Could you order a Winchester SRC with a rifle butt?

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Could you order a Winchester SRC with a rifle butt?

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I was wondering because I have a Winchester SRC made in 1921 with a rifle butt and W.D. King rear sight.
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Rangerider 7,
Yes, you could order a rifle butt but usually most carbines were not special ordered, especially during that time frame. But as your rifle was made right after the war, it was common for Winchester to slap on different kinds of wood just to get the rifle out and make some money as times were hard then. Below is a picture of my 25-35 SRC also made in 1921 with a rifle buttstock that I know to be original to the gun.

Look real close at the wood to metal fit in the tang area. Is it a good tight fit? Does the wood condition match the forearm? Does the finish on the wood match the condition of the blue? Little tell-tale signs like this can usually tell if the wood is original or not.----------Sixgun

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According to what I've read in a reference book I don't have with me at the moment, there was a carbine produced with a a rifle stock. It was at least informally called an "Eastern Carbine". It did not have a saddle ring, however.
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Short answer: Yes. Madis has a photo or two in his opus The Winchester Book.
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20cows wrote:According to what I've read in a reference book I don't have with me at the moment, there was a carbine produced with a a rifle stock. It was at least informally called an "Eastern Carbine". It did not have a saddle ring, however.
"Eastern carbines" were just like regular carbines, except without the saddlering. They had carbine buttplates.
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That would be the best of both worlds!!! :D
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Post by 3855 »

Here's a couple of pictures of the gun referenced above. These hybrids were sort of a factory compromise between a rifle and a carbine. They came with a rifle stock and a rifle style rear sight that was dovetailed into the barrel one inch farther forward than normal for that time period. This was done so that the longer rifle type sight would not cover the caliber designation and proof mark on the top of the barrel. Since this sight would also cover some of the barrel markings, the markings were moved to an different location ahead of the forend.
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These guns often go unnoticed and are passed off as piece that has been altered from factory original simply by a rifle buttstock being swapped on. But, with the above noted subtle changes all seen in concert, they point to an unusual and rare original factory rifle.

Further documentation for these rifles and be found in both Bob Rennebergs excellent 94 book and in the Winchester Book by George Madis.
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I have a couple of 1894 carbines made in late 20's to late30's and they have the shotgun steel buttplate, no saddlering, with Factory Original boxes and the label stating 20" SPORTING CARBINE.!!!!! Im sorry but at present time I am unable to give pictures. Have a new computor on the way. :) :)
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variations on old Winchesters....never say never. A Cody letter plus a lot of research are needed to validate some of the combos out there... but anyone who handles old Winchesters sees something new from time to time.

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