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Anyone have any idea what variation of Winchester 1894 this is? The sights are throwing me off with the adjustable rear aperture sight in place and what looks to be the rear sight removed. Whats left where the rear sight typically goes is a Marbles base. The barre is 20" long.
I purchased the rifle from a local estate along with a number of others and am looking to sell it to help offset the cost of the rest of the collection somewhat. The concern I have is that I don't want to be selling it if there is a chance that it's a rare variation factory Winchester. Is there any way to tell for absolutely sure? If it turns out to be a regular 94 with the additional Lyman sight, what would be a fair price to ask in this condition? Let's hear it! Thanks!
To my non collector eyes, it looks like a typical 1930 vintage carbine with a Lyman 21 receiver sight installed.
The rear barrel sight is a Marbles dovetail blank. The front sight is typical of the vintage.
The only thing I see that I'm curious about is the thing in the top of the stock. A compass maybe?
Personally, if I had the money I'd love to own that carbine.
Joe
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All of the Winchester barrels had dovetails cut for the rear sights. When a receiver sight was requested the slot was usually filled by a blank.
What will you want for that little gun?
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Very Nice Combo...! I like the lines that someone scribed on the side for the different ranges, just a bit optimistic.
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Actually that's a Lyman #38 which is more scarce than the #21. The #21 had a "pound on it friction windage", while the #38 had a screw adjustment. All of the long Lyman Sights came scribed with those lines for yardage. A letter from the Cody museum can confirm the order on that rifle. I've never seen a rifle with a Lyman #21 or #38 without a dovetail for the rear sight, meaning that even when ordered most of them still came with the dovetail and filler.
As Kansas Ed said, Its a Lyman #38. The difference between a 21 and a 38 is that the 38 is windage adjustable. Its really almost impossible to tell if the sight came from the factory as letters for a gun of that vintage do not exist. Like others have said, if there is no dovetail in the barrel, its a guarantee that it was factory installed. When you lift the sight up to its highest elevation, there will be a letter stamped on the inside of the main part. It should read "DA" which is the standard code for a 1894 in all calibers except 32-40 and 38-55.
Your rifle is a late "eastern carbine" which means is the same as a saddle ring carbine but without the ring. I have eight or nine hundred dollars if you want to sell it------assuming the mechanics of the rifle are excellent, has good wood to metal fit, and the bore is bright.---------------Sixgun
I might add that yours is a Winchester Sporting Carbine. I have two of these in your serial number range complete with factory boxes which state they are a sporting carbine. I used to have one of these and the barrel wasnt dovetailed. However you could order one from Winchester in any configuration. If that is a compass in the buttstock it will deduct 20 to 30% from value in this area.
I see the rear sight dovetail, nothing special there. The #38 sight could have been installed at the factory, or by a gunsmith later. The sights are about $300.00-400.00 at gun shows by themselves. The gun with the sight could go for $700-1000.00 in my estimation, even with the compass..
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