupidy" thing. My heart goes out for Dad. The sentence he is given cannot be matched by anything the law can give.
If I was in Dad's shoes, they would probably find me with a Smith & Wesson with an empty cartridge case.-------------Sixgun
If I was in Dad's shoes, they would probably find me with a Smith & Wesson with an empty cartridge case.-------------Sixgun
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
Sad day indeed, my thoughts go out to the family. Man, I hate reading things like this.
"If you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly"
-
- Advanced Levergunner
- Posts: 6747
- Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:30 am
- Location: Lower Central NYS
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
I know there are many people who do not properly ID the game they are after and pull the trigger to early.
Many of your city hunters with little hunting experience do this.They were never schooled by their dads/granddads etc. that were good
hunters what to do and what not to do.Not enough time in the field.
About 8 Years ago one of my co-workers which I thought the way
he talked was a good hunter(lived and hunted in Sugar Valley Pa)
we were sitting at his table having a cup of coffee.He said to
me my son has his own gun for deer hunting.The kid was 12 or 13
His kid in the other room must of heard this because a couple
minutes later he came down from upstairs,he walked into the
kitchen with the muzzle pointing right towards me???
I quickly pushed the muzzle sideways away with me and his dad.
I kinda read him the riot act while he was just looking down at the
gun.His dad said Junior(this is what they really called him)take that
back upstairs.He said OK as he started to turn he cycled the bolt and Honest to God a 303 British round cycled out and fell
on the floor??????? I almost fell on the floor,well after about 1 hour
of explaining/ asking HOW/HOW/HOW I left.I never went back to their house and never hunted with any of them.Mind boggling.
Many of your city hunters with little hunting experience do this.They were never schooled by their dads/granddads etc. that were good
hunters what to do and what not to do.Not enough time in the field.
About 8 Years ago one of my co-workers which I thought the way
he talked was a good hunter(lived and hunted in Sugar Valley Pa)
we were sitting at his table having a cup of coffee.He said to
me my son has his own gun for deer hunting.The kid was 12 or 13
His kid in the other room must of heard this because a couple
minutes later he came down from upstairs,he walked into the
kitchen with the muzzle pointing right towards me???
I quickly pushed the muzzle sideways away with me and his dad.
I kinda read him the riot act while he was just looking down at the
gun.His dad said Junior(this is what they really called him)take that
back upstairs.He said OK as he started to turn he cycled the bolt and Honest to God a 303 British round cycled out and fell
on the floor??????? I almost fell on the floor,well after about 1 hour
of explaining/ asking HOW/HOW/HOW I left.I never went back to their house and never hunted with any of them.Mind boggling.
Last edited by madman4570 on Sat May 02, 2009 7:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- Old Ironsights
- Posting leader...
- Posts: 15084
- Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:27 am
- Location: Waiting for the Collapse
- Contact:
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
The number of RULES violated in this story by both parties is why someone is dead... people don't die if you follow the Rules.
Don't move from your position.
Identify your target.
Get your dang gun out more than just during hunting season and practice.
Practice coordinated operations.
Practice using radio gear/headsets.
Practice aimed fire.
Practice identifying your target.
Practice beating your kid for not listening to you when you tell him to stay put...
Don't move from your position.
Identify your target.
Get your dang gun out more than just during hunting season and practice.
Practice coordinated operations.
Practice using radio gear/headsets.
Practice aimed fire.
Practice identifying your target.
Practice beating your kid for not listening to you when you tell him to stay put...
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough.
מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976
Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976
Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
-
- Levergunner 2.0
- Posts: 119
- Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:57 am
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
A lot of hunting accidents can be traced back to one thing--target identification. Positively identify your target. Do it again. Then, and only then, if it is what you want to shoot at, should you pull the trigger.
Living with the knowledge that you killed your son . . . would be penalty enough. Sixgun, you're right on. I'd probably eat a bullet, too.
Living with the knowledge that you killed your son . . . would be penalty enough. Sixgun, you're right on. I'd probably eat a bullet, too.
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
+1Sixgun wrote:When I hear of things like this, I bypass the "stupidy" thing. My heart goes out for Dad. The sentence he is given cannot be matched by anything the law can give.
If I was in Dad's shoes, they would probably find me with a Smith & Wesson with an empty cartridge case.-------------Sixgun
careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
"BECAUSE I CAN"
"BECAUSE I CAN"
- Old Ironsights
- Posting leader...
- Posts: 15084
- Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:27 am
- Location: Waiting for the Collapse
- Contact:
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
Here's the point Six... YOu wouldn't be in "dad's" shoes because:Sixgun wrote:When I hear of things like this, I bypass the "stupidy" thing. My heart goes out for Dad. The sentence he is given cannot be matched by anything the law can give.
If I was in Dad's shoes, they would probably find me with a Smith & Wesson with an empty cartridge case.-------------Sixgun
(A) You ain't stupid
and
(B) Jr. ain't stupid.
This is simply Darwin in Action.
People who take firearms/hunting seriously don't have "accidents"... "Accident" indicates a situation that was completely out of the control of the victim.
A Falling Rock crusning your car is an "Accident"/"act of God".
Driving too fast and missing a turn/slamming into someone's rear is a "collision"/"act of stupidity". Same Same applies to hunting/gun "accidents".
Pity the Mother. To me it looks like the Father & Son were "accidents" waiting to happen.
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough.
מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976
Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976
Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
-
- Advanced Levergunner
- Posts: 6747
- Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:30 am
- Location: Lower Central NYS
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
Ya, I kinda changed my post a little.felt a little quilty with cutting down the dad so much.
I cannot imagine the poor Family what they are going through and the grief they are suffering. My prayers are with that poor boy, and may he be in a better place.
I cannot imagine the poor Family what they are going through and the grief they are suffering. My prayers are with that poor boy, and may he be in a better place.
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
It happened in low light. When there's not enough light the human mind can play tricks. You can believe you see something that you really don't, and you can also certainly misidentify a target. I remember deer hunting once when I was a teenager. I was on my stand when I noticed what looked like a deer feeding on something on the ground. It was still pretty dark so I didn't shoot. I turned and looked again, and it appeared that the deer had lifted his head. With a little more light, I noticed a bird lighting on the deer! It wasn't a deer! It was a crazy looking tree stump! My mind was telling me that it was a deer, because that's what I wanted it to be. I'm glad my dad taught me to ABSOLUTELY identify your target when there's enough light to do so. Unfortunately, not many kids have dad's like that anymore. I'm blessed.
bogie
bogie
Sadly, "Political Correctness" is the most powerful religion in America, and it has ruined our society.
-
- Senior Levergunner
- Posts: 1403
- Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:12 pm
- Location: kansas
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
I'm going to bed for the night, glad I won't wake up tomorrow facing the reality that I did this horrible deed to my own son, or someone elses son. You couldn't eat, or sleep, or live, with this in your life. Totally consuming.
To hell with them fellas, buzzards gotta eat same as the worms.
Outlaw Josey Wales
Member GOA
NRA Benefactor-Life
Outlaw Josey Wales
Member GOA
NRA Benefactor-Life
-
- Senior Levergunner
- Posts: 1581
- Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:59 pm
- Contact:
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
That's no excuse. Be darned SURE you know EXACTLY what you're shooting at!Bogie35 wrote:It happened in low light. When there's not enough light the human mind can play tricks. You can believe you see something that you really don't, and you can also certainly misidentify a target.
bogie
Hunter Ed. instructor
NRA Basic pistol Inst.
NRA Personal protection inst.
NRA Range safety officer
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalm 1
NRA Basic pistol Inst.
NRA Personal protection inst.
NRA Range safety officer
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalm 1
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
Its a tragedy, I wasn't there. I cant imagine the pain. Its so easy to point fingers.
- gunslinger598
- Levergunner 2.0
- Posts: 458
- Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:31 pm
- Location: SE, Oklahoma
- Contact:
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
It only takes a fraction of a second in lack of concentration, lack of attentiveness, or just poor judgment, ya can't ever take that shot back.
Let it be a lesson to all of us, even those of us who "know" we handle firearms safely to reflect and make certain we are ever mindful not just when handling firearms, but when ever we are in an environment where they may exist.
Let it be a lesson to all of us, even those of us who "know" we handle firearms safely to reflect and make certain we are ever mindful not just when handling firearms, but when ever we are in an environment where they may exist.
AQHA Life Member
-
- Senior Levergunner
- Posts: 1194
- Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:44 am
- Location: southwest Florida
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
I spoke my prayers for the family.
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
Tragedies of stupidity do happen -- but whenever I hear of one of these I also think of murder.
Years back, we had two "hunting accidents" in about a year's time. One was two best friends deer hunting together, the other a father and son turkey hunting. Supposedly, both shooters had mistaken the victims for their quarry.
Both incidents were treated as accidents. But, within months , the "best friend" moved in with his late friend's wife. The poor son, who had garnered tremendous sympathy for the tragic accident resulting in his father's death went hog-wild in a high profile manner with his inheritance, and both made the mistake of 'fessing up to others while drinking.
Years back, we had two "hunting accidents" in about a year's time. One was two best friends deer hunting together, the other a father and son turkey hunting. Supposedly, both shooters had mistaken the victims for their quarry.
Both incidents were treated as accidents. But, within months , the "best friend" moved in with his late friend's wife. The poor son, who had garnered tremendous sympathy for the tragic accident resulting in his father's death went hog-wild in a high profile manner with his inheritance, and both made the mistake of 'fessing up to others while drinking.
-
- Senior Levergunner
- Posts: 1581
- Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:59 pm
- Contact:
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
BTW, of those here who want the father flogged, or those that are really upset by this, how many of you have taken the time to become a hunter safety instructor? I have, and it's really neat, having kids you taught years back just coming up to you out of the blue to tell you about their latest adventure. It's very rewarding. I also enjoy the Young Hunter Education Challenge(YHEC) days. Including setup and tear down, I spend about a week or less on the two events I do annually, and despite not liking other peoples' kids, I really look forward to both.
The YHEC kids tend to be more focused and competitive, but there are some there just for the experience. It's nice to get to see them develop as sportsmen, hunters, and people. There are some whose names I don't know, but I definitely recognise, and there are others that have become friends. It's kinda like seeing the same animal in your hunting spot year after year, only you don't get to make jerky out of the annoying ones!
The YHEC kids tend to be more focused and competitive, but there are some there just for the experience. It's nice to get to see them develop as sportsmen, hunters, and people. There are some whose names I don't know, but I definitely recognise, and there are others that have become friends. It's kinda like seeing the same animal in your hunting spot year after year, only you don't get to make jerky out of the annoying ones!
Hunter Ed. instructor
NRA Basic pistol Inst.
NRA Personal protection inst.
NRA Range safety officer
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalm 1
NRA Basic pistol Inst.
NRA Personal protection inst.
NRA Range safety officer
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalm 1
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
Travis Morgan wrote:That's no excuse. Be darned SURE you know EXACTLY what you're shooting at!Bogie35 wrote:It happened in low light. When there's not enough light the human mind can play tricks. You can believe you see something that you really don't, and you can also certainly misidentify a target.
bogie
Last edited by Bogie35 on Sun May 03, 2009 10:28 am, edited 2 times in total.
Sadly, "Political Correctness" is the most powerful religion in America, and it has ruined our society.
-
- Senior Levergunner
- Posts: 1581
- Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:59 pm
- Contact:
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
Bogie,
That was most assuredly NOT my intent; I'm simply sick to death of people hearing of a tradgedy, and immediately trying to "walk a mile" in the shoes of the idiot that could have avoided it. "It was dark", "he didn't know it was loaded", "I thought she was on the pill", and "meth is a helluva drug" are NOT excuses for avoidable incidents.
That was most assuredly NOT my intent; I'm simply sick to death of people hearing of a tradgedy, and immediately trying to "walk a mile" in the shoes of the idiot that could have avoided it. "It was dark", "he didn't know it was loaded", "I thought she was on the pill", and "meth is a helluva drug" are NOT excuses for avoidable incidents.
Hunter Ed. instructor
NRA Basic pistol Inst.
NRA Personal protection inst.
NRA Range safety officer
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalm 1
NRA Basic pistol Inst.
NRA Personal protection inst.
NRA Range safety officer
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalm 1
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
Everyone,
Here are the final sentences of my post that Travis left out:
"I'm glad my dad taught me to ABSOLUTELY identify your target when there's enough light to do so. Unfortunately, not many kids have dad's like that anymore. I'm blessed."
With dad's like mine, who needs "Hunting Instructors"?
bogie
Here are the final sentences of my post that Travis left out:
"I'm glad my dad taught me to ABSOLUTELY identify your target when there's enough light to do so. Unfortunately, not many kids have dad's like that anymore. I'm blessed."
With dad's like mine, who needs "Hunting Instructors"?
bogie
Sadly, "Political Correctness" is the most powerful religion in America, and it has ruined our society.
-
- Levergunner 2.0
- Posts: 146
- Joined: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:42 am
- Location: Cape Town, South Africa
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
... mostly.Old Ironsights wrote: People who take firearms/hunting seriously don't have "accidents"...
We had a case here in South Africa about two years ago. Someone shot at something (sorry, I don't remember the details), bullet bounced off a rock and killed one of the party.
Yea, you could say he shouldn't have missed, and I suspect they were blazing away a bit, but... it was by all definitions an accident.
But I agree with you on the other 99% of "accidents".
-
- Senior Levergunner
- Posts: 1581
- Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:59 pm
- Contact:
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
Umm...... bastards like me?Bogie35 wrote:Everyone,
Here are the final sentences of my post that Travis left out:
"I'm glad my dad taught me to ABSOLUTELY identify your target when there's enough light to do so. Unfortunately, not many kids have dad's like that anymore. I'm blessed."
With dad's like mine, who needs "Hunting Instructors"?
bogie
Hunter Ed. instructor
NRA Basic pistol Inst.
NRA Personal protection inst.
NRA Range safety officer
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalm 1
NRA Basic pistol Inst.
NRA Personal protection inst.
NRA Range safety officer
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalm 1
-
- Senior Levergunner
- Posts: 1020
- Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:50 pm
- Location: Vermont, USA
- Contact:
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
Happened right in my neck of the woods. In fact, the kid went to the same high school from which I graduated. There's a few like this every year. Mostly they are mistaken for game incidents. The number of people out there who seem to shoot at sound is disconcerting to say the least. I've hunted in Vermont long enough to know that the hunting here isn't that good so the sound you're hearing probably isn't what you're after.
My first attempt at an outdoors website: http://www.diyballistics.com
-
- Advanced Levergunner
- Posts: 6747
- Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:30 am
- Location: Lower Central NYS
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
Travis, you should be THANKED for all you do with the Kids
and Adults with the Safety and YHEC Programs and being a Range
Officer/Pistol Instructor/Personal Protection Instructor your busy.
I know that my Rifle Club Instructor during my High School Years
grades 7-12 he was a HUGE INSPIRATION to myself as well as
the other kids in that club.Unless someone has gone through it
there is a lot of work to make Distingrished Expert Level.
Thats when we took our rifles to school!! and now look at today
Its not only the Shooting skills you develope but the whole gun
safety aspect as well.I try to help out quite a bit,but it seemed
I was always working(really no excuse) now I have recently retired
I am working with the Kids/Adults at the club/range more.
Anyway, You are doing a very good thing and its very time consuming and I know you spend a lot of your own money doing it.
JOB WELL DONE!!!!!!!!
and Adults with the Safety and YHEC Programs and being a Range
Officer/Pistol Instructor/Personal Protection Instructor your busy.
I know that my Rifle Club Instructor during my High School Years
grades 7-12 he was a HUGE INSPIRATION to myself as well as
the other kids in that club.Unless someone has gone through it
there is a lot of work to make Distingrished Expert Level.
Thats when we took our rifles to school!! and now look at today
Its not only the Shooting skills you develope but the whole gun
safety aspect as well.I try to help out quite a bit,but it seemed
I was always working(really no excuse) now I have recently retired
I am working with the Kids/Adults at the club/range more.
Anyway, You are doing a very good thing and its very time consuming and I know you spend a lot of your own money doing it.
JOB WELL DONE!!!!!!!!
-
- Senior Levergunner
- Posts: 1581
- Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:59 pm
- Contact:
Re: OT; Sad day in Vermont
Madman,
Really. it doesn't cost me much, and it breaks up the monotony of a long shooting session. Teaching helps you learn; once you see what you're telling people to do, you can see whether you're full of it or not. I'm just being selfish, and I like shooting. BUT, if anyone wants to give me a '73 in .45 Colt, a '76 in .45-70, a Springfield "White Feather" M1, and another Sig 220 with night sights to help further my cause, I'd not be opposed! (And a Barret .50, a Dillon aero, and a shipping container of primers and ammo!) Okay, got my poop in one hand..
Really. it doesn't cost me much, and it breaks up the monotony of a long shooting session. Teaching helps you learn; once you see what you're telling people to do, you can see whether you're full of it or not. I'm just being selfish, and I like shooting. BUT, if anyone wants to give me a '73 in .45 Colt, a '76 in .45-70, a Springfield "White Feather" M1, and another Sig 220 with night sights to help further my cause, I'd not be opposed! (And a Barret .50, a Dillon aero, and a shipping container of primers and ammo!) Okay, got my poop in one hand..
Hunter Ed. instructor
NRA Basic pistol Inst.
NRA Personal protection inst.
NRA Range safety officer
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalm 1
NRA Basic pistol Inst.
NRA Personal protection inst.
NRA Range safety officer
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalm 1